We get it, Blake. You want to prove that you can shoot

[Akklaim1]

But why get rid of your face-up game? That was so lethal.

[og15]

Makes absolutely no sense. I was one that wasn't stuck on the "he has to be better with his back to the basket" stuff. His next level was a better jumpshot and a lethal face-up game and back to the basket improvement obviously is nice and great, but he's not Shaq. Hakeem was a king of face-up because he was also undersized, though people tend to forget that because of the nice back to the basket post moves he had.

So far this season he has done a poor job in mixing up his scoring attack. Too much back to the basket and posting up from 12 feet out, way too little attack from face-up and popping way too much as opposed to rolling on jumpers.

It's 5 games though, and players have stretches where they change their approach, so I'm not worried that he's going to now forget those things, but he should start mixing it up more moving forward.

[MartinToVaught]

Woodson has to be telling him to abandon the face-up game entirely. No way he would have abandoned such an integral part of his game without being told to.

Woodson has to be canned, and someone needs to sit Blake down and show him tapes of Brand using the jumper as a tool to open up the face-up game. That's how Blake needs to use his jumper. He's not Melo, and the coaches need to stop forcing a square peg into a round hole.

[Quake Griffin]

IDC about the jumpers tbh.

I care about these Charles Barkley-esque 5 second back downs that get so easily ruined as soon as a guard flashes at him.

who in the hell runs offense like that anymore?
it's not the 90s anymore.
he's not even the right player to be doing that.

last year i thought Doc told him he wants him facing up more.
HOW IN THE HELL did we go from that to backing down 7 footers?

[mike3]

This thread, thank you.

I've been furious with Blake's transition to literally looking like all he can do is take jumpshots. He was quoted at the start of the season saying he can't fall in the trap of using his jumpshot too much and not attacking. Well Blake, you've done that horribly so far this season.

I would literally rather him go back to bully-ball Blake as a rookie and get his 20+ pts and 12+ boards. As ugly as it might've looked, he was aggressive, nobody could stop him.

Speaking of, rebounding, what on earth is with Blake? He doesn't even TRY to grab rebounds. He hasn't got 10 this season, he got 1 (ONE!!!) rebound against Warriors.

If it's Woodson then he's got to be fired, Blake has to have his jumpshot to create space and as Martin said, open up his face up game.

All I know is that this season has been the most frustrating in terms of Blake Griffin's game, for me.

[LACtdom]

Against the Dubs he had 1 FTA which means he didn't attack the basket at all.

[og15]

IDC about the jumpers tbh.

I care about these Charles Barkley-esque 5 second back downs that get so easily ruined as soon as a guard flashes at him.

who in the hell runs offense like that anymore?
it's not the 90s anymore.
he's not even the right player to be doing that.

last year i thought Doc told him he wants him facing up more.
HOW IN THE HELL did we go from that to backing down 7 footers?

The backing down stuff is really annoying, just slowing down the pace, so stagnant, and he isn't even optimally effective doing post ups from 12 feet.

I don't mind the jumpshots, but it is too much.

5 games so far:
40.2% FGA 16-23 feet
22.7% FGA 0-3 feet

Last season:
26.7% FGA 16-23 feet
40.7% FGA 0-3 feet

Career:
22.1% FGA 16-23 feet
40.4% FGA 0-3 feet

He can't switch his inside attempts with his long jumpshot attempts, what is he, LaMarcus Aldridge?

[Quake Griffin]

IDC about the jumpers tbh.

I care about these Charles Barkley-esque 5 second back downs that get so easily ruined as soon as a guard flashes at him.

who in the hell runs offense like that anymore?
it's not the 90s anymore.
he's not even the right player to be doing that.

last year i thought Doc told him he wants him facing up more.
HOW IN THE HELL did we go from that to backing down 7 footers?

The backing down stuff is really annoying, just slowing down the pace, so stagnant, and he isn't even optimally effective doing post ups from 12 feet.

I don't mind the jumpshots, but it is too much.

5 games so far:
40.2% FGA 16-23 feet
22.7% FGA 0-3 feet

Last season:
26.7% FGA 16-23 feet
40.7% FGA 0-3 feet

Career:
22.1% FGA 16-23 feet
40.4% FGA 0-3 feet

He can't switch his inside attempts with his long jumpshot attempts, what is he, LaMarcus Aldridge?

work with me here.

