Hawks vs. Knicks part 2

[ATL Boy]

Did Teague get injured or something? Schroeder has more minutes, just looking at the box score.

Schroder got rewarded for his great play this season by getting some of Teague's minutes. He came in down the stretch and sealed us the win.

[ATLHawksfan21]

Did Teague get injured or something? Schroeder has more minutes, just looking at the box score.

Schroder got rewarded for his great play this season by getting some of Teague's minutes. He came in down the stretch and sealed us the win.

Im just glad that bud finally went with the hot hand instead of just playing the starting lineup no matter what.

Dennis is what 19 still? The potential of this kid is unreal. I cant wait to see what he looks like after another off-season of gaining some muscle.

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[PandaKidd]

Millsap did have some key rebounds down the stretch.

Thabo has to get a shooting rhythm going....

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[SBM]

Good to get first road win

[Hawk Eye]

Just finished watching the game off DVR. I'll get right to it..

The Glass

Still not a great night on the glass but definitely an improvement compared to any other game thus far.

The first half

The first half was sloppy & ugly by both teams. Seemed like all the plays were breaking down as well.

Schroeded & Teague

This one really caught my eye. I definitely never would have guessed that Schroeder would end the game with more minutes logged than Teague. Anyways, I believe Bud gave to many minutes to Schroeder this game. Sure he played great but early on he had 3-4 sloppy turnovers. I forgave him in the 4th quarter though. He really sealed the game in the end for us and that's a major confidence booster for him. Maybe Bud was just playing the hot hand in Schroeder or maybe Schroeder has Buds full trust now or maybe both lol. I also dont think a back court of Teague/Schroeder will work very well either. Both players need the ball in their hands to be truly effective.

Milsap

Milsap obviously struggled guarding Melo in the post tonight. If Melos jump shot had been falling more than the Knicks might have squeaked by with the W. On the plus side Paul might have finally found his shot. Did great at the FT line and went 3/3 from the arc. Let's hope he keeps it up!

Side Note: Will Brand, Bazemore, Muscala, and Jenkins ever recieve playing time?

[Skyhawk1]

Nice game by Dennis. It's hard to watch Horford play these days. He's so hesitant and rusty rushing everything. We've had a lot trouble with the Knicks, probably the most disjointed team in the league along with Philly. I'm a little surprised the Hawks still don't have an identity and play in spurts, good and bad ones, with no consistency whatsoever. Rebounding has haunted us for years, that hasn't changed.

[atlantabbq99]

Nice game by Dennis. It's hard to watch Horford play these days. He's so hesitant and rusty rushing everything. We've had a lot trouble with the Knicks, probably the most disjointed team in the league along with Philly. I'm a little surprised the Hawks still don't have an identity and play in spurts, good and bad ones, with no consistency whatsoever. Rebounding has haunted us for years, that hasn't changed.

Yes, as soon as Horford comes back, or if he ever comes back, that is when the Hawks can start competing for one of the top 3 spots in the east. if he keeps playing this way, the Hawks will only be competing for 7th or 8th spot in the east.

i miss the jab step then 15ft jump shot from Horford, or the running hook, or the consistent 10 rebounds per game from Horford.

[PandaKidd]

Horford looks rusty and rushing shots. Give it 20 games he was like this the first time he came back too

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[SBM]

Why should Horford get 30 games to work the kinks out while hurting the team, meanwhile Teague gets pulled when he was being effective in ways other than scoring?

[PandaKidd]

Why should Horford get 30 games to work the kinks out while hurting the team, meanwhile Teague gets pulled when he was being effective in ways other than scoring?

I dont think teague was BENCHED, i think Bud stuck with the hot hand. Remember we were coming off a triple OT, back to back and a travel game to NY.

Maybe DS was fresh.

Horford, who you going to pull for him? Bench Horford and play Muscala? LOL Even at 80% AH is still the best PF/C we have

[SBM]

Why should Horford get 30 games to work the kinks out while hurting the team, meanwhile Teague gets pulled when he was being effective in ways other than scoring?

I dont think teague was BENCHED, i think Bud stuck with the hot hand. Remember we were coming off a triple OT, back to back and a travel game to NY.

Maybe DS was fresh.

Horford, who you going to pull for him? Bench Horford and play Muscala? LOL Even at 80% AH is still the best PF/C we have

How do you know that? He has not played a minute. The next thing is just because someone is better overall that does not mean that someone else can not be better in certain areas like rebounding. Lastly, Dennis was not hot when he put him back in the game he had 4 points and 4 turnovers when he put him back in to finish the 4th.

[PandaKidd]

DS scored 12 of his 14 pts in the 4th quarter .

He was hot

And now we are talking about benching Horford for mike **** muscala.

Delusion has set in , after 6 games.



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[PandaKidd]

Rebounding was NEGLECTED for 2 straight years. You reap what you sow. We don't have 1 legit center.

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[atlantabbq99]

Why should Horford get 30 games to work the kinks out while hurting the team, meanwhile Teague gets pulled when he was being effective in ways other than scoring?

I dont think teague was BENCHED, i think Bud stuck with the hot hand. Remember we were coming off a triple OT, back to back and a travel game to NY.

Maybe DS was fresh.

Horford, who you going to pull for him? Bench Horford and play Muscala? LOL Even at 80% AH is still the best PF/C we have

That is true. its a typical Pops move, he will sit out a star like Parker or Manu in the 4th if a bench guy is feeling hot

[SBM]

Dennis was not hot before he put him back in the game in the 4th. Up until that point he had 4 points and 4 TO's. Very poor numbers for anyone else.

[D21]

That is true. its a typical Pops move, he will sit out a star like Parker or Manu in the 4th if a bench guy is feeling hot

Dennis was not hot before he put him back in the game in the 4th. Up until that point he had 4 points and 4 TO's. Very poor numbers for anyone else.

There is another point : you can search the hot player, but when nobody is really hot, you can also want the "hot team" player(s), the one that makes the team play at his best and better than opponent during this game, even if his personal stats are not that good at this moment.

Even if Dennis was not that good before the last minutes of the game, the team was playing good with him :
from 9-14 (4'18 left in the 1st)
to 36-34 (1'33 left before halftime) => +7

60-56 (3'30 left in the 3rd)
72-67 (7'39 left in the 4th) => +1 while making several TO's

73-71 (5'05 left)
87-80 (0'15 left before the last 4 FT's of Korver)

Each time Dennis was on the floor, ATL was better than NYK, which was not the case with Teague on this game.
Maybe another part of the answer...

[SBM]

That is true. its a typical Pops move, he will sit out a star like Parker or Manu in the 4th if a bench guy is feeling hot

Dennis was not hot before he put him back in the game in the 4th. Up until that point he had 4 points and 4 TO's. Very poor numbers for anyone else.

There is another point : you can search the hot player, but when nobody is really hot, you can also want the "hot team" player(s), the one that makes the team play at his best and better than opponent during this game, even if his personal stats are not that good at this moment.

Even if Dennis was not that good before the last minutes of the game, the team was playing good with him :
from 9-14 (4'18 left in the 1st)
to 36-34 (1'33 left before halftime) => +7

60-56 (3'30 left in the 3rd)
72-67 (7'39 left in the 4th) => +1 while making several TO's

73-71 (5'05 left)
87-80 (0'15 left before the last 4 FT's of Korver)

Each time Dennis was on the floor, ATL was better than NYK, which was not the case with Teague on this game.
Maybe another part of the answer...

No, you are reaching to try and make a case when you really don't have a case. The whole plus- thing can be very misleading and you can tell that from watching games.