Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[catch20two]

How about 2 years of Henderson + Biz for 3 years of Jason Thompson.

We don't have minutes for Henderson and we're not using Biz either - so we'd be sending 2 useless players away for a useful one - Thompson can play C or PF next to Al when defense is needed.

Hell no. Jason Thompson is like a slightly better Hakim Warrick. I'd pass on that trade.

[Liver_Pooty]

How about 2 years of Henderson + Biz for 3 years of Jason Thompson.

We don't have minutes for Henderson and we're not using Biz either - so we'd be sending 2 useless players away for a useful one - Thompson can play C or PF next to Al when defense is needed.

Hell no. Jason Thompson is like a slightly better Hakim Warrick. I'd pass on that trade.

Thompson is a very solid player. He doesn't really fit a need right now though. We need a legit backup C that is at least somewhat respectable on offense and not a liability.

[catch20two]

How about 2 years of Henderson + Biz for 3 years of Jason Thompson.

We don't have minutes for Henderson and we're not using Biz either - so we'd be sending 2 useless players away for a useful one - Thompson can play C or PF next to Al when defense is needed.

Hell no. Jason Thompson is like a slightly better Hakim Warrick. I'd pass on that trade.

Thompson is a very solid player. He doesn't really fit a need right now though. We need a legit backup C that is at least somewhat respectable on offense and not a liability.

If he ain't solid enough to help Demarcus Cousins than he ain't solid enough to help sloth foot Al Jefferson. Like you said we are crowded at PF anyway. Only PFs I would take is Taj Gibson or John Henson who both can play C since they are rim protectors.

[Braggins]

How about 2 years of Henderson + Biz for 3 years of Jason Thompson.

We don't have minutes for Henderson and we're not using Biz either - so we'd be sending 2 useless players away for a useful one - Thompson can play C or PF next to Al when defense is needed.

Hell no. Jason Thompson is like a slightly better Hakim Warrick. I'd pass on that trade.

Thompson is a very solid player. He doesn't really fit a need right now though. We need a legit backup C that is at least somewhat respectable on offense and not a liability.

Jefferson's defense is worse than Biz's offense. Granted, Biz's defense isn't as good as Al's offense but still. Al's defense can be more of a detriment to this team than Biz's offense ever could be even if he played. I'm not saying he is good or anything but I don't see why Biz wouldn't be fine on the second unit with four shooters (Marvin coming off the bench). He honestly seems like exactly what our bench needs considered it is rampant with chuckers and poor defenders and all Biz does is protect the rim and get boards.

[Liver_Pooty]

Hell no. Jason Thompson is like a slightly better Hakim Warrick. I'd pass on that trade.

Thompson is a very solid player. He doesn't really fit a need right now though. We need a legit backup C that is at least somewhat respectable on offense and not a liability.

Jefferson's defense is worse than Biz's offense. Granted, Biz's defense isn't as good as Al's offense but still. Al's defense can be more of a detriment to this team than Biz's offense ever could be even if he played. I'm not saying he is good or anything but I don't see why Biz wouldn't be fine on the second unit with four shooters (Marvin coming off the bench). He honestly seems like exactly what our bench needs considered it is rampant with chuckers and poor defenders and all Biz does is protect the rim and get boards.

I have confidence in our coach, and apparently there is something going on during practices to prove Maxiell getting PT. One doesn't get playing time just by showing up, they earn it. Maybe Maxiell was beating him during scrimmages and such. Who knows? Either way its ridiculous to debate about something so minute that it honestly wont make a difference in the game. Maxiell and Biyombo are even in my opinion, except Maxiell plays like he wants it more.

[Elden Payton]

Jermaine O'Neal might be alright as a FA pickup for the third string C spot?

Maxiell is a pro's pro, but the idea of using him as third strong C (let alone backup) is a gamble imo.

[Braggins]

I disagree that Maxiell and Biyombo are even considering what we need from them but you are right that there has to be something going on. In almost every aspect I have faith in Clifford but when it comes to this one issue I feel like what is happening is crazy. Maybe Biz wasn't focused this offseason due to his camp and him hosting events or whatever and Clifford is trying to get through to him. I really feel like this could hurt us though. Our team, especially our bench, is in dire need of rim protection and a paint presence on defense and despite all his other weaknesses Biz can give us that. Our second units defense last night was absolutely pathetic. Our perimeter players were getting beat left and right and there was no one to offer them any help. Having Biz around the rim could really have made a difference in my opinion. It isn't like anyone on our second unit is going to be looking for Maxiell on offense anyways. Idk, I just can't wrap my brain around all this. Imagine if we would have been playing the Spurs, Clippers, Cavs, or Bulls last night...

