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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#21 » by Freefloater » Sun Oct 5, 2014 8:38 am

olive_triangurl wrote:
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I dont see them winning rings , mostly bc of harden


I think Harden is perhaps better than Jordan at his age...fear the Beard...dont forget Harden's intangibles...hell attract that 3rd star to Houston soon....and he already recruited Dwight...stole it from LA.....fear The Beard...hes smart he knows well what hes doing....


The funny thing is, Jordan was more known for intangibles than stats.
And yet, Jordan's stats were monstrous at Harden's age:

Jordan age 24: 35.0ppg 5.9apg 5.5rpg 3.2spg 1.6bpg .535fg 3.1tpg
Harden age 24: 25.4ppg 6.1apg 4.7rpg 1.6spg 0.4bpg .456fg 3.6tpg



not so fast...not so fast boy....you cant just pull an arbitrary stats from your ass and out of CONTEXT and think you actually proved something...I chalenge you:

1.do you want to take a couple of hours of reflection on your own and come with a short list of reasons of why these stats dont prove my claim wrong

or

2 you want me to teach you?

btw
and how suddenly ppg and % s become important and not playoffs performances or titles??

cause whenever hardens greatness is brought up hes suddenly taken down with 'but he did nothing in playoffs?'
Fact is that momentum in games is a real thing, while not tangible itself, you can tangibly see the effect it has when teams are on runs and how it can dramatically effect the outcome of games when you can generate any momentum.
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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#22 » by MagicFan32 » Sun Oct 5, 2014 9:40 am

dwight still talks to much, but not surprised WOJ got this interview, afterall he was fegans lapdog during the whole dwightmare, i guess this is one of the perks you get for being a mouthpiece.

dwight will love houston, until he thinks he sees a better opportunity, rockets fans should not buy into any of his hyperbole
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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#23 » by bakafool » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:18 pm

Freefloater wrote:
olive_triangurl wrote:
Freefloater wrote:
I think Harden is perhaps better than Jordan at his age...fear the Beard...dont forget Harden's intangibles...hell attract that 3rd star to Houston soon....and he already recruited Dwight...stole it from LA.....fear The Beard...hes smart he knows well what hes doing....


The funny thing is, Jordan was more known for intangibles than stats.
And yet, Jordan's stats were monstrous at Harden's age:

Jordan age 24: 35.0ppg 5.9apg 5.5rpg 3.2spg 1.6bpg .535fg 3.1tpg
Harden age 24: 25.4ppg 6.1apg 4.7rpg 1.6spg 0.4bpg .456fg 3.6tpg



not so fast...not so fast boy....you cant just pull an arbitrary stats from your ass and out of CONTEXT and think you actually proved something...I chalenge you:

1.do you want to take a couple of hours of reflection on your own and come with a short list of reasons of why these stats dont prove my claim wrong

or

2 you want me to teach you?

btw
and how suddenly ppg and % s become important and not playoffs performances or titles??

cause whenever hardens greatness is brought up hes suddenly taken down with 'but he did nothing in playoffs?'

Harden has had the benefit of playing his entire career in a league where defensive rules have been intentionally modified to favor perimeter players. He's had it easy. Harden has a much much better team then MJ at that age. Don't even put Harden in the same sentence. He's an ant compared to the GOAT. He should learn how to actually put effort on playing defense. And his constant acting to get fouls makes him look even more ridiculous.
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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#24 » by thelead » Sun Oct 5, 2014 1:41 pm

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Post#25 » by druggas » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:27 pm

Howard ran from the pressure of the Lakers. The only thing thicker he has now is his wallet.
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Post#26 » by Freefloater » Sun Oct 5, 2014 2:45 pm

bakafool wrote:
Freefloater wrote:
olive_triangurl wrote:
The funny thing is, Jordan was more known for intangibles than stats.
And yet, Jordan's stats were monstrous at Harden's age:

Jordan age 24: 35.0ppg 5.9apg 5.5rpg 3.2spg 1.6bpg .535fg 3.1tpg
Harden age 24: 25.4ppg 6.1apg 4.7rpg 1.6spg 0.4bpg .456fg 3.6tpg



not so fast...not so fast boy....you cant just pull an arbitrary stats from your ass and out of CONTEXT and think you actually proved something...I chalenge you:

1.do you want to take a couple of hours of reflection on your own and come with a short list of reasons of why these stats dont prove my claim wrong

or

2 you want me to teach you?

btw
and how suddenly ppg and % s become important and not playoffs performances or titles??

cause whenever hardens greatness is brought up hes suddenly taken down with 'but he did nothing in playoffs?'