I agree. I want him going to the cup at the same clip he did last year. But according to bball ref, he's hitting the 16-23 footer really well. So I'm not arguing that point.

I'm not giving him an excuse to keep shooting. I'm just saying, it truly is not annoying me right now.
What annoys me are the times the ball dies in his hands.

our offense isn't clicking and it doesnt look fluid. so more or less, those open shots aren't what drives me up a wall. It's the possession where the clock is dwindling and he's dribbling, then the guard flares at him, then he passes it out and then there's 4 secs left on the 24.

i want him to shoot 22% of the time like usual. That means, make an adjustment. go to the hole more.
but...
I NEVER want him backing 7 footers down in the post.

[og15]

I agree, I don't know why they went back to all this backing down, especially from so far out. He sees the floor much better facing up and he's just more effective. Need to adjust those tendencies as the season progresses.

[Wammy Giveaway]

First, it was the dunking criticism. "All he can do is dunk."

Now, he has the shooting criticism. "All he can do is jump shoot."

Blake Griffin cannot be exclusively one thing or the other. A true superstar has to have a balanced offense. He needs to do both. If he can get to the basket for a highlight reel dunk, whether it be lobs or self-made, take it. If he's in the post, work the spot to get a lay up or hook shot. If he's stuck in the mid-range or beyond the 3-point line, jump shoot. Now that his jump shot is nearly developed, it's as if Griffin no longer wants to be known as a pure dunker.

He needs to realize that it's not always about proving people wrong. All that manners is winning. He needs to remember what winning is about and not what winning is made of.

[Neddy]

hey Im not worried that much.

#1, for JJ to shoot this bad, this early in the season so uncharacteristically, only means he is due to have the opposite swing coming his way. I look forward to his 10 for 14 shooting nights with 5-6 3 points. I only hope that i start him that night.

#2, maybe, just maybe, the coaches are working on Blake to establish his jumper early in the season to have the league recognize that he is now a capable shooter, to respect it and to step up closer to guard that shot so blake can use that in the future to face up, pump fake to draw in the defense, then drive in? just a wild guess.

#3. no way Blake continues to hover around 24% from 3 feet and in for the rest of the season. things will even out.

now for my 2 cents on the criticism. we can use some Udoh - Griffin front line when DJ is in foul trouble. Hawes is a very good player but when Blake and Hawes are on the floor together, we get no interior defense. I think when you need a defensive presence and DJ isn't available, the poor man's DJ isn't a bad option over a guy who is all offense and no defense.

and for pete's sake, come on Blake, at least do your share of defensive rebounding. it comes your way when you box out. instead of trying to be like Lebron, I feel like Blake is trying to be the next Melo. it all starts with the D.

[Quake Griffin]

“I need to do a better job of mixing up and attacking more, not settling for jump shots,” said Blake Griffin.

hope this can be the end of this.
everybody good?


let's move forward.

[LACtdom]

“I need to do a better job of mixing up and attacking more, not settling for jump shots,” said Blake Griffin.

hope this can be the end of this.
everybody good?


let's move forward.

"We're not concerned at all. We will be more than ready when the season starts" - Doc Rivers.
Don't believe everything you hear.

[MartinToVaught]

“I need to do a better job of mixing up and attacking more, not settling for jump shots,” said Blake Griffin.

hope this can be the end of this.
everybody good?


let's move forward.

I'll "move forward" when I see Blake getting back to playing like DRob instead of trying to be Melo.

[Neddy]

“I need to do a better job of mixing up and attacking more, not settling for jump shots,” said Blake Griffin.

hope this can be the end of this.
everybody good?


let's move forward.

I'll "move forward" when I see Blake getting back to playing like DRob instead of trying to be Melo.

well first of all, I am glad that you have what it takes not to tail off or stand down. I always hate to see a new poster come around, then disappear for good after their first conflict with someone. good for you, and good for us. I am looking forward to the years, decades, and even maybe a lifetime of clipper chat with you and all other fellow nation members in realGM.

secondly, when you say DRob, you mean the Admiral? it's not fair to compare the two IMO. David Robinson was much more mature coming out of "da" Academy and was older, disciplined by the best in the nation. Blake is still a young man in modern times who is finding his own way, but mostly their size, length, and their game, their position aren't the same. IF i assumed a wrong DRob, pardon me and please correct it.

lastly, I do have to agree that Melo is the last NBA player Blake should copy his game from. Melo is a loser who doesn't play defense and is a volume shooter who could involve his teammates more. Blake running into Melo at team USA a couple of year ago, I am not sure yet whether it was a blessing or a curse.

