Acy and the Knicks

[Capn'O]

If memory serves me, Blackman hurt his back almost immediately after the deal. May have been in his first training camp. He was never the same again. That Knicks-Rockets series was the kind of defensive struggle that Stern all but outlawed - and unless you were at the top of your game, you had no business being on the floor for. For instance, Greg Anthony was beyond useless in that series, due to the extraordinary defensive pressure being brought by the Rockets.

Your memory is, I'm sure, better than mine on this as I was not yet paying attention to elements outside the games themselves. My question was never why Ro wasn't used so much in that game but why he really didn't get a run throughout the postseason. I'm not sure bringing a specialist in for a single game situation was a good look.

[NoLayupRule]

this is interesting

clearly if Acy is to start Fisher is not playing favorites based on contract or fame or even potential but on actual team play


We all know Acy brings the energy and defense and rebounding we need but both Amare and Bargs have the upside that, if it actually panned out, brings us tot he next level


Bargs hasn't played enough to see if he can or will work. But istn that Bargs in a nutshell right there?
Amare hasn't shown he gets the triangle or his new role or that he's even as good as Jason Smith right now.

I can't help but to think however that Amare and Bargs will have to play and both of them together I simply can't see working on either end of the floor

With Dally in the starting lineup I think either Bargs or Amare will be offset slightly, or perhaps Acy and one of them at center, so the answer may have to be to spread the wealth or pain depending

Amare at center and Acy at PF?

Im less than thrilled with either Amare or Bargs but Im trying to be realistic about upside and the long term path. Hell, both have to be given playing time if there is any hope for an upgrade via trade

[Deeeez Knicks]

this is interesting

clearly if Acy is to start Fisher is not playing favorites based on contract or fame or even potential but on actual team play


We all know Acy brings the energy and defense and rebounding we need but both Amare and Bargs have the upside that, if it actually panned out, brings us tot he next level


Bargs hasn't played enough to see if he can or will work. But istn that Bargs in a nutshell right there?
Amare hasn't shown he gets the triangle or his new role or that he's even as good as Jason Smith right now.

I can't help but to think however that Amare and Bargs will have to play and both of them together I simply can't see working on either end of the floor

With Dally in the starting lineup I think either Bargs or Amare will be offset slightly, or perhaps Acy and one of them at center, so the answer may have to be to spread the wealth or pain depending

Amare at center and Acy at PF?

Im less than thrilled with either Amare or Bargs but Im trying to be realistic about upside and the long term path. Hell, both have to be given playing time if there is any hope for an upgrade via trade

I think the answer has to be that at least one of Amare/Bargs has to sit.

Its foolish to play either just for a possible trade. There's really no chance we get something decent and our best option will probably just to let them expire.

Fish has to play the best lineups and that probably means at least one of those guys has to sit. They both just really don't fit

[Capn'O]

One of them may even be released...

The Knicks ate the contracts of Mo Taylor and Jalen Rose back in the day. Nearly 20 million, iirc. If they can't use 'em they could lose 'em. But, if it does happen it won't happen for a few weeks into the season, at least.

[NoLayupRule]

Fish has to play the best lineups and that probably means at least one of those guys has to sit. They both just really don't fit

well it may be true that both don't fit but one could

each has the same flaws but both have enough talent to work in the triangle well

sadly again I think Bargs is better than amare, or more versatile at least, at this point

can this team afford both of them playing? Probably not.

Lesser players but better chemistry in Acy, Smith, Aldridge and Dally.

Its a hard problem for Fish. If he sits both or either and we are losing the pressure will be very very high

[Deeeez Knicks]

Fish has to play the best lineups and that probably means at least one of those guys has to sit. They both just really don't fit

well it may be true that both don't fit but one could

each has the same flaws but both have enough talent to work in the triangle well

sadly again I think Bargs is better than amare, or more versatile at least, at this point

can this team afford both of them playing? Probably not.

Lesser players but better chemistry in Acy, Smith, Aldridge and Dally.

