Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons

[MrMiyagi]

Kobe on ESPN ranking him 40th best player: "I've known for a long time that they're a bunch of idiots."

I do not know who has made exactly this list, but only seeing Kobe at #40 and Iguodala at #39 you know that Kobe is right in his statement. This is ridiculous.

Part of it has to be how long Kobe's been out and his age. But we were supposed to be one of the worst teams in the NBA last season, so you can never trust "expert" opinions.

[SideSwipe]

[quote="DRK"][quote="SideSwipe"]It's Barron's rebounding and[size=200][b] decent defense [/b][/size]that have most impressed. He's had a decent mid-range and some putbacks as well. The question is will it hold up. Will defenders believe it enough to follow hi out of the lane to clear it out for Dragic, Bledsoe, Green or IT, or make the shot if they don't clear the lane.[/quote]

[img]http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Shaquille-ONeal-Cant-Stop-Laughing-As-He-Watches-Funny-Online-Videos.gif[/img][/quote]

If you are going to use this Gif you better have some good numbers to back up your point....let's have them..

Notice I mention decent, not good, I equate decent to passing. I don't think he was terrible defensively from what I saw. Otherwise, please enlighten us as to why the Suns are thinking of keeping Barron? Cool name (it's double royalty..)?,

[Sunsdeuce]

@paulcoro: Popovich fires back at Sarver http://t.co/XSqDi1RVLs

I'm one of the few who thinks popovich is overrated and should kiss the ground Duncan walks on. Without Duncan spurs have zero championships!!!!!!! Screw him. Sarver actually did something good for the suns fans and popovich sh&@$ on him.

Edit: didn't see this was talked about in a different thread till just now. Apologizes.


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[lilfishi22]

What Sarver did was a good thing for the fans. But Pop's reply was completely justified when you consider three of their guys in their rotations are out with injuries and resting the super old dudes fduring the preseason is fair game. I think Sarver overreacted, taking the PA mic and announcing refund of sorts. But as a Suns fan I can't complain he sympathizing with us.

[SideSwipe]

What Sarver did was a good thing for the fans. But Pop's reply was completely justified when you consider three of their guys in their rotations are out with injuries and resting the super old dudes fduring the preseason is fair game. I think Sarver overreacted, taking the PA mic and announcing refund of sorts. But as a Suns fan I can't complain he sympathizing with us.

I hear what you are saying but Pop's definition of injury has been questioned in the past. That said it is pre-season. Really these games are for tune-ups and line-up changes anyway. Anyone who expects to see big name matchups in the pre-season is sorely mistaken. That said I was floored to see the price of pre-season games. Pretty much the same as regular season ones. There-in lies the difference. 70 bucks a pop for lower bowl pre-season against Flamengo.....

[DirtyDez]

I doubt there were any fans disappointed or offended based on a preseason matchup. Based on the crowd reaction to Sarver's rant I think a majority of them had no idea what he was talking about.

[letsgosuns]

My biggest problem is not so much that he sat so many players, but that they were not even at the game. It is one thing sit out your guys during a preseason game. It is another to say I could care less about showing up to Phoenix, I am just going to stay home. They did not feel like going. How many people can say I do not feel like going to work and just take it off for no reason. In my opinion, there is no justification for not showing up to a game unless you are physically unable to travel. Plus the fact that Popovich himself did not show up is just disrespectful to the game. Do you guys think Jeff Hornacek would ever do something like that for no reason? The Spurs are renowned for this stuff and I take it as a big slap in the face to the league. Sarver is an emotional guy and sees that the Suns are taking the game seriously while the Spurs did not even send nearly half their team to the arena. I guarantee there is still bad blood between the Suns and Spurs and that did not go by the wayside when the Spurs decided to do this.

[DirtyDez]

Sarver is so out of touch with reality sometimes. Nobody cared about this until he went on an unnecessary rant calling out San Antonio for doing nothing wrong. If you bought a ticket to this game to see a competitive game then that's on you for not understanding preseason basketball.

Pop and the Spurs did nothing wrong. If Hornecek held out Dragic and others for rest nobody on here would be complaining.

