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OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS)

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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#221 » by frogfood » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:33 pm

IMAN5 wrote:Who took part in the brutal killing of the the termites?

Rick, Abraham, Michonne, Sasha. Did Maggie? I know Glenn didn't because he's all soft and shi.


Those 4 you stated. Glenn, Tara and Maggie did not partake.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#222 » by frogfood » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:36 pm

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HeartBreaking wrote:funny how rick is using shanes philosophy now.


that's the point. they talk about this a lot in the talking dead how rick is way worse than shane is right now. but that's part of the world changing a good man. I believe shane as a cop was a good man, and he did look out for rick, even tried saving him when the swat were killing everyone in the hospital. shane became the person you have to become to survive an apocalypse. rick took longer to realize that.


Ehh, seems like a lot of broad generalizations here. Shane has also been dead for 2 seasons now, sooooo idk. You're going to tell me Rick will not once again, down the road, find the human side of him? he's already flip flopped once this year when he found Judith!

Gonna agree with prophet. I wouldn't expect any continuity or concrete themes based on the source.

edit: I mean, if this goes for 10 years let's say, do you think it's just going to keep going down into some nihilistic barbarism? There's no way that will happen.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#223 » by SwaggyB » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:43 pm

frogfood wrote:
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HeartBreaking wrote:funny how rick is using shanes philosophy now.


that's the point. they talk about this a lot in the talking dead how rick is way worse than shane is right now. but that's part of the world changing a good man. I believe shane as a cop was a good man, and he did look out for rick, even tried saving him when the swat were killing everyone in the hospital. shane became the person you have to become to survive an apocalypse. rick took longer to realize that.


Ehh, seems like a lot of broad generalizations here. Shane has also been dead for 2 seasons now, sooooo idk. You're going to tell me Rick will not once again, down the road, find the human side of him? he's already flip flopped once this year when he found Judith!

Gonna agree with prophet. I wouldn't expect any continuity or concrete themes based on the source.

edit: I mean, if this goes for 10 years let's say, do you think it's just going to keep going down into some nihilistic barbarism? There's no way that will happen.


I feel like Carl gets a little more badass every time Rick gets a little wimpy. Remember that time he killed a kid? We need more of that Carl.. not whiney bitch Carl. But if that means we get wimpy Rick... they should just deviate from the books and kill Carl.

As for the story, I expect a big part of the reason they are working a spinoff is (aside from just capitalizing on the popularity obviously), to allow them to explore other stories and situations without a backlash from readers of the comics getting upset when something doesn't happen as it did in the comics.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#224 » by DishAndSwish » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:45 pm

IMAN5 wrote:
HeartBreaking wrote:funny how rick is using shanes philosophy now.


that's the point. they talk about this a lot in the talking dead how rick is way worse than shane is right now. but that's part of the world changing a good man. I believe shane as a cop was a good man, and he did look out for rick, even tried saving him when the swat were killing everyone in the hospital. shane became the person you have to become to survive an apocalypse. rick took longer to realize that.


No way. Rick has not devolved anywhere close to Shane's level. He was brutal in exacting his revenge against a decidedly evil threat, yes, but he did not cause injury to an innocent person (the way Shane killed Otis). Sure, one can argue that Shane killed Otis in order to save Karl, but I don't think Rick has or will be able to stoop to that level yet.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#225 » by frogfood » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:50 pm

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frogfood wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:
that's the point. they talk about this a lot in the talking dead how rick is way worse than shane is right now. but that's part of the world changing a good man. I believe shane as a cop was a good man, and he did look out for rick, even tried saving him when the swat were killing everyone in the hospital. shane became the person you have to become to survive an apocalypse. rick took longer to realize that.


Ehh, seems like a lot of broad generalizations here. Shane has also been dead for 2 seasons now, sooooo idk. You're going to tell me Rick will not once again, down the road, find the human side of him? he's already flip flopped once this year when he found Judith!

Gonna agree with prophet. I wouldn't expect any continuity or concrete themes based on the source.

edit: I mean, if this goes for 10 years let's say, do you think it's just going to keep going down into some nihilistic barbarism? There's no way that will happen.


I feel like Carl gets a little more badass every time Rick gets a little wimpy. Remember that time he killed a kid? We need more of that Carl.. not whiney bitch Carl. But if that means we get wimpy Rick... they should just deviate from the books and kill Carl.

As for the story, I expect a big part of the reason they are working a spinoff is (aside from just capitalizing on the popularity obviously), to allow them to explore other stories and situations without a backlash from readers of the comics getting upset when something doesn't happen as it did in the comics.


Carl has taken a major backseat this year. Shame. I like this Carl. Not wimpy or whiney but not cold blooded sociopath. He seems like season 1 Rick.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#226 » by Meat » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:22 pm

DishAndSwish wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:
HeartBreaking wrote:funny how rick is using shanes philosophy now.


that's the point. they talk about this a lot in the talking dead how rick is way worse than shane is right now. but that's part of the world changing a good man. I believe shane as a cop was a good man, and he did look out for rick, even tried saving him when the swat were killing everyone in the hospital. shane became the person you have to become to survive an apocalypse. rick took longer to realize that.


