Is melo hurt or something

[Thugger HBC]

Phil didn't though. Phil isn't spending 4 years waiting on some Bynum when he's only here for 5.

Idk about that fam, I do think his eyes are set a few years away. He wont admit to deliberate tanking, but he knows this squad is nowhere near competing which in essence is tanking.

Even using Bynum, Bynum was starting decently in year 2, dominant by year 3....I wouldnt be so sure Phil isnt willing to take that risk at the expense of this season. the cap space is always there until he spends it.

I think this season is a placeholder regardless.

I'm just saying that I don't think Phil is choosing a rookie over a proven vet at the same position if given the choice.

Idk, Phil wanted desperately to get in this past draft, and has mentioned he may spread the money to build the roster. I'd even go as far as thinking Phil may have a player in mind in the draft now.

This guy may be the pick......

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_U_k1X4irQ[/youtube]

Sorry for the derail OP, but I dont think there's anything physically wrong with Melo.

[GYK]

Just missing shots. He's missing put backs and even some of the few open shots he's had.
The defense focuses on him the same way it always has, he's just missing.
Also no post ups, immediately being doubled
He's not taking bad shots. Read through the game thread not many "bad shot Melo" post


Edit: above yea Towns over Okafor. But I think Mudiay better for win now

[Sark]

Tank because we're 2-4? Can someone who watched the game tonight give an actual evaluation of why carmelo shot 5-20? Is he visibly hurt in anyway, or is it just our yet again complete lack of PG play?

He is running Woodson offense. Taking shots with 4 players draped over him, giving no single fcks all game.

[Besart19]

Three are the possibilities:

1) Leading the Tank (If Phil and Fish have given the order and green-light)
2) Injured, but forces himself to play (he has done that many times before)
3) He just doesnt care anymore (which can not be true for many reasons)...


PS: 4) No Jose, Prigs and Bargs (which means no offense and brain out there)

[JBreezeNY]

Idk about that fam, I do think his eyes are set a few years away. He wont admit to deliberate tanking, but he knows this squad is nowhere near competing which in essence is tanking.

Even using Bynum, Bynum was starting decently in year 2, dominant by year 3....I wouldnt be so sure Phil isnt willing to take that risk at the expense of this season. the cap space is always there until he spends it.

I think this season is a placeholder regardless.

I'm just saying that I don't think Phil is choosing a rookie over a proven vet at the same position if given the choice.

Idk, Phil wanted desperately to get in this past draft, and has mentioned he may spread the money to build the roster. I'd even go as far as thinking Phil may have a player in mind in the draft now.

This guy may be the pick......

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_U_k1X4irQ[/youtube]

Sorry for the derail OP, but I dont think there's anything physically wrong with Melo.

I wanna thank Moo for showing me the light.

Towns>>>>>>>>Okafor

I'll be sitting real nice if we got Mudiay but that boy Towns is gonna be something special, he has that Tim Duncan demeanor.

[Boarder Patrol]

Melo is fine. He's had some bad games, luckily there are 82 of them in a season, not six.

If Melo is healthy, we are going for the playoffs whether that's good or bad. Those suggesting we are or plan on tanking with a healthy Melo are terribly ignorant. If Melo is hurt (shoulder), then yes, we should go full on Abrams super tank mode.

This season is, also, in large part for installing the triangle offense and seeing which role players are worth keeping for the long haul. It's been successful so far in that regard, it's not near perfect but we're executing our offense slightly better each game (I'm talking about the movement, spacing, passes, not necessarily taking, and making the shots. That will come with time).

On one hand, Phil came here to be competitive and try to win. On the other, he understands that it's a process, that there will be bumps in the road (a lot of them), and that this season is largely evaluative before he can make a splash in 2015, or at the trade deadline with an eye for the future.

For now, all we need to expect is hustle, defensive energy and a full-hearted attempt at mastering the offense from our guys. If we don't get those, then we've got some problems.

Rome wasn't built in a day. This team won't be built in a season, probably even two. But for now, I have trust in Phil and the guys he's hired on the bench (just look at who they're replacing for God sakes and tell me that they at a minimum won't be a substantial upgrade). As a fan for the next couple of year's, our job is extremely easy and extremely frustrating. We're going to have to watch a LOT of struggling, but on the other we just need to sit back and watch the process unfold. You can bet your house that guys are going to be held accountable - whether that be benching, not being brought back, whatever - for what they're doing out on the court.