[Saberestar]

The scrimmage lineups had the look of a first team and second team with Dragic, Bledsoe, Marcus and Markieff Morris and Miles Plumlee going against Thomas, Green, Tucker, Anthony Tolliver and Earl Barron. Tucker will open the season on a three-game suspension.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /17525613/

[lilfishi22]

Sarver is so out of touch with reality sometimes. Nobody cared about this until he went on an unnecessary rant calling out San Antonio for doing nothing wrong. If you bought a ticket to this game to see a competitive game then that's on you for not understanding preseason basketball.

Pop and the Spurs did nothing wrong. If Hornecek held out Dragic and others for rest nobody on here would be complaining.

That's exactly what I felt. If he hadn't brought so much attention to it, I would've just looked at the scorebox ( game isn't on LP, wtf) and just assumed they are resting the oldies.

[Frank Lee]

Whats the beef with Bobby? He's just doing a little grandstanding, moving some merchandise. A nice gesture on his part. A little drama sells tickets. Fuels the rivalry. The FO is desperate to get the city all buzzed up over the Suns again. Been a 3-4 yr dry spell. Did I mention 'desperate'?

Sure hope we have a decent team. Seems like we still lack something. So much is riding on Len, Plum, and the three headed monster. Shrubbery anyone?

[kingstyyyle]

The scrimmage lineups had the look of a first team and second team with Dragic, Bledsoe, Marcus and Markieff Morris and Miles Plumlee going against Thomas, Green, Tucker, Anthony Tolliver and Earl Barron. Tucker will open the season on a three-game suspension.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /17525613/

Interesting. Mo bros to start

[NavLDO]

The scrimmage lineups had the look of a first team and second team with Dragic, Bledsoe, Marcus and Markieff Morris and Miles Plumlee going against Thomas, Green, Tucker, Anthony Tolliver and Earl Barron. Tucker will open the season on a three-game suspension.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /17525613/

Interesting. Mo bros to start

I think it was more that the two brothers don't like playing against each other, so they probably asked to be on the same team.

That, or they got to choose teams, with Barron and Kieff as the Captains, and Kieff got to pick first. "I choose my brother". After seeing Kieff's choice, Barron got confused and thought they had to choose by position, and since Tolliver was the last PF left...

[NTB]

Paul Coro @paulcoro 18 Oct 03:54 ET
With three 8-minute periods and a running clock, Green scored 23 and hit the game-winning 3. Marcus Morris led the losing team with 18.

LOL.

Paul Coro @paulcoro 18 Oct 03:27 ET
Hornacek to T.J. Warren after missing 1-leg runner: "Pass the ball. We're not playing a pickup game."


Paul Coro @paulcoro 18 Oct 03:30 ET
Plumlee just had a fastbreak dunk on Barron after Bledsoe made a great bounce pass ahead to Plumlee and around a defender.

P.J. Tucker is doing a good bit of playmaking for his team. He ran one set and has fed two consecutive Thomas 3-pointers.

[gaspar]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /17525613/

Interesting. Mo bros to start

I think it was more that the two brothers don't like playing against each other, so they probably asked to be on the same team.

That, or they got to choose teams, with Barron and Kieff as the Captains, and Kieff got to pick first. "I choose my brother". After seeing Kieff's choice, Barron got confused and thought they had to choose by position, and since Tolliver was the last PF left...

Before the game against the Spurs Horny said that Marcus will be starting at SF when Tucker is suspended.

[NavLDO]

Interesting. Mo bros to start

I think it was more that the two brothers don't like playing against each other, so they probably asked to be on the same team.

That, or they got to choose teams, with Barron and Kieff as the Captains, and Kieff got to pick first. "I choose my brother". After seeing Kieff's choice, Barron got confused and thought they had to choose by position, and since Tolliver was the last PF left...

Before the game against the Spurs Horny said that Marcus will be starting at SF when Tucker is suspended.

Oh, I suspected as much...it was just my lame attempt at being funny.

[Sunsdeuce]

@TermineRadio: Goran Drajic told me & @Jumpshot8 he's seen what Dirk & Lebron said, but he likes 82 and 48 b/c "I like to play every chance I get"...


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[carey]

Anyone know what specifically is going on with Zoran and his visa issues? (Please no dumb Mastercard jokes.)

[lilfishi22]

Anyone know what specifically is going on with Zoran and his visa issues? (Please no dumb Mastercard jokes.)

Finalizing his visa from what I've read.

[RunDogGun]

I was going to post something about J Sullinger doing a decent job of making himself a stretch four earlier today,and now I see he ended up with 21 pts and 19 rbds. And two steals?