NaturalBuns wrote:I hope not Len looked slow last year
That's because he was injured (and/or recovering from injury).
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NaturalBuns wrote:I hope not Len looked slow last year
BurningHeart wrote:I don't care about the process so much as the attitude and inaccuracy involved, how it reflects his personality and mindset, how they try to paint the Phoenix Suns (much like when people try to demonize "evil" corporations or some ****) and how similar it is to many other people that I can't stand, that I feel are helping to ruin sports and other aspects of our society. These types of things get dismissed and dismissed and dismissed until one day one realizes that a wholly inaccurate narrative has taken hold and one that is completely unbreakable no matter what the facts truly are. Another example involving the Suns? "SSOL teams under D'Antoni never ever ever played defense." Reasonable, intelligent Suns fans are STILL trying to break down that one.
Sorry if he makes those traits clear as day, and sorry if I don't particularly enjoy having these types on my team. I will not "let it go." If you don't like it, you can put me on ignore. I can and will take examples that reflect why I feel the way I feel to show what I mean.
My opinions or feelings are not baseless and I am sick and tired of the notion that sports fans don't or shouldn't *actually* feel things or that any negative feelings toward a player or team are automatically to be dismissed as without merit. That's where that whole "hating on" garbage came from and it's really dumb.
Let his ass actually prove something before getting his Cleveland butt buddy to chime in on his behalf acting like he and their precious little clique had been wronged somehow.
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Read a tweet about Bledsoe that made me do some digging. Apparently his Junior year of high school his family was so poor they lived out of their car. Sort of explains why Bledsoe held out for more money during negotiations.
SideSwipe wrote:We still need to get a third big guy to help round out the team. Preferably a big guy who can block and rebound and hopefully can hit free throws. Here are some targets that I think may be achievable if we can't get a guy like Okafor or O'neal. With Ennis, Randolph and maybe Goodwin as trade bait, we might be able to get one of the following.
O'quinn
Gobert
Withey
Aldrich
Biyombo
Henson
Each of those guys are relatively high on the list of PER36 shot blockers, and most are decent rebounders as well. I would prefer to get one that also hits freethrows above a 60% rate to help assure that they can stay on the floor when needed, but the rebounding and shot-blocking are more key, in my mind, since we also have Plumlee and Len.
BurningHeart wrote:
My opinions or feelings are not baseless and I am sick and tired of the notion that sports fans don't or shouldn't *actually* feel things or that any negative feelings toward a player or team are automatically to be dismissed as without merit. That's where that whole "hating on" garbage came from and it's really dumb.
Scutt wrote:BurningHeart wrote:
My opinions or feelings are not baseless and I am sick and tired of the notion that sports fans don't or shouldn't *actually* feel things or that any negative feelings toward a player or team are automatically to be dismissed as without merit. That's where that whole "hating on" garbage came from and it's really dumb.
Well aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You need to take a look in the mirror bro. You seem to have no problem automatically dismissing other posters negative opinions when they are not aligned with your own. Here is a post that you directed at me a few months back because I voiced my concern about having Goran Dragic as the Suns best player:
BurningHeart wrote
"This team went from 20 wins to 48 wins in a single year largely because of Goran Dragic and you still have people whining about "franchise players" and "tanking" to get some loser in a draft and still think someone can go from worst to first. Newsflash, guy: This IS our rebuild. The team took massive strides last year and told you and cancerous douchebags LIKE you who would rather foster a losing culture to shove it up your ass. Go back to playing NBA2K because your preferred way doesn't work in real life.
Guess what, your "sainted" 2014 #1 pick that everyone jizzed over for the last two years is getting dealt for a superstar NBA player that nobody came close to expecting would be this good.
Good grief. Another one to the ignore list. I'd prefer it if none of you guys quoted this guy ever again. Thanks."
You can sure dish it out BurningHeart, why don't you lean to take it too?
BurningHeart wrote:I see nothing wrong with criticizing those who would rather have a losing culture than a winning one.
*shrug*
Thanks for quoting that guy though. Wouldn't have seen his post if you didn't.
Scutt wrote:BurningHeart wrote:
My opinions or feelings are not baseless and I am sick and tired of the notion that sports fans don't or shouldn't *actually* feel things or that any negative feelings toward a player or team are automatically to be dismissed as without merit. That's where that whole "hating on" garbage came from and it's really dumb.
Well aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You need to take a look in the mirror bro. You seem to have no problem automatically dismissing other posters negative opinions when they are not aligned with your own. Here is a post that you directed at me a few months back because I voiced my concern about having Goran Dragic as the Suns best player:
BurningHeart wrote
"This team went from 20 wins to 48 wins in a single year largely because of Goran Dragic and you still have people whining about "franchise players" and "tanking" to get some loser in a draft and still think someone can go from worst to first. Newsflash, guy: This IS our rebuild. The team took massive strides last year and told you and cancerous douchebags LIKE you who would rather foster a losing culture to shove it up your ass. Go back to playing NBA2K because your preferred way doesn't work in real life.
Guess what, your "sainted" 2014 #1 pick that everyone jizzed over for the last two years is getting dealt for a superstar NBA player that nobody came close to expecting would be this good.
Good grief. Another one to the ignore list. I'd prefer it if none of you guys quoted this guy ever again. Thanks."
You can sure dish it out BurningHeart, why don't you lean to take it too?
Sunsdeuce wrote:
Far as I'm concerned, I don't want burning heart to change. The last thing we need here is a bunch of drones.
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Sunsdeuce wrote:I'm still not satisfied with this roster. Small ball, which we will be running with does not work. Teams can sneak in the playoffs with this style but they are not real threats during the playoffs. I think we might sneak into the playoffs were not close to winning a championship (sorry I'm not churching up this team).
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Sunsdeuce wrote:BurningHeart wrote:I see nothing wrong with criticizing those who would rather have a losing culture than a winning one.
*shrug*
Thanks for quoting that guy though. Wouldn't have seen his post if you didn't.
It's part of being a fan. I wonder about those that have no complaints or play the blind eye when things aren't going well. I would hope each one of us comment on things they don't quite like or wanted changed. This forum would f$&&ing boring if everyone thought everything is perfect,
I'm in the line of thinking, its equal opportunity among everyone within the suns organization to get praise and to be criticized. As great as Ryan Mcd has been, there is things he has whiffed on. He hasn't exactly nailed the two drafts he has been involved in. As well, he hasn't developed a balanced roster either.
I think tucker is this team's biggest weak link. Many people don't agree but I'm not going to fall in line with other peoples line of thinking on this. It's not going to happen.
I'm still not satisfied with this roster. Small ball, which we will be running with does not work. Teams can sneak in the playoffs with this style but they are not real threats during the playoffs. I think we might sneak into the playoffs were not close to winning a championship (sorry I'm not churching up this team). Yes we are going to be fun and exciting but not quite championship material until we improve our front line!
Far as I'm concerned, I don't want burning heart to change. The last thing we need here is a bunch of drones.
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SideSwipe wrote:We still need to get a third big guy to help round out the team. Preferably a big guy who can block and rebound and hopefully can hit free throws. Here are some targets that I think may be achievable if we can't get a guy like Okafor or O'neal. With Ennis, Randolph and maybe Goodwin as trade bait, we might be able to get one of the following.
O'quinn
Gobert
Withey
Aldrich
Biyombo
Henson
Each of those guys are relatively high on the list of PER36 shot blockers, and most are decent rebounders as well. I would prefer to get one that also hits freethrows above a 60% rate to help assure that they can stay on the floor when needed, but the rebounding and shot-blocking are more key, in my mind, since we also have Plumlee and Len.