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Post#901 » by Lindecision » Wed Nov 5, 2014 12:58 pm

QRich3 wrote:If I'm looking it up correctly, we have a $80,743,574 payroll, including Delfino and Raduljica salaries that we're gonna be paying for the next 5 years :x
The apron (where we're hard-capped at after using the MLE) is $80,829,000, so we're right there, and any trade we do, we can't absorb a dollar on salary. We also have exactly the minimum 15 player on our roster, so we can't do any 3 players for 2 kind of trade.

Because of that, it's gonna be extremely difficult to trade for Jeff Green or Iguodala or any of those guys with a big salary, unless we include someone like Redick or DJ on the trade (which we won't).

There's not a lot of desirable SF's (if any) we can realistically trade for. One of the best realistic ones I can think of is Dudley, imagine that.


I thought we had more wiggle room than that. Basketballinsiders says its $80,040,744. That's including Delfino and Raduljica. And on various other sites it says the minimum is 13, with the maximum being 15.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#902 » by QRich3 » Wed Nov 5, 2014 5:06 pm

That is true, minimum number is 13, I had a brainfart there. As for the salaries, I got this:

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Chris Paul      $20,068,563
Blake Griffin   $17,674,612
DeAndre Jordan  $11,440,124
J.J. Redick     $6,583,500
Jamal Crawford  $5,450,000
Spencer Hawes   $5,305,000
Matt Barnes     $3,396,250
Jordan Farmar   $2,077,000
Hedo Turkoglu   $1,448,490
Glen Davis      $1,227,985
Reggie Bullock  $1,200,720
C.J. Wilcox     $1,109,760
Ekpe Udoh       $981,084
CDR             $915,243
Cunningham      $915,243
Carlos Delfino  $650,000
Raduljica       $300,000
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                $80,743,574


Whatever the case, any wiggle room is not enough for a realistic meaningful trade. We may possibly be able to fit a Crawford+Barnes+Wilcox for Jeff Green trade and risk having only 13 guys for the season, but they'd have to crunch the numbers to the cent for it to work, and Boston doesn't have any incentive to take on those guys just to take a fly on Wilcox/Bullock :(
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#903 » by Quake Griffin » Wed Nov 5, 2014 5:36 pm

Reggie hit 4 trey balls and gives a damn on defense although he got lost a few times.

he's untradeable at this point

but really I'm just going to pray him and Wilcox give us something on the wings.
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Post#904 » by LACtdom » Thu Nov 6, 2014 2:49 am

I think the only trade that is realistic is for us to trade young talent & expiring contracts for a player on a non-contending team who is tanking etc. So maybe players like OJ Mayo, Tyreke Evans, Wesley Johnson, etc.?
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Post#905 » by Lindecision » Thu Nov 6, 2014 5:56 pm

JJ is on $6,792,500. Hedo, Baby and Udoh only count for $915,243 against the cap. That gives us $788,256 of wiggle room under the hard cap.

Got to shake things up in my opinion.
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Post#906 » by Neddy » Fri Nov 7, 2014 3:11 am

LACtdom wrote:I think the only trade that is realistic is for us to trade young talent & expiring contracts for a player on a non-contending team who is tanking etc. So maybe players like OJ Mayo, Tyreke Evans, Wesley Johnson, etc.?


with our core of CP3, Blake, DJ and none of them being a deadeye shooter, how is Tyreke Evans or Wesley Johnson going to fit in?

and OJ is slightly out of our price range.

I think we should simply sit and wait. JJ will come around. and this is coming from the guy who has him on his fantasy team and have been **** things up big time for me so far.

be patient, guys. if anything, we need to upgrade Matt Barnes. I hope Bullock is that guy. cross my fingers.
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Post#907 » by LACtdom » Fri Nov 7, 2014 4:02 am

Neddy wrote:
LACtdom wrote:I think the only trade that is realistic is for us to trade young talent & expiring contracts for a player on a non-contending team who is tanking etc. So maybe players like OJ Mayo, Tyreke Evans, Wesley Johnson, etc.?


with our core of CP3, Blake, DJ and none of them being a deadeye shooter, how is Tyreke Evans or Wesley Johnson going to fit in?

and OJ is slightly out of our price range.

I think we should simply sit and wait. JJ will come around. and this is coming from the guy who has him on his fantasy team and have been **** things up big time for me so far.

be patient, guys. if anything, we need to upgrade Matt Barnes. I hope Bullock is that guy. cross my fingers.