Essay over. Christ, I need to sleep.

[MrProb]

There's no way Melo is agreeing on Tanking.

And this is the first time in my life seeing Melo struggles more than 3 games he never played bad more than 2 games in a row.

[Moose]

HGH. 30. Got paid. Hurt.

Go to a crafts store, create a paper wheel, and take a spin.

The team is struggling and learning a new offense. I think after 2-3 weeks, odds are we will forget about these few bad games by melo...

...but the team will probably still suck.

[JBreezeNY]

There's no way Melo is agreeing on Tanking.

And this is the first time in my life seeing Melo struggles more than 3 games he never played bad more than 2 games in a row.

Didn't he have a stretch of terrible games back in 2012?

[Thugger HBC]

There's no way Melo is agreeing on Tanking.

And this is the first time in my life seeing Melo struggles more than 3 games he never played bad more than 2 games in a row.

Didn't he have a stretch of terrible games back in 2012?

I charged that one to his hamstring he was playing hurt with.

[MetaKnick13]

He is hurt. He bought into the idea that his team would be decent this year, but they aren't.

[BodyCount]

Can't teach old horse new tricks. Once a ball hog, always a ball hog.

[wully834]

we shouldnt be worrying until the 20th game if we like 6-14 which i doubt . melo gonna bounce back hes in a funk right now .

[IlMagonellaMela]

PS: 4) No Jose, Prigs and Bargs (which means no offense and brain out there)

+1

[N8isScofield]

The only criticism I have of Melo is that he really is completely worthless when he's not shooting well. His rebounding suffers a bit and he really doesn't contribute a whole lot otherwise. Most of the truly great players of recent times would step up some other aspect of their game when their shot wasn't falling. If MJ was off he'd just bear down even more on defense and facilitate and rebound even more. Even Kobe would step up his defensive intensity and try to make another pass or 2. Melo just doesn't seem to have anything to fall back on or if he does, he lets his shooting struggles impact the rest of his game rather than doing something else to help the team win.

[prophet_of_rage]

Are people blaming the lack of pg play in a triangle offence where the pg is deemphasised? Melo is taking contested midrange jumpers. He is missing contested jumpers. He is also pressing his shots.

We all lampooned Chuck and Reggie for saying "more isolation" and not knowing that the triangle produced isolation opportunities. Sure, it does and Melo is taking full advantage.

[NoStatsGuy]

Tank because we're 2-4? Can someone who watched the game tonight give an actual evaluation of why carmelo shot 5-20? Is he visibly hurt in anyway, or is it just our yet again complete lack of PG play?

this imo.

once jose comes back and the offense has rythm. we will be okay

[Isiahthomass]

Everyone looks really tentative at times, and I think Melo looks like he's not sure when to iso and when to go with the triangle. The 2 wins versus the Cavs and the Horcats give me hope that they'll figure it all out, hopefully with a healthy Calderon.

[Nazrmohamed]

The team needs an all world big man...it's easier to draft one than to sign one.

Melo is on board with the tank, he's had several calls with Kobe, and watched the Lakers draft their big who helped them win titles before his knees threw up the deuces.

Draft the big, sign some better role players....enjoy a better matched fight.

Until then.....embrace it.

I've rarely heard of a rookie big that can truly be the changing force of a team. I've heard of a third yr big, maybe sophomore big. But no rookie is gonna come in and solve problems so we need free agency. But don't let that deter you from staffing one. We're not gonna be bad enough to be in the okifor race but there are a few bigs in this draft that we could draft, play behind the C we pick up and in year 3 be ready to take over.

[xsaberx]

Tank because we're 2-4? Can someone who watched the game tonight give an actual evaluation of why carmelo shot 5-20? Is he visibly hurt in anyway, or is it just our yet again complete lack of PG play?

He is running Woodson offense. Taking shots with 4 players draped over him, giving no single fcks all game.

It is true. he looked like he was trying to get his, and wasn't passing when he was double or triple teamed. He seemed to get into something with Joe Johnson, like a personal competition. Same happened with peepee in the Wizards game. He starts forcing and then missing and the team slides. Yes the team isn't so good, but honestly they have looked better the past few games when Melo has been sitting. He's not just missing shots.