Game #2 Washington Wizards at Orlando Magic 10/30 7PM ET

[fklt]

If Frye is legitimately ready to play, I'd like to see maybe Aaron Gordon start with Frye being his primary back up.

people, gordon is playing small forward, just catch up already. at the very least this season. he and frye will play alongside more than they back up each other.

[Blue_and_Whte]

We have to control the paint better and do a better job keeping our man in front and not letting players get into the paint and causing our defense to scramble. Ball movement has to get better so we can create easier shots. Hopefully Frye can go in this one, he would vastly improve the spacing on the floor. Let's get this win with the home crowd on our side!

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

[Blue_and_Whte]

The offense must do better. I think Ben Gordon needs to play much better for us to have a shot.

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I think Ben Gordon needs to NOT play for us to have a shot.

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[tooler]

Our stretch 4 will not be coming off the bench unless we have Omer Asik and Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan.

We have Vucevic and a happy bearded man. We'll start Frye.

[OrlMagic05]

We have to control the paint better and do a better job keeping our man in front and not letting players get into the paint and causing our defense to scramble. Ball movement has to get better so we can create easier shots. Hopefully Frye can go in this one, he would vastly improve the spacing on the floor. Let's get this win with the home crowd on our side!

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

[OrlandoNed]

We have to control the paint better and do a better job keeping our man in front and not letting players get into the paint and causing our defense to scramble. Ball movement has to get better so we can create easier shots. Hopefully Frye can go in this one, he would vastly improve the spacing on the floor. Let's get this win with the home crowd on our side!

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

Payton and Harkless can be on the court together, but not with O' Quinn or AGordon at 4 or AGordon at 3.

The only lineups I'd consider using with Payton and Harkless are: 1. Payton, any SG, Harkless, Frye or Harris, Vuc or O' Quinn 2. Payton, Harkless, Harris, Frye, Vuc or O' Quinn.

[SOUL]

Harkless was a decent shooter last year. It's his aggressiveness that has always needed work.

[Orlwillbeback]

Payton vs. Wall should be amazing. Payton needs to dominate this game defensively if he wants to prove himself.

I'd love if he made this his singular focus against some of the top point guards early in the season. I feel like he just "plays defense" instead of going in there with the idea that he plans to stop John Wall tonight. I guess with the his calm persona you lose the chip-on-your shoulder you get from a guy like Smart. Oh well, that's ok.

Oh yea like he didnt show that mentality when he continuously dove on the floor against holliday

[OrlandoNed]

Harkless was a decent shooter last year. It's his aggressiveness that has always needed work.

He was a decent spot-up shooter. I don't want him taking any shots off the dribble at all unless the clock is about to expire. Harkless has only 2 scoring options that he should use: spot-up 3, attack the rim.

[tiderulz]

We have to control the paint better and do a better job keeping our man in front and not letting players get into the paint and causing our defense to scramble. Ball movement has to get better so we can create easier shots. Hopefully Frye can go in this one, he would vastly improve the spacing on the floor. Let's get this win with the home crowd on our side!

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

Harkless can shoot on outside shooting from Payton passes. Much better than Fournier.

[SOUL]

Harkless was a decent shooter last year. It's his aggressiveness that has always needed work.

He was a decent spot-up shooter. I don't want him taking any shots off the dribble at all unless the clock is about to expire. Harkless has only 2 scoring options that he should use: spot-up 3, attack the rim.

Which is why he can play with Payton finding him on the perimeter or cutting. As soon as Hark tries to do too much, the play fails.

[BadMofoPimp]

We have to control the paint better and do a better job keeping our man in front and not letting players get into the paint and causing our defense to scramble. Ball movement has to get better so we can create easier shots. Hopefully Frye can go in this one, he would vastly improve the spacing on the floor. Let's get this win with the home crowd on our side!

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

That is as moronic a statement as "Who will play Defense when Ridnour and Bum Garbage are on the court at the same time."

Well, Magic were playing 3 on 5 on the defensive side Tuesday night at the end of the 3rd quarter.

[MagicRays]

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

Payton and Harkless can be on the court together, but not with O' Quinn or AGordon at 4 or AGordon at 3.

The only lineups I'd consider using with Payton and Harkless are: 1. Payton, any SG, Harkless, Frye or Harris, Vuc or O' Quinn 2. Payton, Harkless, Harris, Frye, Vuc or O' Quinn.