Its a hard problem for Fish. If he sits both or either and we are losing the pressure will be very very high

Yeah, I think one could possibly fit and find a role off the bench. Fish really does have a tough job to figure this out.

[Johnny Hoops]

Store/soak Stat in a wine barrel in NAPA until the trade deadline.

[NOOB77]

If you are trying to build something for the future here I don't see how or why you need to play Bargs or Amare. They both will not be here next year. The players behind them actually give the team a better chance to win. So I am not sure besides there salary what coach would even play them. If you throw contracts out Amare would probably be cut this preseason.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like if Acy is going to start at the 4, I'd like Jason Smith at the 5 in the starting lineup with him, as a more all around reliable offensive option than Dalembert.

Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy
Jason Smith

Priggs
JR
THJr
Dalembert
Stat or Bargs...I guess

[K_ick_God]

If you are trying to build something for the future here I don't see how or why you need to play Bargs or Amare. They both will not be here next year. The players behind them actually give the team a better chance to win. So I am not sure besides there salary what coach would even play them. If you throw contracts out Amare would probably be cut this preseason.

Let's say Bargs can average 16 PPG this season and have some big moments that resurrect him as a legit skilled NBA big. He could probably command above $8 million on the free-agent market next summer. That means you could include him in a sign-and-trade to any team that does not have cap room, and get value back in such a trade.

[K_ick_God]

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like if Acy is going to start at the 4, I'd like Jason Smith at the 5 in the starting lineup with him, as a more all around reliable offensive option than Dalembert.

Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy
Jason Smith

Priggs
JR
THJr
Dalembert
Stat or Bargs...I guess

Not a bad thought but I think at this point Dally is a near lock for the starting 5.

[Orange Mamba]

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like if Acy is going to start at the 4, I'd like Jason Smith at the 5 in the starting lineup with him, as a more all around reliable offensive option than Dalembert.

Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy
Jason Smith

Priggs
JR
THJr
Dalembert
Stat or Bargs...I guess

If Jason Smith were to replace someone in the starting lineup, I think it'd probably be Acy imo

[xsaberx]

I just don't see Bargnani ever being a positive producer on a team. He is a massive defensive issue (unless it's one on one post defense). He can't rebound nearly enough for the3, 4, or 5 spot. He is too slow to play anything but 5. Yes he can hit the mid range jumper and is a decent passer, but so are Jason Smith and Acy. And Bargnani also shoots 3s and has a terrible percentage. He's always been a net negative throughout his career. Look at Toronto without him. Even look at the Knicks last year, we had a better record without him. He has no position.

STAT has at least the fire and will - and has been a winner - so I can understand giving him some time to get the system - but we can't count on him - every time we do we get burned.

I'd be happy with Acy starting at this point.

[mpharris36]

STAT has at least the fire and will - and has been a winner - so I can understand giving him some time to get the system - but we can't count on him - every time we do we get burned.

[god shammgod]

[god shammgod]

[moocow007]

i can see acy as a oakley or mason type.

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I can see some of Mason in Acy. Acy needs to develop some ball handling skills though to really be near a Mason II. Mason also scared the heck out of some of the best players in the NBA (Scottie Pippen was terrified of Mason). Acy hasn't quite gotten there yet.

[Phish Tank]

i can see acy as a oakley or mason type.

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I can see some of Mason in Acy. Acy needs to develop some ball handling skills though to really be near a Mason II. Mason also scared the heck out of some of the best players in the NBA (Scottie Pippen was terrified of Mason). Acy hasn't quite gotten there yet.

The ball handling skills I agree, though Mase's ball handling skills only became evident after Riley left and that was around 29-30 years old. Luckily Acy's only 24. If he can just have a basic instinct for passing, he can survive. Now Mason was also chiseled like anything, and if Acy tries that he'll look like a taller Raymond Felton more than anything.

In the end, the swagger and intimidation factor is what will make Acy compare to Mase more than anything.

[MaseInYourFace]

I like that shirt...

[NoLayupRule]

i love that he's channeling Mason

awesome