is KCP a Bust?

[BadMofoPimp]

Even if KCP turns into AA,I will be more than estatic,I would rather have an AA type of player than a harden type of player any day of the week and twice on sundays.

That's good, because KCP's usage will never come close to Harden's unless Jennings and Smith take a serious back seat on offense (which we know won't happen in the regular season).


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Harden still tore it up behind Westbrook and Durant.

[Blkbrd671]

KCP will be a better player than any guy drafted in the late lottery with the exception of MCW. I was one of the few people high on KCP in college and I'm still high on him. He is only a sophomore, lets give him some time to get it together- the potential is clearly there.

just had to get your boy MCW a shout out. Until he develops a jump shot, he's going to be a liability offensively. MCW does have a chance to be special, but 26% from 3 is not going to cut it. So just to be clear for this upcoming season you have MCW> KCP?

Rajon Rondo and Jason Kidd say hello. Yes, I have Carter Williams ahead of KCP, MCW is a very rare talent. I love KCP as well but MCW is more impactful and more versatile- both have all star potential.

Rondo hasn't done sh* since he hasn't been surrounded by allstars, and Kidd is one of the great pg's off all time, so any comparison is a reach. i do see MCW as the next rondo, he can be effective is surrounded by allstar players that make up for his lack of floor spacing and maybe his rebounding and steals can contribute enough. Again he's going to be limited as long as he can't shoot the ball

[Blkbrd671]

Sixers are looking to trade MCW, meanwhile we are beginning to view KCP as our franchise SG. i think we definitely made the right choice

[ImHeisenberg]

Sixers are looking to trade MCW, meanwhile we are beginning to view KCP as our franchise SG. i think we definitely made the right choice

I don't see how either of those things correlate.

Also, nobody from the Pistons organization has anointed KCP has anything more than another player on the roster.

The 76ers aren't taking a traditional approach to team building, and really can't be looked at as any kind of litmus test.

[Blkbrd671]

Sixers are looking to trade MCW, meanwhile we are beginning to view KCP as our franchise SG. i think we definitely made the right choice

I don't see how either of those things correlate.

i am merely pointing out that KCP is beginning to be viewed as a corner piece for the pistons while MCW is looking to be traded for a cornerstone piece.

]Also, nobody from the Pistons organization has anointed KCP has anything more than another player on the roster.

If you actually read my post, i said beginning to view KCP as a franchise SG, and if continues this tear into the regular season, why the f* wouldn't we?

The 76ers aren't taking a traditional approach to team building, and really can't be looked at as any kind of litmus test.

I honestly believe if MCW had jumpshot, he would definitely not be on the block. Reportedly they are trying to trade MCW while his values high, but no ones offering what Sixers want. Again the point is, if your drafting a player who you think is going to be a superstar, whether your tanking or not, you don't trade him away when his value can still go up. If Sixers really think he can be a superstar, why would they sell Low?

Now before we go into all these little tangent debates, again i am just point out, 1 person is being seen as a trading piece to get a franchise player, where as the other is being seen as a cornerstone piece.

[need4detroit]

Sixers are looking to trade MCW, meanwhile we are beginning to view KCP as our franchise SG. i think we definitely made the right choice

I don't see how either of those things correlate.

Also, nobody from the Pistons organization has anointed KCP has anything more than another player on the roster.

The 76ers aren't taking a traditional approach to team building, and really can't be looked at as any kind of litmus test.

Stan Van Gundy stated he was a player he wanted to build the team around. Considering hes the coach/GM, I'd say hes anything but just another player on the roster.

[DetroitSho]

Sixers are looking to trade MCW, meanwhile we are beginning to view KCP as our franchise SG. i think we definitely made the right choice

I don't see how either of those things correlate.

Also, nobody from the Pistons organization has anointed KCP has anything more than another player on the roster.

The 76ers aren't taking a traditional approach to team building, and really can't be looked at as any kind of litmus test.

Stan Van Gundy stated he was a player he wanted to build the team around. Considering hes the coach/GM, I'd say hes anything but just another player on the roster.

Damn, he'sactually said that? He must think highly of him.

[Hotmayo]

KCP gonna be an all star fa sho

[whitehops]

someone should just change the title of this thread already lol...


I'm really looking forward to the pistons-lakers game on December 2nd. it's gonna be fun to see KCP play D on kobe, especially since kobe is in super-chucker mode this season.

