NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 2

[FreeBalling]

Irving played 45 minutes without an assist.

Yes. Love is a free agent next year. Lebron can also opt out.

Lebron is probably so much of an egomaniac that he'd leave Cleveland again (I still doubt it though). Love, on the other hand, has no ties to the area, and I could certainly see him going to another team. Heck, he'd be a great fit in the Triangle with the Knicks, or as I said earlier, the Spurs could sneakily sign him.

Love could pull a Howard. Gasol and Love to NY ? Phil becomes Emperor of NY ?

Man that would be nasty for CLE. But all this is way to early to call.

Love could be Boozer 2.0. I love it.

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[tontoz]

McLemore is starting to look like a bust. I think Dat called that pre-draft..

[Kanyewest]

McLemore is starting to look like a bust. I think Dat called that pre-draft..

Looks like Nick Young 2.0 tonight but not terrible- 5 of 8 from the field with 13 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists. Stauskus with 0 points, 1 assist, and 1 turnover.

[tontoz]

McLemore is starting to look like a bust. I think Dat called that pre-draft..

Looks like Nick Young 2.0 tonight but not terrible- 5 of 8 from the field with 13 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists. Stauskus with 0 points, 1 assist, and 1 turnover.

I didn't even notice what he was doing today lol. I was just curious about his overall stats since i haven't been following him.

Roughly half his shots are 3s and he doesn't get to the foul line. Looks like just a catch and shoot player. Even Nick could create space for his jumper off the dribble.

[jangles86]

Charlotte have been a bit of a disappointment so far. Would Jordan blow this team up at the all star break if they were a fair way off the pace?

[Kanyewest]

Charlotte have been a bit of a disappointment so far. Would Jordan blow this team up at the all star break if they were a fair way off the pace?

They are losing to the Lakers right now but they did beat the Hawks and the Heat. In order for MJ to blow it up, they would have to be out of playoff contention in the East by the time the trade deadline rolls around which would be tough to do IMO.

[Bigwig]

The Spurs wouldn't make the playoffs if they started today; Lebron neither. What a bunch of scrubs.

[queridiculo]

The Spurs wouldn't make the playoffs if they started today; Lebron neither. What a bunch of scrubs.

At least the Spurs have a legitimate excuse, the same can't be said for the Cavaliers.

[Nivek]

The Spurs wouldn't make the playoffs if they started today; Lebron neither. What a bunch of scrubs.

At least the Spurs have a legitimate excuse, the same can't be said for the Cavaliers.

The Cavs aren't working yet, but it's such a TINY sample it's tough to reach any conclusions. I think it's unlikely that Lebron has gone from an MVP-level player to a decent starter level. Love will probably be better too. As will Irving. On the plus side, they've gotten nice contributions from Varejao and Tristan Thompson so far.

If I were running the Cavs, I might look into something like swapping Waiters for Martell Webster (if I was confident in Webster's back being okay). Of course, I'd probably trade Waiters for nearly anything because I don't think he's much good. Another alternative might be to see if I could get a big PG and let Irving play off the ball. Maybe Philly is serious about trading MCW?

[LyricalRico]

The Spurs wouldn't make the playoffs if they started today; Lebron neither. What a bunch of scrubs.

At least the Spurs have a legitimate excuse, the same can't be said for the Cavaliers.

The Cavs aren't working yet, but it's such a TINY sample it's tough to reach any conclusions. I think it's unlikely that Lebron has gone from an MVP-level player to a decent starter level. Love will probably be better too. As will Irving. On the plus side, they've gotten nice contributions from Varejao and Tristan Thompson so far.

If I were running the Cavs, I might look into something like swapping Waiters for Martell Webster (if I was confident in Webster's back being okay). Of course, I'd probably trade Waiters for nearly anything because I don't think he's much good. Another alternative might be to see if I could get a big PG and let Irving play off the ball. Maybe Philly is serious about trading MCW?

My first reaction is that they already have a big PG that can allow Rondo to play off the ball - LeBron. Although he has seemed unwilling to be that so far (apparently to prove a point). It'll be interesting to see how they resolve this.

On the other hand...Irving for Rondo?

(But seriously...Irving for Rondo?)

[Ruzious]

At least the Spurs have a legitimate excuse, the same can't be said for the Cavaliers.

The Cavs aren't working yet, but it's such a TINY sample it's tough to reach any conclusions. I think it's unlikely that Lebron has gone from an MVP-level player to a decent starter level. Love will probably be better too. As will Irving. On the plus side, they've gotten nice contributions from Varejao and Tristan Thompson so far.

