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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#81 » by parso15 » Wed Oct 1, 2014 7:46 pm

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texasholdem wrote:
Sasaki wrote:What the hell do you want Dwight to say? "We lost Parsons and Lin, we're ****?"

Actually, wait, that's probably what you do want him to say.


The proper thing for him to say in this situation is "we will miss them a lot but we will adapt. I trust in our front office to get us the help that we need to compete for a championship" something like that.

The proper comment would be "Its Dwight Howard, nothing he does will ever be correct" If Dwight said what you wrote people, would still bash him for being boring for being pc.

OP also twisting words, the question was just about Parsons & apparently Dwight is excited about Ariza as we all should be if he is the defensive player he was last year.
Howard, 28, said the addition of Ariza was "big" for the Rockets.

"He'll go through a wall for you," Howard said of Ariza, who was his teammate on the Orlando Magic. "Just to have soldiers on your team like that is great. We have that one-two punch with me and James. We're filling out our roster with guys who are willing to go through that wall and doing whatever it takes to win."


Not that serious, Dwight putting the team on those broad shoulders making Harden accountable and leading the team. Don't worry Dwight got this.


Are you kidding?

Sure their is a certain hi erarchy in the team but to call the other players as "just" soldiers who make the sacrifices and position himself like a general who gets the glory or ges the punches... Let's say it openly the guy is not a leader... who would through a wall for someone with such an attitude? You don't have to be humble but just don't put your foot in your mouth for once... Sorry :banghead:
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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#82 » by spaceballer » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:44 pm

MKL wrote:Also, HOU has not re-signed ANYBODY. Every player with exception of Harden's contract extension is on their first offer from Morey.

Morey has either traded or let go every free agent under his current management.


I believe Francisco Garcia just re-signed, although admittedly to a short and low money 1yr deal
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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#83 » by inquisitive » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:49 pm

they will be going after KD in 2 seasons...just hope harden doesn't have a fallout with KD between now and then...if not, you can book KD coming here.
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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#84 » by spaceballer » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:10 am

inquisitive wrote:they will be going after KD in 2 seasons...just hope harden doesn't have a fallout with KD between now and then...if not, you can book KD coming here.


Maybe, maybe not. Not a good idea to project that far on a slim hope, a lot can happen in 2 yrs. As a matter of fact, a lot can happen in a few hours, as everyone saw with Bosh getting the Miami hard sell.

Remember Aldridge and Love? Two players who were supposedly disgruntled with their teams failing to make the playoffs, and being prime PF upgrade targets for the Rockets? At one point in the past, they were speculated to be Morey's big targets this season. Everyone expected Morey to either trade for them (with the assumption of a predatory trade because both could likely leave their teams) or sign them as free agents with cap space after the Lin/Asik contracts expired at the end of this season.

Guess what, now they're both off the table, and it didn't even take 2 yrs. The Blazers added Robin Lopez to free up Aldridge to play PF instead of C and the Blazers not only made the playoffs but beat the Rockets. Kevin Love is now paired with Lebron and will probably re-sign with the Cavs.

So, a year ago, everyone was sure that Morey had a good chance of getting one of the two. Now, they're both off the table.

So I wouldn't count any chickens before they hatch with Durant.

A LOT can change in 2 yrs, and it doesn't even require a falling out of Harden/Durant. Here are some random examples:

1) The cap could rise and open up enough space for OKC to grab a major impact free agent with a big contract, and thus convince Durant to give it another try.

2) Or he might get swayed by a supermax 5yr contract like Bosh did, especially with his bird rights and the increase in cap from the new TV money.

3) Harden or Howard could suffer a major career altering injury that makes Houston much less attractive to Durant as a place to win rings. No one wants injuries, but you never know in this sport.

4) OKC might get lucky and win it all, convincing him to stay.

5) There might be a more attractive situation to win elsewhere that sways him more than his friendship with Harden. Teams can rise or fall in 2 yrs, new stars can breakout, new team compositions can form up with trades or free agent signings (just see what a difference a single off-season made for Cleveland).

6) If OKC is convince he'll leave, they might trade him to a better situation for some return, and he'll stay there instead of coming to Houston, such as just happened with Kevin Love.

So, after seeing how the Rockets' projected pursuit and odds with Kevin Love and LMA changed within a year, or how the Bosh (and to an extent Parsons) fiasco turned out, the uncertainty with the new TV money, and everything else that can happen in 2 yrs, it's really not a good idea to make a firm bet on Durant going to Houston. Howard's contract will be up soon, so not a good idea to daydream about and keep promising tomorrow when it's a limited win now window given his age and contract expiration.

