Acy and the Knicks

[nykfan42]

Acy is going to be our version of reggie evans

Except Acy can actually play basketball without being a clown.

[BugginOut]

If Acy starts, that means we traded Jeremy Tyler for our starting PF...... let that sink in.

PMFJ

[NBA Fan 1234]

Acy is going to be our version of reggie evans

Except Acy can actually play basketball without being a clown.

And he's actually a good defender, unlike Evans who isn't (even though he is a good rebounder).

Acy starting sounds good to me.

[rajajackal]

i know it's rewarding bad behavior, and we shouldn't have to do it, but as long as amar'e is under contract with the new york knicks, we should do what's best for both parties. giving him his start impacts his rhythm like night and day. it also keeps him and bargnani off the floor at the same time, as well as keeping him supported by the team's best players while he is playing

The Knicks need to win games, not please Amare. Also there is no way both players can be in the rotation for this team to be successful. If it comes down to it, give one of these dudes playing time and bench the other one. We could use the extra offense

you misunderstand me. i believe that starting him helps the team win. a guy like jason smith or quincy acy helps your bench a lot more than someone like stoudemire does. he does more harm there than he helps, but he's going to see the floor in SOME capacity so long as he's healthy. so, i think we ought to use him in the way he is best used according to his history with our team post-injury.

bargnani is 'apathetic', so let him explode off the bench for the 15 minutes he should be playing. a second unit of bargnani at the 5, jason, acy, JR, and pablo/larkin is a lot scarier to me than the mess we've seen roll out during preseason. chemistry has been off. i like what acy brings, but i think he'd bring that same thing to the bench, which it could use, as opposed to amar'e's sort of poisonous attitude in that role. shump provides that same quality to the starting lineup, and STAT can't really misbehave with melo and calderon on the floor. then summer comes around, bargnani and amar'e are both off the books, and we can look for a real, helpful triangle-big to pair with melo at the forward or center position

[2010]

I vaguely remember some of the reactions when the Acy and Jason Smith trades were made by PBNJ. Those two unsung moves were only appreciated by a minority of posters around here. Seems like dudes have come around on both moves already.

[mpharris36]

I vaguely remember some of the reactions when the Acy and Jason Smith trades were made by PBNJ. Those two unsung moves were only appreciated by a minority of posters around here. Seems like dudes have come around on both moves already.

hopefully he does this to LeBron at some point...

[MaseInYourFace]

Ppl keep saying we have no offense in the starting lineup with acy.... Calderon can produce, shumpert can produce on an inconsistent basis. If we keep it even defensively with that lineup well open up big leads on the nights where shumpert and calderon are on target.

We'll see. That is hopefully the case. If they are truly playing good defense they'll be in every game though.

[2010]

I vaguely remember some of the reactions when the Acy and Jason Smith trades were made by PBNJ. Those two unsung moves were only appreciated by a minority of posters around here. Seems like dudes have come around on both moves already.

hopefully he does this to LeBron at some point...

If he does that to LBJ he might end up getting the worst of it

[malik959]

Teaching old dogs new tricks! I don't place a lot of judgement on vets when it comes to preseason because they don't usually give full effort on games that don't count, but A mare does worry me a little because he looks lost. For years Stat has defended the triangle so u would think that he knows a little about it and would come along more smoothly. One would think that he would be able to grab one of the younger cats and teach them, not the other way around. You can't blame knees or fitness, it's more of knowledge than anything else.

I'll give him until Jan 1st, for the triangle is tough, but both the Lakers and the bulls figured things out around that time frame and began winning. I do love his work ethics and his willing to get back to all star for, but I don't want to see laziness on D or ball hogging when you have open teammates.

[mpharris36]

I vaguely remember some of the reactions when the Acy and Jason Smith trades were made by PBNJ. Those two unsung moves were only appreciated by a minority of posters around here. Seems like dudes have come around on both moves already.

hopefully he does this to LeBron at some point...

If he does that to LBJ he might end up getting the worst of it

you mean like this....

[malik959]

i know it's rewarding bad behavior, and we shouldn't have to do it, but as long as amar'e is under contract with the new york knicks, we should do what's best for both parties. giving him his start impacts his rhythm like night and day. it also keeps him and bargnani off the floor at the same time, as well as keeping him supported by the team's best players while he is playing

This is exactly how you create bad blood in the locker room. You have to throw out a hook when a player isn't playing the way a team needs to be, he'll that's what the d league is for! A mare and JR should be on short leashes if they don't play within the system. We have plenty of players to fill the void in his position.

[The Lamma]

i can see acy as a oakley or mason type.

I'm a Acy fan, but let the kid earn his stripes before we start mentioning him in the same breath with Oak and Mason.

Mase had incredible handles for his size and some moves down low, not happening. What Acy should do is take a page out of Oakley's book and keep working on the J like he has been. Oak clearly improved on that after entering the league, and became pretty deadly IF you left him open. If he can get to that point, it will help both the Knicks and Acy. Get it to where you can't double off him because he'll stick the midrange J if you do.

[nyk97]

hopefully he does this to LeBron at some point...

If he does that to LBJ he might end up getting the worst of it

you mean like this....

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlWj_4_OdZk[/youtube]

[wakkahman]

Ppl keep saying we have no offense in the starting lineup with acy.... Calderon can produce, shumpert can produce on an inconsistent basis. If we keep it even defensively with that lineup well open up big leads on the nights where shumpert and calderon are on target.

We'll see. That is hopefully the case. If they are truly playing good defense they'll be in every game though.

Yea in my eyes Defense = Consistency. If we just stack a bunch of offense in the starting lineup only 1 person can shoot at once and unless everyone is super efficient offensively it gives you no benefit. Multiple good defensive players however get used all at the same time every time down the court.

[Dr. Detfink]

Starting Acy is an intriguing solution but I don't think it's a definitive answer but more or less a temporary stop gap.

[GIMME_DATT]

Knicks starting Acy would make them a poor man version of the Bulls pre Gasol, back when they had Deng. Melo like Rose would have to do heavy lifting scoring the basketball

[stuporman]

Acy isn't completely useless on offense and has a decent jumper so if he brings defense, intangibles and toughness to the front court and starting unit then he might work out starting.

[will]

Very happy for Acy. That dude has earned his spot. Time to execute and keep that spot. Lord knows Amare and Bargnani are hot trash.

[The Lamma]

Ppl keep saying we have no offense in the starting lineup with acy.... Calderon can produce, shumpert can produce on an inconsistent basis. If we keep it even defensively with that lineup well open up big leads on the nights where shumpert and calderon are on target.

We'll see. That is hopefully the case. If they are truly playing good defense they'll be in every game though.

Yea in my eyes Defense = Consistency. If we just stack a bunch of offense in the starting lineup only 1 person can shoot at once and unless everyone is super efficient offensively it gives you no benefit. Multiple good defensive players however get used all at the same time every time down the court.

The way our team is constructed it's clear that down the road we need to acquire more two-way players instead of having to choose "this guy because he plays D over that guy because he can score." Thank God we have PJax callin the shots now.

[mpharris36]

someone should do the blake griffin RKO, that would be hilarious