No way. Rick has not devolved anywhere close to Shane's level. He was brutal in exacting his revenge against a decidedly evil threat, yes, but he did not cause injury to an innocent person (the way Shane killed Otis). Sure, one can argue that Shane killed Otis in order to save Karl, but I don't think Rick has or will be able to stoop to that level yet.

that was this episode, there's bound to be an aftermath of the brutality. Rick enjoyed the killing, and it'll come to light.

shane never made a choice outside outside of a logical one.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#227 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:37 pm

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DishAndSwish wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:
that's the point. they talk about this a lot in the talking dead how rick is way worse than shane is right now. but that's part of the world changing a good man. I believe shane as a cop was a good man, and he did look out for rick, even tried saving him when the swat were killing everyone in the hospital. shane became the person you have to become to survive an apocalypse. rick took longer to realize that.


No way. Rick has not devolved anywhere close to Shane's level. He was brutal in exacting his revenge against a decidedly evil threat, yes, but he did not cause injury to an innocent person (the way Shane killed Otis). Sure, one can argue that Shane killed Otis in order to save Karl, but I don't think Rick has or will be able to stoop to that level yet.

that was this episode, there's bound to be an aftermath of the brutality. Rick enjoyed the killing, and it'll come to light.

shane never made a choice outside outside of a logical one.


Rick is the strongest guy in the group. He is the moral compass. He is the decider of right and wrong. The last vestige of right and wrong in this small piece of the world. Rick decided that the Termites don't get to live and he executed them with fervor. They disgusted him and he removed them from this new world. Notice he was more brutal with them than with any other threat he encountered. They could not be part of his world. They were irredeemable. Rick isn't a savage at all and isn't becoming savage. He's becoming the last voice of the old ways. That's why he told Tyreese that his experiences outside of Terminus didn't kill him and he would be okay. And Rick was also okay after the execution. He was back to his normal self because he never lost himself.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#228 » by Meat » Mon Nov 3, 2014 3:12 am

Meat wrote:
Matty wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:I do think it was STUPID for Glen and Carol to go running off without telling anyone about where they were going.


They didn't have a choice. They were chasing the vehicle that kidnapped Beth last season.

I'm curious as to who that person was hiding behind the bush at the end of the episode.

i think it's noah(tyler james williams) next week is a beth episode and he's related to the hospital she's in(based on the game)

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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#229 » by Dr. Detfink » Mon Nov 3, 2014 3:37 am

Should've had Blue Cross. :lol:
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#230 » by kane » Mon Nov 3, 2014 4:02 am

One of the worst episodes of all time
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#231 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Nov 3, 2014 5:27 am

Who came out of the woods?
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#232 » by Sky_Knicks3 » Mon Nov 3, 2014 5:29 am

Everybody hates Chris! At first I was like "Why the hell is Beth leaving him? Stop walking so fast!"

And then I was like "Why the hell is he leaving Beth?? Stop limping so fast!" :lol:
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#233 » by Meat » Mon Nov 3, 2014 5:37 am

kane wrote:One of the worst episodes of all time

it's a setup episode, of course it was gonna be slow
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#234 » by emo » Mon Nov 3, 2014 5:50 am

I really hate "Beth" episodes.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#235 » by steamed hams » Mon Nov 3, 2014 6:22 am

Man...I hated this episode. Was this apart of the comic books btw or no?
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#236 » by boomann21 » Mon Nov 3, 2014 6:57 am

I rather enjoyed it. Except that one lady prison guard. All the guards were rapists obviously. Dude had a lolly pop. Am I spoiling anything? Everybody hates Chris because he left Beth. She is Strong and when I say she I mean Beth. She is going to turn into Carol Jr. And Carol coming in as a espionage spy while Daryl goes back and bring the calvary should make for future good TV.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#237 » by ITGM » Mon Nov 3, 2014 6:59 am

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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#238 » by Meat » Mon Nov 3, 2014 7:02 am

sosallycanwait wrote:Man...I hated this episode. Was this apart of the comic books btw or no?

no there's no beth in the comics, it's sorta based on one of the video games. Noah was from one of the walking dead games he was in a hospital. the point of all of this was to have a reason to bring the characters back to atlanta before moving on to dc area, maybe to make use of the sets? idk
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#239 » by Butch718 » Mon Nov 3, 2014 8:38 am

Everybody still hates Chris.
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Re: OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS) 

Post#240 » by IMAN5 » Mon Nov 3, 2014 2:29 pm

I expected it to be a slow episode but I wouldn't say a filler episode. Filler episode would be the one when Beth and Darryl got drunk last season, that one was terrible. this one creates a new threat, shows other survivors, a different type of community.

Everyone here is maknig jokes how they hate Chris (aka noah) but I think he joins the group. He breaks free, runs into Darryl and Carol. Explains how the system works, that you have to look vulnerable and be "saved" to get inside. Maybe explains how it would be better for Carol to go in because they wouldn't expect it. Then Carol gets in there with Beth and runs shi, Darryl and Noah come as back up near the gate, and the 4 of them escape.
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