OT: THE WALKING DEAD SEASON 5 (NO SPOILERS)

J9Starks3 · Post #301 » by **J9Starks3** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:33 pm

Last 2 episodes were understandably "set up" type episodes... but after the first 3, these just seemed so slow. I know it would be impossible to keep up the level of intensity of the first 3 episodes - the problem is, they focused on 2 people that most folks, including myself, really don't care too much about. Beth is just... well Beth. Abe isn't too bad, and I guess the symbolism of him ending up in the same situation as right before he met Eugene is clever... I just am not super attached to him.

I think the intensity should pick up again though as it looks like they'll be going to rescue Beth.

NYSPORTSNUCCA · Post #302 » by **NYSPORTSNUCCA** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:39 am

J9Starks3 wrote:Last 2 episodes were understandably "set up" type episodes... but after the first 3, these just seemed so slow. I know it would be impossible to keep up the level of intensity of the first 3 episodes - the problem is, they focused on 2 people that most folks, including myself, really don't care too much about. Beth is just... well Beth. Abe isn't too bad, and I guess the symbolism of him ending up in the same situation as right before he met Eugene is clever... I just am not super attached to him.

I think the intensity should pick up again though as it looks like they'll be going to rescue Beth.

Abraham at least had a goal that wasn't JUST survival. Other groups that we've seen. That's all it really was.., Gareth, The Govenor and so forth. He chose to live for a purpose and it wasn't to just keep running to one haven after another.

That's what we want to see. We want to see how other people are choosing to go forward. Abraham would've been less interesting he just chose to be another one of Rick's followers. "Let's just walk around and see if we can find food.......,". That should be what gets old before watching another faction trying to do something else.

Not to mention., Rick was in a coma when everything started. Abraham., had to deal with this from the beginning and he spent way more time alone and protecting others before Rick did.

This episode was well made.

J9Starks3 · Post #303 » by **J9Starks3** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:57 am

Not saying it wasn't well made, almost all their episodes are well made, its one of the better done shows on TV from top to bottom. Not saying Abraham's character isn't intriguing - just not as well developed yet, in my personal opinion, that makes it as interesting as the first 3 episodes, which were absolutely bad ass non stop action...

LakerLegend · Post #304 » by **LakerLegend** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:09 am

In the comics Eugene didn't make the reveal until they were in DC. I wonder if they will find another reason to go there or keep the storyline in Atlanta?

Meat · Post #305 » by **Meat** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:26 am

Lakerfan17 wrote:In the comics Eugene didn't make the reveal until they were in DC. I wonder if they will find another reason to go there or keep the storyline in Atlanta?

dc is still the smartest place to go to

NYSPORTSNUCCA · Post #306 » by **NYSPORTSNUCCA** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:23 am

All the comic books/graphic novels are at this point is source material. I'm noticing now that everyone ant their mother are reading comics and from the feedback I'm getting.., the show is only borrowing a little from them but is independent. They'd have to be because., they don't want everyone to know what's going on. This last episode rejuvenated my excitement for the show because I got to see what's going on pass Rick & crew. Geez. I love them.., don't get it twisted but c'mon. Abraham is getting "ass". You damn right. lol. That's not as important as food but.., ITS IMPORTANT!!!!

Stuff like that is necessary because., we don't want to completely lose the human side. You don't want the live people to actually become the Walking Dead. The name., The Walking Dead was starting to take on a new meaning to me. I was starting to see Rick & Crew as the Walking Dead also. Just wondering killing whatever.

Juggynaut · Post #307 » by **Juggynaut** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:49 am

I've been hating on the series since after season 1 but this season has actually been pretty good.

IMAN5 · Post #308 » by **IMAN5** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:04 pm

Decent episode, maybe I didn't enjoy it because the shock factor wasn't there since I knew Eugene's secret and could sense the episode was going to be the reveal.

HeartBreaking · Post #309 » by **HeartBreaking** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:15 am

If eugene wasn't a "scientist" would abraham let him watch himself banging suzie crabgrass?

