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OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1401 » by HornetJail » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:47 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Opponents having to respect his outside shot is/will be huge for his driving ability which is already good.

Even a consistent 15-footer would be devastating for opposing defenses.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1402 » by TheKingofSting » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:50 am

If you don't double Al we have capable players, if you double Al we have Lance, Kemba, MKG, and even Marvin to make the D pay. Not to mention singling Al will get buckets dropped on you fast. :)
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1403 » by fatlever » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:14 pm

MKG among tops at drawing fouls per touches and shots

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2231 ... witter.com

good news for those that want MKG more involved in the offense. good news if MKG can improve his FT%. That being said, you have to figure that last year the scouting report on MKG said two things 1) give him jumpers 2) if he drives to the rim, foul him because he is a bad FT shooter (at least last year he was).

if MKG starts hitting 80% from the line, defenders will be more cautious about sending him to the line.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1404 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:45 pm

The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1405 » by catch20two » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:26 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.

I'm just happy to finally see him play aggressively on offense that I've overlooked that he's only been shooting 35%. That percentage would be unacceptable going forward into the regular season but at least he's been productive by scoring double figures and rebounding like a mad man. No poms poms here, I wanna see him shoot a better clip. The only players that have impressed me so far thru the preseason is Kemba and Neal. Big Al is just coasting as a old vet. Everyone else has been average to disappointing.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1406 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:30 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.

I'm just happy to finally see him play aggressively on offense that I've overlooked that he's only been shooting 35%. That percentage would be unacceptable going forward into the regular season but at least he's been productive by scoring double figures and rebounding like a mad man. No poms poms here, I wanna see him shoot a better clip. The only players that have impressed me so far thru the preseason is Kemba and Neal. Big Al is just coasting as a old vet. Everyone else has been average to disappointing.


Fair enough. I'm actually a bit concerned how Lance will adjust playing across from MKG as opposed to Paul George. He's going to get swarmed and he might force bad shots when his teammates dump the ball to him for a bail out or try to get too fancy because the rest of the perimeter guys can't mount any pressure. It all falls on him and like Kemba it may dilute his production despite the obvious talent. I really can't stand the lack of shooting. I'd rather start Neal at SG and Lance at SF.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1407 » by catch20two » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:43 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.

I'm just happy to finally see him play aggressively on offense that I've overlooked that he's only been shooting 35%. That percentage would be unacceptable going forward into the regular season but at least he's been productive by scoring double figures and rebounding like a mad man. No poms poms here, I wanna see him shoot a better clip. The only players that have impressed me so far thru the preseason is Kemba and Neal. Big Al is just coasting as a old vet. Everyone else has been average to disappointing.


Fair enough. I'm actually a bit concerned how Lance will adjust playing across from MKG as opposed to Paul George. He's going to get swarmed and he might force bad shots when his teammates dump the ball to him for a bail out or try to get too fancy because the rest of the perimeter guys can't mount any pressure. It all falls on him and like Kemba it may dilute his production despite the obvious talent. I really can't stand the lack of shooting. I'd rather start Neal at SG and Lance at SF.

Lance need to fall back and just fulfill the role Hendo had as the 3rd scorer opportunist and create when he can. This team don't play better when MKG is off the floor and we have 2 full seasons of evidence to back that up. Neal will be great in his 6th man role. We don't need too many players that need the ball in our starting lineup.

If Lance get swarmed then that's a good thing because that'll open up things for Big Al and Kemba that they didn't have last year because nobody ever swarmed or even thought about doubling or shading towards Hendo.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1408 » by Hornet Mania » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:25 am

MasterIchiro wrote:The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.


He's drawing a lot more fouls than in seasons past, which I think is another catalyst for the optimism around here. I also think the Detroit game should essentially be thrown out the window. Kemba didn't play, the entire offense suffered, and the early start time threw everyone off. MKG was 2-8 in that game and forcing things in stagnant offensive sets. If you take the Detroit game out of the equation his percentages nose up towards respectability.

You're right though, we probably should pump the breaks a bit. I think a lot of us are just giddy that it even looks possible MKG could finally conquer that awful shooting problem.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1409 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:24 am

MasterIchiro wrote:The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.


Um MKG's problem was that his jumper looked like he had crooked arms and he released just before he hit his feet. He has looked light years better. Pardon our excitement.

I swear it's like you folks don't want to be excited about this season.
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Post#1410 » by catch20two » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:41 am

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:The concern about MKG is his offense. A good number of fans here have been raving about MKG in game threads so I checked his stats.

He's shooting 35.5% in preseason. While it's no indicator of his future performance in the regular season over the course of a full year, it gives me some pause (and perhaps a sense of wonderment) why folks here, knowing full well the issue with him is that shot and his offense, continue to hoist pom poms in the air, wavin em like ya just don't care.


Um MKG's problem was that his jumper looked like he had crooked arms and he released just before he hit his feet. He has looked light years better. Pardon our excitement.

I swear it's like you folks don't want to be excited about this season.

I'm excited about the season but I had to put a halt on my lofty expectations of 50 wins when I found out that Messy Marv will be our starting PF, Hendo might start over MKG, Zeller might be our backup C instead of Biz, and almost our entire team outside of a select few players will shoot 30% in the preseason. My expectations have turn into suspicions for all of the above reasons.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1411 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:18 am

If there has ever been a season where some optimism would be warranted, it's this one. It's like you guys just prefer being pessimistic.
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Post#1412 » by TheKingofSting » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:19 am

Just because Marv starts to begin the season doesn't necessarily mean he will make it as a starter the whole season if someone plays better than him and takes the starting gig.
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Post#1413 » by catch20two » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:20 am

yosemiteben wrote:If there has ever been a season where some optimism would be warranted, it's this one. It's like you guys just prefer being pessimistic.

Things done changed. Last year we were just happy to make the playoffs and most people thought it was a longshot. Now expectations are for us to do better than last year. If we don't fair better than last season after getting a lottery pick and having lots of cap space to get better then this season will be somewhat disappointing. We won 43 games last year in a mildly injury plagued season that had Big Al on a gimpy foot, Kemba out for several games, and MKG out for a month, without mentioning that even Hendo missed some time.

If we only win 43-45 games this year I'm gonna be "like yay playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed but WTF? are we a treadmill now?". I hope you're catching my drift.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1414 » by LamarMatic7 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:31 pm

Is Michael Kidd-Gilchrist’s New-and-Improved Jump Shot for Real?
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/micha ... jump-shot/

read it. no really new info in that article.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1415 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:45 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:Is Michael Kidd-Gilchrist’s New-and-Improved Jump Shot for Real?
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/micha ... jump-shot/

read it. no really new info in that article.


The Bruce Bowen tidbits were interesting for comparison's sake to remain optimistic that MKG can not only become a comfortable midrange jump shooter but also extend his range beyond the arc in a few years
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Post#1416 » by Amateur Wannabe » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:26 pm

His improved form is really promising! Great work by mr Price.
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Post#1417 » by fatlever » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:20 pm

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Post#1418 » by freakon0mics » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:10 am

Man....he is improving and getting better right before our eyes. Mark Price has done wonders with that shot. You can tell, he just seems more confident out there with it. It has open things up for him. To think, he just turned 21 last month too. Sky is the limit for him.
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Post#1419 » by TheKingofSting » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:00 am

I don't know whether to be upset he took so many shots or had the courage to keep taking them.
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Post#1420 » by catch20two » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:33 am

TheKingofSting wrote:I don't know whether to be upset he took so many shots or had the courage to keep taking them.

Be proud that he had the courage to take the shots. It'll take his game to the next level sooner than later.
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