I 100% agree. I hope we have no intentions of trading JJ because we will cry when he does a Dudley and turns it around. Kyle Korver and Mike Miller are the only dead-eye shooters if that's what we're looking for. I was kinda looking for a 2-way player who could shoot 3's a bit better than Barnes.
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Post#908 » by og15 » Fri Nov 7, 2014 6:01 am

I have no issue with trading JJ if you're getting the right player back. I don't think he does irreplaceable things, or more so things you can't produce in a different manner. I never have any interest in trading guys for the sake of trading them, that's just stupid.
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Post#909 » by Neddy » Fri Nov 7, 2014 6:37 am

og15 wrote:I have no issue with trading JJ if you're getting the right player back. I don't think he does irreplaceable things, or more so things you can't produce in a different manner. I never have any interest in trading guys for the sake of trading them, that's just stupid.


the question is then, who is exactly available that we can improve upon from JJ? for a player that the salary matches where we can still have at least 14 players on the roster without going overboard on the cap, and the team that holds such player that is interested in trading with us for JJ.

I don't see any.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#910 » by og15 » Fri Nov 7, 2014 6:46 pm

Neddy wrote:
og15 wrote:I have no issue with trading JJ if you're getting the right player back. I don't think he does irreplaceable things, or more so things you can't produce in a different manner. I never have any interest in trading guys for the sake of trading them, that's just stupid.


the question is then, who is exactly available that we can improve upon from JJ? for a player that the salary matches where we can still have at least 14 players on the roster without going overboard on the cap, and the team that holds such player that is interested in trading with us for JJ.

I don't see any.

...and there's the second part. I have no issue trading him for the right return, but I don't see the acquirable "right return" players out there for him either.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#911 » by Cracka2Hi » Sat Nov 8, 2014 3:13 am

I would love for the team to be able to trade Reddick and Barnes. I don't think they have any value tho. Not many teams need a SG that have something they could offer in return for Reddick. The only team I found was the Kings. They might be willing to give up Derrick Williams for him. That wouldn't really be an upgrade but I think that's about as much value as Reddick hs with the way he's playing.
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Post#912 » by LACtdom » Sat Nov 8, 2014 4:24 am

I think Doc needs to get the most out of our players before we think about trades. Otherwise it will be Dudley all over again watching another team turn our traded player into mr reliable.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#913 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Nov 8, 2014 5:15 am

going to keep my eyes on the Nuggets if their struggles continue.

they have wings that can help.
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Post#914 » by Lindecision » Sat Nov 8, 2014 6:27 pm

Neddy wrote:
og15 wrote:I have no issue with trading JJ if you're getting the right player back. I don't think he does irreplaceable things, or more so things you can't produce in a different manner. I never have any interest in trading guys for the sake of trading them, that's just stupid.


the question is then, who is exactly available that we can improve upon from JJ? for a player that the salary matches where we can still have at least 14 players on the roster without going overboard on the cap, and the team that holds such player that is interested in trading with us for JJ.

I don't see any.


I could potentially see the Wizards or the Raptors wanting to add another piece for their playoff run. They could be that 3rd team that provides value for Boston and sends them a 1st round pick.
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Post#915 » by ejftw » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:48 pm

Should've asked for Khris Middleton in place of Delfino or Radjlica.
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Post#916 » by QRich3 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:17 pm

ejftw wrote:Should've asked for Khris Middleton in place of Delfino or Radjlica.

Yep, he'd be perfect for us! a guy who can defend SF's and hit the three at a good rate when he's open, and he barely makes the minimum. I'd really love to know what happened behind the scenes on the Dudley trade, and why did we get such an awful return. Why on earth didn't the 6ers take a free 1st from us in exchange for taking Dudley, and why did the Bucks only give us unplayable trash in exchange for a possibly serviceable player on a small contract and a freakin 1st. It just doesn't make sense.
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Post#917 » by TucsonClip » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:23 pm

Would have liked to get MIddleton, but we made that deal to cut bait on salary so we could fill out our roster.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#918 » by mttwlsn16 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:20 pm

Heard we've had discussion about signing MWP after his season in China ends late January
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Post#919 » by Ranma » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:08 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:Heard we've had discussion about signing MWP after his season in China ends late January


The guy from the tweet below apparently has roundabout connections to the team, but his assertion of the Clippers' interest in Michael Beasley and the player formerly known as Ron Artest seems to be partially corroborated by the ESPN video below. I'm not interested in either option.

Marc Stein states in the video that the Clips have had their eye on Metta World Peace for a while given his participation over the summer at the Playa Del Rey practice facility, but he won't be available until mid-February or March due to the commitment to his Chinese basketball team.


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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#920 » by Quake Griffin » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:26 am

nuggets imploding?

we can't fleece one of their wings?
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