So you're okay with O'Quinn on the floor as a Center but not as a PF (with Hark and Payton)? I am curious why. Because he doesn't stretch the floor? You could argue that. But you could also argue that KOQ playing C keeps Vuc off the floor, who is arguably our #1 offensive option right now. I'm just curious what you're getting at.

[JBSouthpaw]

Harkless was a decent shooter last year. It's his aggressiveness that has always needed work.

He was a decent spot-up shooter. I don't want him taking any shots off the dribble at all unless the clock is about to expire. Harkless has only 2 scoring options that he should use: spot-up 3, attack the rim.

Which is why he can play with Payton finding him on the perimeter or cutting. As soon as Hark tries to do too much, the play fails.

Harkless got better and better cutting with out the ball last year. Payton will find him.

I want some French, Frye Pick and pop too!
straight mayonnaise.

[OrlMagic05]

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

That is as moronic a statement as "Who will play Defense when Ridnour and Bum Garbage are on the court at the same time."

Well, Magic were playing 3 on 5 on the defensive side Tuesday night at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Defense isn't our problem right now we held the Pelicans to 40% shooting. No one can score right now outside of Vuc and Harris.

[OrlandO]

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

Harkless can shoot on outside shooting from Payton passes. Much better than Fournier.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Fournier was 38% on 3.1 3pt attempts last season, Hark was 38% on 1.9 attempts.

[Bensational]

i'm hoping to see some more of A.Gordon's little step back jumper today. he looked like he was really finding a way to use his handles to get him space against NOP.

most of all, we need some backcourt scoring, and a faster pace.

anyone notice that we had all these plays for getting guys looks on long 2's (or that's what happened when plays broke down), but hardly any plays that freed a guy up for an open 3?? JV really needs to get his guys either taking the ball inside, or taking a 3. we've got Fournier and Gordon who can hit 3's on any given night. A.Gordon has his sweet spots, too. Frye, potentially. let's make use of that element.

[BadMofoPimp]

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

That is as moronic a statement as "Who will play Defense when Ridnour and Bum Garbage are on the court at the same time."

Well, Magic were playing 3 on 5 on the defensive side Tuesday night at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Defense isn't our problem right now we held the Pelicans to 40% shooting. No one can score right now outside of Vuc and Harris.

FYI. Our defense on the 2nd unit was one of the main reasons we lost last night. They scored at will for a 5-10 minute run.

And, a Good coach whom has had 2 years to teach players how to run plays can create open shots via solid play calling and ball movement. Not, run down court, pass to someone to watch them frantically look for someone else to pass too. Coaching really killed us also. It wasn't a lack of offense because you have Payton and Harkless on the court at the same time. That has nothing to do with winning games because a good coach can make offensive plays work with Payton and Harkless. But, a good coach can't make Bum Garbage into a solid defensive player being he is slow and undersized.

Defense wins games and championships. Not, playing a slow footed undersized shooter who can't play defense too many minutes because you are down in a game. That is just flooding the gates for the other team to open their lead even more.

[tiderulz]

Harkless can shoot on outside shooting from Payton passes. Much better than Fournier.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Fournier was 38% on 3.1 3pt attempts last season, Hark was 38% on 1.9 attempts.

last season, different team. Been very underwhelmed with him so far. His handles arent as good as i had heard and his shot looks way off. Harkless may not be as good a creator as i hear Fournier is, but he will defend more. And maybe with our backup PG problems, he can help the 2nd unit score.

[ezzzp]

We have to control the paint better and do a better job keeping our man in front and not letting players get into the paint and causing our defense to scramble. Ball movement has to get better so we can create easier shots. Hopefully Frye can go in this one, he would vastly improve the spacing on the floor. Let's get this win with the home crowd on our side!

Agreed. And to do that they need defensive players like Harkless not undersized brick layers. Well get as good a chance at, some threes with Hark and to anextent Nicholson playing off the ball.

Fournier also needs to shave that crusty ass beard. He looks like Al Qaeda.

Who is going to score for us if Harkless is in the game. Payton and Harkless CANNOT be on the court at the same time. We might as well play 3 on 5 offensively

I get your logic but hasn't Harkless proven to be a solid 3pt threat to spread the floor. Plus he is a good offensive rebounder that also adds speed to our offense - which looked very slow last game. I'd much rather see him get minutes than BGordon