If I were running the Cavs, I might look into something like swapping Waiters for Martell Webster (if I was confident in Webster's back being okay). Of course, I'd probably trade Waiters for nearly anything because I don't think he's much good. Another alternative might be to see if I could get a big PG and let Irving play off the ball. Maybe Philly is serious about trading MCW?

My first reaction is that they already have a big PG that can allow Rondo to play off the ball - LeBron. Although he has seemed unwilling to be that so far (apparently to prove a point). It'll be interesting to see how they resolve this.

On the other hand...Irving for Rondo?

(But seriously...Irving for Rondo?)

While I'm sure Rondo and Lebron would work well together, I think you ideally want pure shooters on the perimeter around Lebron. Then again, Wade wasn't a pure shooter, but... when you're as good as Wade, you can play with anyone. If they can get the egos worked out, Lebron and Irving will work out real well, imo.

[Nivek]

If I'm coaching a team Lebron is on, I want the ball in his hands as much as possible. He devours defensive attention, scores efficiently when he wants, and hits teammates who have gotten themselves open or in position to score. At least, that's what he's done so far in his career. If he's lost it...well, that's a much bigger problem. But, I doubt that's happened.

My thing about trading Waiters is that Waiters hasn't been much good. Barring a sudden and significant improvement, they'd be better off with Someone Else in that spot.

[AFM]

Waiters for the rights to Santorasky should do it.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Cavs aren't working yet, but it's such a TINY sample it's tough to reach any conclusions. I think it's unlikely that Lebron has gone from an MVP-level player to a decent starter level. Love will probably be better too. As will Irving. On the plus side, they've gotten nice contributions from Varejao and Tristan Thompson so far.

If I were running the Cavs, I might look into something like swapping Waiters for Martell Webster (if I was confident in Webster's back being okay). Of course, I'd probably trade Waiters for nearly anything because I don't think he's much good. Another alternative might be to see if I could get a big PG and let Irving play off the ball. Maybe Philly is serious about trading MCW?

My first reaction is that they already have a big PG that can allow Rondo to play off the ball - LeBron. Although he has seemed unwilling to be that so far (apparently to prove a point). It'll be interesting to see how they resolve this.

On the other hand...Irving for Rondo?

(But seriously...Irving for Rondo?)

While I'm sure Rondo and Lebron would work well together, I think you ideally want pure shooters on the perimeter around Lebron. Then again, Wade wasn't a pure shooter, but... when you're as good as Wade, you can play with anyone. If they can get the egos worked out, Lebron and Irving will work out real well, imo.

Speaking of Wade, he had 20 points with 10 assists in the Heat victory at Dallas. Deng scored 30. Bosh had another 20 and 10 game. The Heat are 5-2. They are better than I thought.

[Nivek]

Waiters for the rights to Santorasky should do it.

I think I might prefer to keep the rights to Satoransky.

[Ruzious]

CCJ, I think with Miami, it's all on - what kind of shape will Wade be in come playoffs time. As great as Bosh is playing, I can't see him and Deng as the 2 main guys of a conference champion. But I'm also surprised at how well they're playing now.

[Nivek]

Small Sample Size Theater is playing in Miami too. Early on, they're looking pretty good. It's a LONG season.

[AFM]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... in-lakers/

Sam Smith of Bulls.com:

It’s not going to get as much discussion during the season, but one of the biggest issues for the Cavs is that both LeBron James and Kevin Love own opt outs after this season. LeBron James basically cannot afford to go anywhere after his return to Cleveland. But watch out for Love. Indications are he will seriously consider the opt out and has his eyes on a return to Los Angeles, where he attended college and where the Lakers long have had him on their free agent wish list.

Would be hilarious if he left LBJ alone with Waiters and Irving

[closg00]

The Nets are doing quite well w/o Pierce. The Nets & Heat doing better than projected so-far.

[queridiculo]

What kills me about the Cavaliers is their insistence to play Lebron off the ball.

Why on earth wouldn't you play to your players strength and maximize their potential. Irving where he's most effective, playing on the wing, and Lebron as the primary ball handler where he can facilitate and find Love and Irving on the wings.

Marion still has enough juice to play x man in that scheme as a starter.

Irving, Lebron, Marion, sideshow bob and Love in a starting lineup would be tough to handle on both ends.

Why pacify Irving by playing him as a point guard, might as well entertain a Rondo swap at that point.


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