OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[BeesWax]

I have no idea what Zeller has to do with anything. I think its ridiculous how Clifford continuously states that MKG's main trait is hustle and energy, when he offers so much more. If anything its Clifford giving a backhanded compliment to his own player. My original post probably did come off a little odd, but it wasn't intended that way.

Edit: And so what if I think Zeller is ready to start? What does it have to do with MKG or this topic in general? Im confused.

It sounded like you were saying all MKG was was hustle and energy. It read likey you thought that yet thought Zeller should be a starter when he isn't even as good at those aspects of the game much less defense and others. I was questioning why you thought that way about MKG yet differently about the much worse player. If you meant it another way then fine but it read for me at least like your comment which would have contradicted your earlier comment in a different thread.

Um, ok.

Yep

[LofJ]

Hopefully MKG develops and his head coach can start saying he has another exceptional trait other than "hustle and energy". There are a lot of guys in the league who have that, and they weren't the 2nd pick in the draft.

Cliff has successfully put MKG in a box and subliminally made MKG the weak link on the team by stating that he wants us to be able to have shooters all over the floor so we need to be able to have ball movement to hit the open shooter. I cant remember the last time a good player has had his lack of outside shooting scrutinized so heavilly as Mkg. This guy can do everything but shoot the ball consistently and thats what we're still made to focus on? His lack of outside shooting and his hustle and energy!

Mkg hasnt even been named a starter yet but Marvin Williams is? I dont like what the news im hearing so far. I dont wanna hear about Gary Neal being so important, or about our need for a stretch 4, we have a very good SF who was the 2nd overall pick and he's nowhere near reaching his potential cause of Cliff. Guaranteed, even if MKG starts, he most likely wont finish, and he'll get about the same minutes as last year or less unless he's hitting clutch jumpers at a consistent rate.

The only other guy on the team that Clifford praises more is Jefferson. I highly doubt he's holding him back or trying to limit him, at least purposely.

[yosemiteben]

Yeah, if you are arguing that Clifford doesn't praise MKG enough then I think you aren't paying attention.

Plus after seeing Faried almost single handedly carry the FIBA team this summer in multiple games, you would think that being labeled an energy guy would lose some of its stigma.

[UNCNYC]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-xal1PViPk[/youtube]

Another MKG shooting vid.

[Hornet Mania]

Awesome videos, thanks for keeping us up to date guys. Can't wait to see what MKG has in store offensively this season, if he can get his jumper to even league average level it will lead to a massive leap in his productivity and value.

That last video was awesome. Loved seeing MKG's hitch-free jumper in the background and Noah Vonleh casually banking in midrange shots like layups in the foreground.

[ball teacher]

Yeah, if you are arguing that Clifford doesn't praise MKG enough then I think you aren't paying attention.

Plus after seeing Faried almost single handedly carry the FIBA team this summer in multiple games, you would think that being labeled an energy guy would lose some of its stigma.

Not praising MKG enough has never been a argument I've made. The "praising" that MKG gets where he's labeled as just a energy and hustle guy is my beef. What I was saying was Cliff was low key putting MKG in a box by labeling MKG as a energy and hustle guy. By Cliff stresing how MKG isnt a good perimeter shooter, and by not actually trying to play to his strengths is a very subtle way of making MKG expendable. I've been saying this since the beginning of last season, there's no difference now from then, Cliff has never spoken ill of MKG, he just doesnt really hold MKG as a vital piece to our team, this should be very clear to all.

[yosemiteben]

Yeah, if you are arguing that Clifford doesn't praise MKG enough then I think you aren't paying attention.

Plus after seeing Faried almost single handedly carry the FIBA team this summer in multiple games, you would think that being labeled an energy guy would lose some of its stigma.

Not praising MKG enough has never been a argument I've made. The "praising" that MKG gets where he's labeled as just a energy and hustle guy is my beef. What I was saying was Cliff was low key putting MKG in a box by labeling MKG as a energy and hustle guy. By Cliff stresing how MKG isnt a good perimeter shooter, and by not actually trying to play to his strengths is a very subtle way of making MKG expendable. I've been saying this since the beginning of last season, there's no difference now from then, Cliff has never spoken ill of MKG, he just doesnt really hold MKG as a vital piece to our team, this should be very clear to all.

Clifford constantly talks about how the team is better when MKG is on the floor and talks about his excellent defense. He's not going to pretend like MKG is an asset offensively because up to this point he hasn't been.

[LamarMatic7]

MKG dropping 30 against Canada for USA U17 team, courtesy of one YouTube's greats, Gremlin

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0vEqDzWutg[/youtube]

cameos of Wiggins, Beal, Drummond, Bennett, Wroten, etc.

[Hilltop]

Is MKG projected to start this year? Just trying to decide if Henderson is worth a late round pick in my fantasy league.

[catch20two]

MKG's game is tailormade for a uptempo pace. Hopefully his refined jumper can help him become effective at any pace. Especially when it slow down for Alfense.

[Liver_Pooty]

Is MKG projected to start this year? Just trying to decide if Henderson is worth a late round pick in my fantasy league.

Him and Henderson are battling it out for the last spot. Its a toss up.

[Hilltop]

Is MKG projected to start this year? Just trying to decide if Henderson is worth a late round pick in my fantasy league.

Him and Henderson are battling it out for the last spot. Its a toss up.

Yeah, that's what I've heard as well. This is the 178th pick so I would not mind taking a flyer on Hendo as long as I know he will be playing 25MPG or so even off the bench. Where I would steer clear is if MKG getting the starting spot means Hendo goes straight to the dog house.

[fatlever]

hendo will get minutes regardless. 25mpg seems about right.

[fatlever]

96 minutes available on the wings - likely to be split 4 ways most nights between lance, mkg, hendo and neal.

lets say lance gets 35, mkg/hendo 50 combined, neal gets 11 (plus whatever minutes he can steal from brian roberts. there is a small chance neal takes some of the backup pg minutes when paired with lance as the ball handler.)

hairston gets the garbage minutes and situational minutes when we need a 3pt spark.

[catch20two]

And it continues...I still can't wait until Hendo is traded, couldn't cut it as a SG because he has no range or handles so let's try him at SF even tho he's undersized. Just the thought of Hobe being the reason why MKG won't get 30 plus minutes a game aggravates me.

[TheKingofSting]

We can't trade our only Duke representative.

[LofJ]

We can't trade our only Duke representative.

A Duke for Duke trade then. Henderson for Dunleavy.

[Radu_Hornets]

And it continues...I still can't wait until Hendo is traded, couldn't cut it as a SG because he has no range or handles so let's try him at SF even tho he's undersized. Just the thought of Hobe being the reason why MKG won't get 30 plus minutes a game aggravates me.

I can't wait to see How good Hendo will be as a 6th man.

[JDR720]

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[yosemiteben]

I don't know dude, that elbow is still too far over. I know he's a work in progress but his elbow looks like it's at the other side of his chin.

It seems like the biggest improvement is his earlier release point.