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Re: Dez 

Post#21 » by tw1st3d » Wed Nov 5, 2014 7:30 pm

Jarntt wrote:
tw1st3d wrote:I have no problem saying he is the best receiver on the team..... without question.

But disagree on the deep ball..... I seldom see him get separation ( for as many times as he is thrown to deep)

And I've changed from not wanting him on the team for being immature somewhat .... I still want to see him make it through a season without something happening ( half a season to go )
(Dont forget this is the guy that walked off the field last year when we still had a chance to win the game..... thats not off the field issues .... that's a punk crybaby move no matter how you slice it)
But I dont care if he had never had issues ...... Talent wise I dont think he is worth CJ money

I think you pay a man based on what he has done ...... Like with any job.
Not pay him for what you HOPE he will do or what he MAY become

Which to me is is the 10-12 million a year range I'd be good with 5 years 60 million .... 40 more million is almost double that


and here's what I was referring to

With 1:24 left in the fourth quarter of the game between the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers, Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo checked out of a run play and threw a horrible interception to Packers cornerback Tramon Williams on a pass intended for Cole Beasley. Romo's attempt was off-course, and it was an awful decision. The score was 37-36 in favor of Green Bay, and the Packers had come back from a 26-3 halftime deficit. Romo had the ball at the Dallas 29-yard line, the Cowboys had been gashing the Packers' front seven with the running game and all Romo had to do was to avoid the major brain-cramp and get his team into field-goal range -- which he had the time and the resources to do.

One of Romo's resources was receiver Dez Bryant, who caught 11 passes on 17 targets for 153 yards and a touchdown on the day. Bryant's touchdown was an amazing play -- he went vertical and grabbed the pass despite the efforts of more than one Green Bay defender. That showed Bryant's freakish talent, but what happened after Romo's interception also showed Bryant's immaturity. After the pick, and the review allowing Walt Coleman's officiating crew to catch up with the idea that it was a pick, Bryant was caught by FOX Sports' cameras as he walked off the field.

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2013/12/ ... as-cowboys



Disagree with the bolded. I think you have to pay them for what you think they will do going forward, not for what they did in the past. The Problem with Dallas has been paying for the past. That's how you end up with an old team


Have to disagree.... Dallas's problem has been over paying players that are already borderline old. 28-29 year old guys given 4-7 year contracts and paying them like they are 26 ..... then restructring those contracts to where you end up with a 32 or older players that has lost a step earning a pay check as if he was still elite

For example with the way Ware played last year .... would he have been worth 17 million to us this year?
Davis comes to mind ... Gurode comes to mind Flo comes to mind Ratliff REALLY comes to mind
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Re: Dez 

Post#22 » by Romotodez » Wed Nov 5, 2014 10:21 pm

He is still fairly young , but WRs make the biggest jumps after year 1 and 2 supposedly. I think this is what he is. Sure he might improve his route running. I would say he better because right now to me he is a good wr that is great in the red zone. Being great in the red zone is huge. I don't know how you put a price tag on that. With all of the running this year he has had more single coverage too. Peterson and Breeland shut him down. I thought the guy from NO did as well. I'm not saying I don't want him because he makes our offense better. I just don't think he can demand 15 mil a yr.
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Re: Dez 

Post#23 » by tw1st3d » Wed Nov 5, 2014 11:24 pm

Romotodez wrote:He is still fairly young , but WRs make the biggest jumps after year 1 and 2 supposedly. I think this is what he is. Sure he might improve his route running. I would say he better because right now to me he is a good wr that is great in the red zone. Being great in the red zone is huge. I don't know how you put a price tag on that. With all of the running this year he has had more single coverage too. Peterson and Breeland shut him down. I thought the guy from NO did as well. I'm not saying I don't want him because he makes our offense better. I just don't think he can demand 15 mil a yr.



Oh I absolutely disagree ...... price tag matters

Barber was a beast in the Red Zone and we PAID him .... but with that pay came more expectations..... and how did that turn out for us. I've seen how that story plays out

Dont get me wrong I want Dez to stay a Cowboy.......... But not at that price tag
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Re: Dez 

Post#24 » by Schmoopy1000 » Thu Nov 6, 2014 12:30 am

I wouldn't mind giving Dez a big payday if the big pay was incentive based.

The guy can make some insanely difficult catches, but then go & drop ones that all WRs should snag.
As good as his possibilities are. he is still inconsistent. he may deserve some guaranteed money, but I don't want him having QB guaranteed money just from potential.

I kinda lean towards Twist on this subject.

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