Harden has had the benefit of playing his entire career in a league where defensive rules have been intentionally modified to favor perimeter players. He's had it easy. Harden has a much much better team then MJ at that age. Don't even put Harden in the same sentence. He's an ant compared to the GOAT. He should learn how to actually put effort on playing defense. And his constant acting to get fouls makes him look even more ridiculous.



again, you just arbitrarily picked up something and then proceded to use it as a proof for something you decided in advance, if there was any decision at all included other than accepting the most popular opinion...
try thinking for a change
Fact is that momentum in games is a real thing, while not tangible itself, you can tangibly see the effect it has when teams are on runs and how it can dramatically effect the outcome of games when you can generate any momentum.
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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#27 » by Freefloater » Sun Oct 5, 2014 4:23 pm

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Freefloater wrote:
thelead wrote:
You are either a troll or an idiot... or 12 years old :lol:



how about some arguments or thinking? or you only capable of apriori judgements? :nod:
for your information 12 year old can have a lot of great opinions...on the other hand many geniuses were considred idiots and suffered insults from mediocre minds who stick to popular opinions and preconcieved notions...


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVb5x8WIwH8[/youtube]



how much of these highlights of Jordan were from when he was 24 and younger??
Fact is that momentum in games is a real thing, while not tangible itself, you can tangibly see the effect it has when teams are on runs and how it can dramatically effect the outcome of games when you can generate any momentum.
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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#28 » by thelead » Sun Oct 5, 2014 4:39 pm

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thelead wrote:
Freefloater wrote:

how about some arguments or thinking? or you only capable of apriori judgements? :nod:
for your information 12 year old can have a lot of great opinions...on the other hand many geniuses were considred idiots and suffered insults from mediocre minds who stick to popular opinions and preconcieved notions...


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVb5x8WIwH8[/youtube]



how much of these highlights of Jordan were from when he was 24 and younger??


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Post#29 » by BallerTalk » Sun Oct 5, 2014 5:02 pm

druggas wrote:Howard ran from the pressure of the Lakers. The only thing thicker he has now is his wallet.


Wow, are Lakers fans still trying to convince themselves of this concoction?
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Post#30 » by druggas » Sun Oct 5, 2014 5:22 pm

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druggas wrote:Howard ran from the pressure of the Lakers. The only thing thicker he has now is his wallet.


Wow, are Lakers fans still trying to convince themselves of this concoction?
Howard left a sinking ship that was being run by an egotist whose only qualification for his position was nepotism.

Howard the Coward. Kind of rolls off your tongue.
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Post#31 » by LAKESHOW » Sun Oct 5, 2014 5:41 pm

Appearantly it did not. Dwight still needs to refer to his "LAKER DAYS" to keep himself relevant. When in actuality, he should be happy with the Houston situation that he is in.
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Post#32 » by Pickled Prunes » Sun Oct 5, 2014 5:44 pm

BallerTalk wrote:
druggas wrote:Howard ran from the pressure of the Lakers. The only thing thicker he has now is his wallet.


Wow, are Lakers fans still trying to convince themselves of this concoction?
Howard left a sinking ship that was being run by an egotist whose only qualification for his position was nepotism.

Agreed, but I would still like Howard to shut his mouth and prove it on the court.
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Post#33 » by EddieJonesFan » Sun Oct 5, 2014 6:05 pm

"I was always taught never to show pain, never to show weakness, never to show fear. Always put a smile on your face."

So you were taught to repress your feelings? That sounds like a great plan in developing such an emotionally mature person like yourself.
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Post#34 » by Freefloater » Sun Oct 5, 2014 6:43 pm

thelead wrote:
Freefloater wrote:
thelead wrote:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVb5x8WIwH8[/youtube]



how much of these highlights of Jordan were from when he was 24 and younger??


You are insufferable.


so no arguments on topic, only derailing judgements being thrown around?

this reminds me of someones saying that thinking is the hardest job there is...
so 95% of people dont think at all
3% think they think
and only 2% think(which i btw think is totally overstated)

thinking for a change would make you a lot of good
i know many people say MJ is the best but this is totally different topic from
no one is better than MJ until 24...
and its easy to say it but to really really prove it is totally another thing...
Fact is that momentum in games is a real thing, while not tangible itself, you can tangibly see the effect it has when teams are on runs and how it can dramatically effect the outcome of games when you can generate any momentum.
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Post#35 » by nikster » Sun Oct 5, 2014 7:11 pm

bakafool wrote:
Freefloater wrote:
olive_triangurl wrote:
The funny thing is, Jordan was more known for intangibles than stats.
And yet, Jordan's stats were monstrous at Harden's age:

Jordan age 24: 35.0ppg 5.9apg 5.5rpg 3.2spg 1.6bpg .535fg 3.1tpg
Harden age 24: 25.4ppg 6.1apg 4.7rpg 1.6spg 0.4bpg .456fg 3.6tpg



not so fast...not so fast boy....you cant just pull an arbitrary stats from your ass and out of CONTEXT and think you actually proved something...I chalenge you:

1.do you want to take a couple of hours of reflection on your own and come with a short list of reasons of why these stats dont prove my claim wrong

or

2 you want me to teach you?

btw
and how suddenly ppg and % s become important and not playoffs performances or titles??

cause whenever hardens greatness is brought up hes suddenly taken down with 'but he did nothing in playoffs?'