KCP is probably going to be left on an island against kobe, especially now that guys like nick young are back from injury. it'll be a good test (and lesson) for him.

[Dcebucks11]

dat form, dat stroke, smooth

[MrBigShot]

Right now I look at 3 of the 12 games we've played so far as models for the type of player KCP can be in the future. He had 19, 20, and 20 against NY/Milwaukee/Washington. He was a combined 23/39 in those games (59% shooting) and shot the three ball really well.

Two of those games were wins, and one of them was a very narrow loss (4pts). Coincidence? I think not. We're a lot better when KCP plays well. But he's also had 8 games where he's shot less than 40%. I'm inclined to think those 3 games we're not just cases of hot shooting, I really do think KCP can shoot, his issue is consistency. Great shooters are consistent shooters. He should be in the gym in the off season working on catch and shoot and pull ups off the dribble until they become automatic for him.

[whitehops]

Right now I look at 3 of the 12 games we've played so far as models for the type of player KCP can be in the future. He had 19, 20, and 20 against NY/Milwaukee/Washington. He was a combined 23/39 in those games (59% shooting) and shot the three ball really well.

Two of those games were wins, and one of them was a very narrow loss (4pts). Coincidence? I think not. We're a lot better when KCP plays well. But he's also had 8 games where he's shot less than 40%. I'm inclined to think those 3 games we're not just cases of hot shooting, I really do think KCP can shoot, his issue is consistency. Great shooters are consistent shooters. He should be in the gym in the off season working on catch and shoot and pull ups off the dribble until they become automatic for him.

I've noticed that he almost rushes a lot of the shots he puts up. obviously SVG has given him the green light to shoot but a lot of the times when he's shooting it's off of a screen or an instance where he has to turn, square up and release.

when he's had time to shoot he really looks good, it may just be a matter of the offense functioning better overall, which should help him get better looks.

[Blkbrd671]

Right now I look at 3 of the 12 games we've played so far as models for the type of player KCP can be in the future. He had 19, 20, and 20 against NY/Milwaukee/Washington. He was a combined 23/39 in those games (59% shooting) and shot the three ball really well.

Two of those games were wins, and one of them was a very narrow loss (4pts). Coincidence? I think not. We're a lot better when KCP plays well. But he's also had 8 games where he's shot less than 40%. I'm inclined to think those 3 games we're not just cases of hot shooting, I really do think KCP can shoot, his issue is consistency. Great shooters are consistent shooters. He should be in the gym in the off season working on catch and shoot and pull ups off the dribble until they become automatic for him.

I've noticed that he almost rushes a lot of the shots he puts up. obviously SVG has given him the green light to shoot but a lot of the times when he's shooting it's off of a screen or an instance where he has to turn, square up and release.

when he's had time to shoot he really looks good, it may just be a matter of the offense functioning better overall, which should help him get better looks.

i really think he's recovering from his injury physically but more so mentally. Prior to the injury KCP's feet were more set, now he looks like he drifts quite a bit on his shot. i think its a matter of him adjusting, but i dod agree with your assessment

[mus123]

I see him as a jimmy butler type of player who can give you about 16-17 a game and play excellent perimeter D. He's on his way to becoming a lethal 2 way player. Wanna see him hit those gimme jumpers more consistently.

[Laimbeer]

There are things you get better at with experience in the league, but shooting generally not as much as others. You either can or you can't. His shooting was questioned coming in and he's done nothing to ease those concerns. In fact, he seems to be cementing that rep.

He does have athleticism and good intangibles. He'll be a useful player, but probably a rotation guy. Not someone to build around.

[aad]

Hes a 2nd year palyer look how long it took demar derozon and klay thompson it took them 3 to four years to breakout give KCP some time hes putting up 12 ppg with good defense and he still not shooting as well as he can

[Uncle Mxy]

There are things you get better at with experience in the league, but shooting generally not as much as others.

Tell that to Ason Kidd.

[epheisey]

There are things you get better at with experience in the league, but shooting generally not as much as others.

Tell that to Ason Kidd.

Yea I don't know where you're getting the idea that shooting is something that "you either have or you don't".

Richard Hamilton developed a 3pt shot later in his career. Jason Kidd was an awful shooter early on. There are plenty of players that significantly improved that aspect of their game. And KCP has a good foundation to build off of. He's got great form, it's just a matter of putting in the time, and IMO developing some endurance and strength in his legs.


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