[catch20two]

Thompson is a very solid player. He doesn't really fit a need right now though. We need a legit backup C that is at least somewhat respectable on offense and not a liability.

Jefferson's defense is worse than Biz's offense. Granted, Biz's defense isn't as good as Al's offense but still. Al's defense can be more of a detriment to this team than Biz's offense ever could be even if he played. I'm not saying he is good or anything but I don't see why Biz wouldn't be fine on the second unit with four shooters (Marvin coming off the bench). He honestly seems like exactly what our bench needs considered it is rampant with chuckers and poor defenders and all Biz does is protect the rim and get boards.

I have confidence in our coach, and apparently there is something going on during practices to prove Maxiell getting PT. One doesn't get playing time just by showing up, they earn it. Maybe Maxiell was beating him during scrimmages and such. Who knows? Either way its ridiculous to debate about something so minute that it honestly wont make a difference in the game. Maxiell and Biyombo are even in my opinion, except Maxiell plays like he wants it more.

This isn't a issue that's so miniature that it won't make a difference in the game tho. Our 2nd unit has been our downfall for the past year and a half so let's not make it more worse than it already was by replacing our best defender on the 2nd unit with Maxipad just because he's a veteran.

[Liver_Pooty]

Jefferson's defense is worse than Biz's offense. Granted, Biz's defense isn't as good as Al's offense but still. Al's defense can be more of a detriment to this team than Biz's offense ever could be even if he played. I'm not saying he is good or anything but I don't see why Biz wouldn't be fine on the second unit with four shooters (Marvin coming off the bench). He honestly seems like exactly what our bench needs considered it is rampant with chuckers and poor defenders and all Biz does is protect the rim and get boards.

I have confidence in our coach, and apparently there is something going on during practices to prove Maxiell getting PT. One doesn't get playing time just by showing up, they earn it. Maybe Maxiell was beating him during scrimmages and such. Who knows? Either way its ridiculous to debate about something so minute that it honestly wont make a difference in the game. Maxiell and Biyombo are even in my opinion, except Maxiell plays like he wants it more.

This isn't a issue that's so miniature that it won't make a difference in the game tho. Our 2nd unit has been our downfall for the past year and a half so let's not make it more worse than it already was by replacing our best defender on the 2nd unit with Maxipad just because he's a veteran.

Regardless we could use an upgrade over both of them. Hopefully we make it at the trade deadline or before.

Edit: Emeka Okafor is still out there waiting..

[catch20two]

I have confidence in our coach, and apparently there is something going on during practices to prove Maxiell getting PT. One doesn't get playing time just by showing up, they earn it. Maybe Maxiell was beating him during scrimmages and such. Who knows? Either way its ridiculous to debate about something so minute that it honestly wont make a difference in the game. Maxiell and Biyombo are even in my opinion, except Maxiell plays like he wants it more.

This isn't a issue that's so miniature that it won't make a difference in the game tho. Our 2nd unit has been our downfall for the past year and a half so let's not make it more worse than it already was by replacing our best defender on the 2nd unit with Maxipad just because he's a veteran.

Regardless we could use an upgrade over both of them. Hopefully we make it at the trade deadline or before.

Edit: Emeka Okafor is still out there waiting..

If Okafor replaced Biz I wouldn't have much of a fuss or argument. It's the mere fact that it's Maxiell that make it harsh.

[Liver_Pooty]

This isn't a issue that's so miniature that it won't make a difference in the game tho. Our 2nd unit has been our downfall for the past year and a half so let's not make it more worse than it already was by replacing our best defender on the 2nd unit with Maxipad just because he's a veteran.

Regardless we could use an upgrade over both of them. Hopefully we make it at the trade deadline or before.

Edit: Emeka Okafor is still out there waiting..

If Okafor replaced Biz I wouldn't have much of a fuss or argument. It's the mere fact that it's Maxiell that make it harsh.

The mere fact that we somewhat agree about a washed up Okafor replacing the 7th pick in the 2011 draft makes me sick to be honest.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Biyombo to POR for Robinson?
Maybe the two top-ten, third-string centers just need a change of scenery?

Could be interesting, not sure where he'd fit though. I definitely think he belongs in the league, just not on a top 5 pick salary.

OT: If he is traded by tomorrow I wonder if his new team would be able to exercise his option even after Portland declined it.

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[catch20two]

Regardless we could use an upgrade over both of them. Hopefully we make it at the trade deadline or before.

Edit: Emeka Okafor is still out there waiting..

If Okafor replaced Biz I wouldn't have much of a fuss or argument. It's the mere fact that it's Maxiell that make it harsh.

The mere fact that we somewhat agree about a washed up Okafor replacing the 7th pick in the 2011 draft makes me sick to be honest.