Harden has had the benefit of playing his entire career in a league where defensive rules have been intentionally modified to favor perimeter players. He's had it easy. Harden has a much much better team then MJ at that age. Don't even put Harden in the same sentence. He's an ant compared to the GOAT. He should learn how to actually put effort on playing defense. And his constant acting to get fouls makes him look even more ridiculous.

Please, defenses today are way better than those of the past.
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Post#36 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Oct 5, 2014 7:21 pm

nikster wrote:Please, defenses today are way better than those of the past.
Wrong, maybe the players are better because they're bigger and stronger. But today's defense is designed to protect the perimeter players. Jordan played in an era when they had just started to change some of the rules, but the defense in terms of what they could do were more brutal by far compared to today.
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Post#37 » by BallerTalk » Sun Oct 5, 2014 8:19 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:Appearantly it did not. Dwight still needs to refer to his "LAKER DAYS" to keep himself relevant.

He was asked a question in an interview.

LAKESHOW wrote:When in actuality, he should be happy with the Houston situation that he is in.

Perhaps you should have read the article. Then you would know that it says Dwight is more than happy "with the Houston situation".

Pickled Prunes wrote:Agreed, but I would still like Howard to shut his mouth and prove it on the court.

He's a star in the league so interviews come with that.
I find no fault in anything he said here. In fact, most of it was already known anyway. That's what makes the bitter reactions from some Lakers fans here so laughable.
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Post#38 » by Pickled Prunes » Sun Oct 5, 2014 10:17 pm

BallerTalk wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:Appearantly it did not. Dwight still needs to refer to his "LAKER DAYS" to keep himself relevant.

He was asked a question in an interview.

LAKESHOW wrote:When in actuality, he should be happy with the Houston situation that he is in.

Perhaps you should have read the article. Then you would know that it says Dwight is more than happy "with the Houston situation".

Pickled Prunes wrote:Agreed, but I would still like Howard to shut his mouth and prove it on the court.

He's a star in the league so interviews come with that.
I find no fault in anything he said here. In fact, most of it was already known anyway. That's what makes the bitter reactions from some Lakers fans here so laughable.

OK, but I'm not a Laker fan and I'm not bitter. I have been tired of listening to Howard since his last two years In Orlando. (I'm not a Magic fan either.) There are ways to answer questions honestly without coming across as a whiner. Like all the cards have been stacked against you and you never catch a break. Stars do it every day. "Both teams played hard."
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Post#39 » by Pickled Prunes » Sun Oct 5, 2014 11:05 pm

nikster wrote:
bakafool wrote:
Freefloater wrote:

not so fast...not so fast boy....you cant just pull an arbitrary stats from your ass and out of CONTEXT and think you actually proved something...I chalenge you:

1.do you want to take a couple of hours of reflection on your own and come with a short list of reasons of why these stats dont prove my claim wrong

or

2 you want me to teach you?

btw
and how suddenly ppg and % s become important and not playoffs performances or titles??

cause whenever hardens greatness is brought up hes suddenly taken down with 'but he did nothing in playoffs?'

Harden has had the benefit of playing his entire career in a league where defensive rules have been intentionally modified to favor perimeter players. He's had it easy. Harden has a much much better team then MJ at that age. Don't even put Harden in the same sentence. He's an ant compared to the GOAT. He should learn how to actually put effort on playing defense. And his constant acting to get fouls makes him look even more ridiculous.

Please, defenses today are way better than those of the past.

OK guys, you realize that you guys are talking about two different things, right?

There is a natural progression in sports. If you sent the 2014 Bucks back in time to 1964 they would dominate the league. Now common things like the cross-over and ally-oop would absolutely shock them. Offensive and defensive schemes like nothing they'd ever seen. But that doesn't mean the Bucks are a good team.

Jordan absolutely dominated the league in his day. He did things to people that they had never seen. But if you brought him into the future he wouldn't dominate in the same way because everyone in the league grew up watching him and studying his game; it isn't new. Iverson broke countless ankles with his cross-over but now everyone has a cross-over. Since everyone has one, everyone defends it better, too.

So yes, if you brought Jordan into the future and had him play in todays NBA he would be just another good player but that is just because everybody spent so much time watching film and trying to mimic him. He changed the game in countless ways and dominated it in his time like no other.

Until Harden changes how the game is played, and until he is unquestionably the most feared player in his time, it is hard to justify putting him in the same category as Jordan.
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Re: Dwight: Lakers' Experience Made Me Develop Thicker Skin 

Post#40 » by crazymaso » Sun Oct 5, 2014 11:19 pm

10/10 Freefloater.

Some people are incredibly gullible into trolling these days.

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