BTW, I never liked Malone but respected his game. i hate the comparison of CP3 and Blake being the next Stockton and Malone, because that means we are always going to be the bride's maid and never the bride. however, I don't think that Utah team ever had as much supporting case that we may have, with DJ and Redick, as well as Crawford and Howes coming off the bench.

[MartinToVaught]

There's more of the Admiral in Blake's game than you'd think, IMO. Robinson was extremely athletic for a big man, he could pass the ball, and his face-up game was lethal. Sound like anyone we know?

Blake and Robinson even got the same bad rap for being "soft" and "not having a post game." And they were both unanimous rookies of the year. Doc actually compared him to DRob during his rookie year after his Celtics played us.

Unfortunately, the comparisons stop at offense. DRob was a great defender and especially an amazing shotblocker, both things that can't be said about Blake even on his best days.

[Clemenza]

Think I just saw a tweet where Blake said he's going to get into the post more

[Quake Griffin]

“I need to do a better job of mixing up and attacking more, not settling for jump shots,” said Blake Griffin.

hope this can be the end of this.
everybody good?


let's move forward.

I'll "move forward" when I see Blake getting back to playing like DRob instead of trying to be Melo.

well first of all, I am glad that you have what it takes not to tail off or stand down. I always hate to see a new poster come around, then disappear for good after their first conflict with someone. good for you, and good for us. I am looking forward to the years, decades, and even maybe a lifetime of clipper chat with you and all other fellow nation members in realGM.

secondly, when you say DRob, you mean the Admiral? it's not fair to compare the two IMO. David Robinson was much more mature coming out of "da" Academy and was older, disciplined by the best in the nation. Blake is still a young man in modern times who is finding his own way, but mostly their size, length, and their game, their position aren't the same. IF i assumed a wrong DRob, pardon me and please correct it.

lastly, I do have to agree that Melo is the last NBA player Blake should copy his game from. Melo is a loser who doesn't play defense and is a volume shooter who could involve his teammates more. Blake running into Melo at team USA a couple of year ago, I am not sure yet whether it was a blessing or a curse.

BTW, I never liked Malone but respected his game. i hate the comparison of CP3 and Blake being the next Stockton and Malone, because that means we are always going to be the bride's maid and never the bride. however, I don't think that Utah team ever had as much supporting case that we may have, with DJ and Redick, as well as Crawford and Howes coming off the bench.

enabler.

[Wammy Giveaway]

Blake and Robinson even got the same bad rap for being "soft" and "not having a post game." And they were both unanimous rookies of the year. Doc actually compared him to DRob during his rookie year after his Celtics played us.

Robinson was actually tough. He got himself ejected from a game for punching Frank Brickowski of the Seattle Supersonics in the 3rd quarter. It was also his second career ejection. (Sonics beat the Spurs Nov. 25, 1995)

[Neddy]

I'll "move forward" when I see Blake getting back to playing like DRob instead of trying to be Melo.

well first of all, I am glad that you have what it takes not to tail off or stand down. I always hate to see a new poster come around, then disappear for good after their first conflict with someone. good for you, and good for us. I am looking forward to the years, decades, and even maybe a lifetime of clipper chat with you and all other fellow nation members in realGM.

secondly, when you say DRob, you mean the Admiral? it's not fair to compare the two IMO. David Robinson was much more mature coming out of "da" Academy and was older, disciplined by the best in the nation. Blake is still a young man in modern times who is finding his own way, but mostly their size, length, and their game, their position aren't the same. IF i assumed a wrong DRob, pardon me and please correct it.

lastly, I do have to agree that Melo is the last NBA player Blake should copy his game from. Melo is a loser who doesn't play defense and is a volume shooter who could involve his teammates more. Blake running into Melo at team USA a couple of year ago, I am not sure yet whether it was a blessing or a curse.

BTW, I never liked Malone but respected his game. i hate the comparison of CP3 and Blake being the next Stockton and Malone, because that means we are always going to be the bride's maid and never the bride. however, I don't think that Utah team ever had as much supporting case that we may have, with DJ and Redick, as well as Crawford and Howes coming off the bench.

enabler.

make your game thread!!!! it's tomorrow!!!!