Meat · Post #310 » by **Meat** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:20 am

HeartBreaking wrote:If eugene wasn't a "scientist" would abraham let him watch himself banging suzie crabgrass?

yes, he doesnt love her and eugene is harmless

thebuzzardman · Post #311 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:43 am

NYSPORTSNUCCA wrote:
J9Starks3 wrote:Last 2 episodes were understandably "set up" type episodes... but after the first 3, these just seemed so slow. I know it would be impossible to keep up the level of intensity of the first 3 episodes - the problem is, they focused on 2 people that most folks, including myself, really don't care too much about. Beth is just... well Beth. Abe isn't too bad, and I guess the symbolism of him ending up in the same situation as right before he met Eugene is clever... I just am not super attached to him.

I think the intensity should pick up again though as it looks like they'll be going to rescue Beth.

Abraham at least had a goal that wasn't JUST survival. Other groups that we've seen. That's all it really was.., Gareth, The Govenor and so forth. He chose to live for a purpose and it wasn't to just keep running to one haven after another.

That's what we want to see. We want to see how other people are choosing to go forward. Abraham would've been less interesting he just chose to be another one of Rick's followers. "Let's just walk around and see if we can find food.......,". That should be what gets old before watching another faction trying to do something else.

Not to mention., Rick was in a coma when everything started. Abraham., had to deal with this from the beginning and he spent way more time alone and protecting others before Rick did.

This episode was well made.

Hmm. Maybe you misread the intent of the show sometimes. To me, the crux of the show is what kind of moral/ethical decision someone makes in the situation, plus some sort of commentary on how society organizes itself - I see each of the living situations as some sort of analogy to human development; they were in the "hunter gather" mode in the trailer caravan, the villages tend to have some sort of charismatic/violent leader which seems to be like a medieval situation - serfs following the Duke/Lord, whatever.

Abraham was another character thrown in to explore moral choice. He wasn't that good a person, drove his wife away, got his family killed basically, had regrets, and seized on something "bigger than himself" to keep from going bat sh*t crazy. I think there is a reason they have him as an ex soldier - someone who wants to give himself a cause - not my opinion of why people might serve, just I see that as a choice the writers made.

To me, all this was clear enough in the graphic novel, but the whole moral thing stands out even more in the tv show. The two things that I recall from the graphic novel series (I last read it a year ago) is that every village situation seemed to get bigger and have a bigger maniac running it (which I took as a commentary on how societies developed - I'm sure the first kings were not ruling because they were great guys, but capable but violent men) and that, damn, no characters stick around but Rick, ultimately

ITGM · Post #312 » by **ITGM** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:01 am

Spoiler:

Come on, Walking Dead Writers... you can do better than that!

steamed hams · Post #313 » by **steamed hams** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:16 am

haven't watched yet. Was this another set up episode?

AllanHoustonFan · Post #314 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:23 am

sosallycanwait wrote:haven't watched yet. Was this another set up episode?

yup. Nothing happens until the last few minutes.

steamed hams · Post #315 » by **steamed hams** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:12 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
sosallycanwait wrote:haven't watched yet. Was this another set up episode?

yup. Nothing happens until the last few minutes.

Just watched it. Wow what a slow and crappy episode. I wonder why they have to waste an entire episode on establishing backstory that was totally unnecessary and from way back when. I knew they couldn't keep up with the first 3 good episodes.

NY2k1 · Post #316 » by **NY2k1** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:36 am

At least the next two episodes until the mid-season finale should get very interesting.

QueenzAllDay · Post #317 » by **QueenzAllDay** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:36 am

I liked the episode. It helped move the story and sets up whats to come perfectly in my opinion.

On a side note, does anyone else signs the "Everybody haaaates Chriiiis" when they see Noah? lol

Matty · Post #318 » by **Matty** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:51 am

Loved the episode, then again there's barely an episode I don't seem to enjoy, maybe its because I don't follow the comics?

Looks like next episode is going to be about hyping up the mid-season finale showdown.

HeartBreaking · Post #319 » by **HeartBreaking** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:36 pm

ITGM wrote:
Spoiler:
So Daryl doesn't save Carol because he sees a dude with a gun???

Come on, Walking Dead Writers... you can do better than that!

Well the dude explained to him that they will help with her injuries.

Post #320 » by **moocow007** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:59 pm

ITGM wrote:
Spoiler:
So Daryl doesn't save Carol because he sees a dude with a gun???

Come on, Walking Dead Writers... you can do better than that!

You mean...

Spoiler:

Still it was an alright episode. Just imagine if they had the Scandal writers actually writing Walking Dead. Then we'd be onto some greatness. But right now it's basically a bunch of "eh, ok" writers writing a show that sells itself.