Morey needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat and make hay while the sun shines during this win now window, or it will close before you know it, with Howard gone or aging into decline or the ever present threat of a random career altering injury to Howard or, even worse, Harden. Rockets fans should know the ephemeral nature of such a window battling against time and freak injuries from the Yao experience and how suddenly it can close without warning.
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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#85 » by inquisitive » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:11 pm

spaceballer wrote:
inquisitive wrote:they will be going after KD in 2 seasons...just hope harden doesn't have a fallout with KD between now and then...if not, you can book KD coming here.


Maybe, maybe not. Not a good idea to project that far on a slim hope, a lot can happen in 2 yrs. As a matter of fact, a lot can happen in a few hours, as everyone saw with Bosh getting the Miami hard sell.

Remember Aldridge and Love? Two players who were supposedly disgruntled with their teams failing to make the playoffs, and being prime PF upgrade targets for the Rockets? At one point in the past, they were speculated to be Morey's big targets this season. Everyone expected Morey to either trade for them (with the assumption of a predatory trade because both could likely leave their teams) or sign them as free agents with cap space after the Lin/Asik contracts expired at the end of this season.

Guess what, now they're both off the table, and it didn't even take 2 yrs. The Blazers added Robin Lopez to free up Aldridge to play PF instead of C and the Blazers not only made the playoffs but beat the Rockets. Kevin Love is now paired with Lebron and will probably re-sign with the Cavs.

So, a year ago, everyone was sure that Morey had a good chance of getting one of the two. Now, they're both off the table.

So I wouldn't count any chickens before they hatch with Durant.

A LOT can change in 2 yrs, and it doesn't even require a falling out of Harden/Durant. Here are some random examples:

1) The cap could rise and open up enough space for OKC to grab a major impact free agent with a big contract, and thus convince Durant to give it another try.

2) Or he might get swayed by a supermax 5yr contract like Bosh did, especially with his bird rights and the increase in cap from the new TV money.

3) Harden or Howard could suffer a major career altering injury that makes Houston much less attractive to Durant as a place to win rings. No one wants injuries, but you never know in this sport.

4) OKC might get lucky and win it all, convincing him to stay.

5) There might be a more attractive situation to win elsewhere that sways him more than his friendship with Harden. Teams can rise or fall in 2 yrs, new stars can breakout, new team compositions can form up with trades or free agent signings (just see what a difference a single off-season made for Cleveland).

6) If OKC is convince he'll leave, they might trade him to a better situation for some return, and he'll stay there instead of coming to Houston, such as just happened with Kevin Love.

So, after seeing how the Rockets' projected pursuit and odds with Kevin Love and LMA changed within a year, or how the Bosh (and to an extent Parsons) fiasco turned out, the uncertainty with the new TV money, and everything else that can happen in 2 yrs, it's really not a good idea to make a firm bet on Durant going to Houston. Howard's contract will be up soon, so not a good idea to daydream about and keep promising tomorrow when it's a limited win now window given his age and contract expiration.

Morey needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat and make hay while the sun shines during this win now window, or it will close before you know it, with Howard gone or aging into decline or the ever present threat of a random career altering injury to Howard or, even worse, Harden. Rockets fans should know the ephemeral nature of such a window battling against time and freak injuries from the Yao experience and how suddenly it can close without warning.


Yes, alot can happen between now and then...i'm just saying if they were healthy , no internal strife, OKC not winning title along with harden still having a very good relationship with KD, we can expect KD to sign here....i believe morey knows about making sure rockets have capspace for max....
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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#86 » by Nebula1 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:17 pm

I imagine KD will be looking at staying with OKC ($$$), Washington (home), and Houston (Texas, Harden) and probably in that order. Wouldn't be shocked to see the Lakers in play as well.

I've long lusted for a Harden, Durant, Howard trio.

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Post#87 » by inquisitive » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:29 pm

Nebula1 wrote:I imagine KD will be looking at staying with OKC ($$$), Washington (home), and Houston (Texas, Harden) and probably in that order. Wouldn't be shocked to see the Lakers in play as well.

I've long lusted for a Harden, Durant, Howard trio.

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I believe the most important factor is whether OKC comes close to winning a title or not...if they make it the Finals and lose...he'll likely stay, but if they flame out in the 1st or 2nd round for the next 2 yrs...he is gone. OKC gets the extra year which allows them to give him more $, but he can opt out with us after a few years to sign another max deal, so i think OKC's $$ might not be such an advantage. Washington and the Lakers will need to have another star on that team for him to go there.
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Re: Howard - "Loss of players won't affect us at all" 

Post#88 » by realfung » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:14 pm

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baki wrote:How much is this is true and why does he say "we" instead of "I"?

:roll:


Who the **** cares?

Maybe you should post on the Lakers board, if you're looking for people who feel similarly.


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