Washed up or not, Okafor is serviceable and he's a rim protector. Eh, a washed up Okafor is still one of the better backup centers in the league. I haven't seen him in a while due to injuries so he might be a corpse but he'd be a better corpse than the one we play in Maxiell.

[Liver_Pooty]

If Okafor replaced Biz I wouldn't have much of a fuss or argument. It's the mere fact that it's Maxiell that make it harsh.

The mere fact that we somewhat agree about a washed up Okafor replacing the 7th pick in the 2011 draft makes me sick to be honest.

Washed up or not, Okafor is serviceable and he's a rim protector. Eh, a washed up Okafor is still one of the better backup centers in the league. I haven't seen him in a while due to injuries so he might be a corpse but he'd be a better corpse than the one we play in Maxiell.

Okafor would be THE best backup C in the league when healthy. He must have some bad issues to not be signed yet. Either that or he has opened up a Yoga gym. Maybe him and Biyombo can combine their Yoga and Crossfit for some Yogafit and make a ton of money.

Edit: I think I may trademark that. Seems like a good marketing idea. Combining Yoga and Crossfit for Yogafit.

[Snidely FC]

Okafor won't be ready to play until at least Dec is what I previously heard- herniated disc in neck

Even after losing an entire season to injury, Emeka Okafor is a man in demand.

Roughly half of the league, I'm told, has registered interest this summer in Okafor, despite the fact that the 31-year-old free agent missed all of the 2013-14 season while recovering from a serious neck ailment.

The list of pursuers for the defensive-minded center, according to NBA front office sources, includes LeBron James' Cleveland Cavaliers as well as LeBron's old friends in Miami.

But I'm likewise told that Okafor is unlikely to sign anywhere until midseason as he continues to recover from his herniated disk.

Said one source: "He'll be in high demand when he's back." - Marc Stein

[MasterIchiro]

Regardless we could use an upgrade over both of them. Hopefully we make it at the trade deadline or before.

Edit: Emeka Okafor is still out there waiting..

If Okafor replaced Biz I wouldn't have much of a fuss or argument. It's the mere fact that it's Maxiell that make it harsh.

The mere fact that we somewhat agree about a washed up Okafor replacing the 7th pick in the 2011 draft makes me sick to be honest.

With the 7th pick in the 2011 NBA draft, the Charlotte Hornets select Jason Maxiell.

[tondi123]

It just seems like we've spent a lot of energy on adding guys to the second team that should be able to score. None of them however are good defenders so I don't know why our coach obsesses with playing a center with the second team who also isnt a good defender just because he might make one jumper a game. Seems to me, with our current second team, we would want a glass cleaning, shot blocking, rim protector since whoever is playing center on the second unit is going to be the fifth option anyway.

[LofJ]

It just seems like we've spent a lot of energy on adding guys to the second team that should be able to score. None of them however are good defenders so I don't know why our coach obsesses with playing a center with the second team who also isnt a good defender just because he might make one jumper a game. Seems to me, with our current second team, we would want a glass cleaning, shot blocking, rim protector since whoever is playing center on the second unit is going to be the fifth option anyway.

Amen, Biyombo's defensive abilities are exactly what we need on the 2nd unit.

[Snidely FC]

Just wondering if we could "Help" OKC with all their injuries. They're a tough team to trade with because after their stars they have a bunch of guys on low dollar contracts. All I could come up with was:

Hendo ($6M) + Biz ($3.8M) for Perkins (9.6 M) + McGary (1.4)

Now, OKC would probably hang up on this offer since they appear to love Perkins and McGary, but depends on how desperate they are to stay afloat during these injuries. Perkins is a 9.6M expiring, who would be a strong backup Center for one season, but the reason I would totally do this trade is to nab McGary. OKC always seemed like a good fit for Hendo, and a team that would like the springy Biz. Imagine him next to Ibaka?

[LofJ]

Just wondering if we could "Help" OKC with all their injuries. They're a tough team to trade with because after their stars they have a bunch of guys on low dollar contracts. All I could come up with was:

Hendo ($6M) + Biz ($3.8M) for Perkins (9.6 M) + McGary (1.4)

Now, OKC would probably hang up on this offer since they appear to love Perkins and McGary, but depends on how desperate they are to stay afloat during these injuries. Perkins is a 9.6M expiring, who would be a strong backup Center for one season, but the reason I would totally do this trade is to nab McGary. OKC always seemed like a good fit for Hendo, and a team that would like the springy Biz. Imagine him next to Ibaka?

I don't think Perkins would even be much of a backup at this point in his career. I'd rather we trade for someone with more athleticism. Jordan Hill is a guy I suggested earlier. He has to agree to a trade in order for it to happen, but I think he'd be interested because he's from the area. He might like the idea of playing close to home at this point in his career.