The Marvin Gaye Williams Thread

[catch20two]

I think we need a bruiser PF for defense, maybe Cody can get there one day?

Zeller isn't a bruiser but he hustles and play hard in the trenches. He would suit Big Al's weaknesses a lot better than Marv. Marv doesn't help any of Big Al's weaknesses, he's just there to try to strengthen Big Al's strengths and that's quite a joke if you ask me.

[LamarMatic7]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/531979016870572033[/tweet]

Hmmm thats not good

He's just playing his role. The only way he'll get to the free throw line is if someone fouls him shooting a 3 or a loose ball foul on a rebound when we're in the bonus. That stat doesn't concern me.

just wait for Rick to continuously update this stat (until Marv randomly gets a free throw) as if he's making some great big revelation or point.

[LamarMatic7]

I think we need a bruiser PF for defense, maybe Cody can get there one day?

Zeller isn't a bruiser but he hustles and play hard in the trenches. He would suit Big Al's weaknesses a lot better than Marv. Marv doesn't help any of Big Al's weaknesses, he's just there to try to strengthen Big Al's strengths and that's quite a joke if you ask me.

Yeah, I don't particularly see a need for someone who you would call a "bruiser" either. I think someone who can move around laterally is what you need besides a mostly stationary player like Al, and Cody has been pretty sharp at things like hedging and getting back to his man this season.

[Braggins]

Our starting power forward is the 6th leading rebounder on our team and has 1 block on the season. He is barely getting more rebounds than Gary Neal (4.1 to 3.6)

[catch20two]

I must admit that Messy Marv isn't that messy as a PF since he doesn't have to dribble but he's less productive and more useless than he was as a mediocre SF. Talk about a waste of 7 mil on a player that wasn't even worth half that to begin with. But #spacing!!!

[JDR720]

Marv's shooting stats
45.7% shooting, that is good enough
39.5% 3pt shooting, that is great
0 FT's which is bad

not really doing much else (3.3 rebounds, 1.2ast). just one TO and 1.8 fouls which is good

We paid Marv 14 million to stand around and shoot threes

Need to get Marv more involved in the offense he is just shooting 5.8 shots per game

[yosemiteben]

Marv's shooting stats
45.7% shooting, that is good enough
39.5% 3pt shooting, that is great
0 FT's which is bad

not really doing much else (3.3 rebounds, 1.2ast). just one TO and 1.8 fouls which is good

We paid Marv 14 million to stand around and shoot threes

Need to get Marv more involved in the offense he is just shooting 5.8 shots per game

To be honest, I'm glad he's at least doing the thing we brought him here to do well. I've been surprised at his defense as well.

With that said, completely agree that we need him to get more involved. Then again, that could be said for about every starter not named Al Jefferson.

[JDR720]

shot attempts per game

1- Al 18.5
2-Kemba 13.4
3-Lance 10.3
4-Neal 9.8
5- Pargo 6

everyone else has less than 6

We average 83.1 shots per game and Al is 22% of those shots

[TheKingofSting]

Where does Marv rank?

[LamarMatic7]

Where does Marv rank?

Marvin is 6th with 5.8 attempts (or 5th if we don't count Pargo).

[TheKingofSting]

I can't help wonder what he could average if he took 12 or more shots a game and some were midrange.

[LamarMatic7]

I can't help wonder what he could average if he took 12 or more shots a game and some were midrange.

I think that "wonder" is the right exact word for this situation since it won't happen. Marv's too passive to include himself on his own and our offense doesn't generate looks for others.

One thing I'll say though is that he's been surprisingly creative when he senses that the opponent is charging at him full head of steam and he fakes him out and makes a play off two or three dribbles. It happens like once per game though. I've been meaning to include it one of my blogs but it seems like too big of a foot-note for it to be worth of any value.

[Braggins]

I can't remember the last time I saw a starting PF that did so little. He certainly isn't the worst player that we've had in his spot because he really can shoot and he doesn't make many mistakes but he just contributes so little. Even though is a natural SF he doesn't have a good enough handle and he isn't quick enough to take PFs off the dribble. He has literally no post up game whatsoever and he can't finish at the rim against bigs. He doesn't make plays with his passing and he doesn't stand up defensively or rebound or block shots... It is really disappointing that our front office actually thought this guy was a legit starter...

[Radu_Hornets]

I can't remember the last time I saw a starting PF that did so little. He certainly isn't the worst player that we've had in his spot because he really can shoot and he doesn't make many mistakes but he just contributes so little. Even though is a natural SF he doesn't have a good enough handle and he isn't quick enough to take PFs off the dribble. He has literally no post up game whatsoever and he can't finish at the rim against bigs. He doesn't make plays with his passing and he doesn't stand up defensively or rebound or block shots... It is really disappointing that our front office actually thought this guy was a legit starter...

I do not agree with that... It's just because he does not drive the basket often enough, but the few times I saw him drive the basket he took his man off the dribble. However I agree with the fact that he doesn't look a good finisher at the rim.

[BlackOutBuzz]

14 games, 354 minutes, 0 free throw attempts. His last attempt was 7.5 months ago.

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[LamarMatic7]

14 games, 354 minutes, 0 free throw attempts. His last attempt was 7.5 months ago.

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Yesterday it felt like he was in a position where the Heat would foul him in the fast break. I was disgusted that it didn't happen and we'll have to endure Bonnell repeatedly tweeting about this in the future.

Then again nothing stops him from tweeting "768 minutes and only 2 free throws"

[EwingSweatsALot]

To add on to Lamar's searches in this thread and the Game Thread for tonight.

Marvin has played 15 games since his last free throw, dating back to last year.

He has played at least 7 minutes in those games. The longest streak of playing 7 minutes and not shooting a free throw is 24 games by Shane Battier in the '13-'14 season. Marvin's streak is 16th on the list.

This season he has played at least 14 minutes in each game. So that is 14 games of 14 minutes and 0 free throws. The longest streak for this is 19 games by Shawn Marion in the '13-'14 season. Marvin is 5th on this list.

[LamarMatic7]

To add on to Lamar's searches in this thread and the Game Thread for tonight.

Marvin has played 15 games since his last free throw, dating back to last year.

He has played at least 7 minutes in those games. The longest streak of playing 7 minutes and not shooting a free throw is 24 games by Shane Battier in the '13-'14 season. Marvin's streak is 16th on the list.

This season he has played at least 14 minutes in each game. So that is 14 games of 14 minutes and 0 free throws. The longest streak for this is 19 games by Shawn Marion in the '13-'14 season. Marvin is 5th on this list.

Damn it.

I've made a mistake somewhere. Don't know how, but Battier didn't show up in my search when I supposedly had the right filters.

24 games at 19.4mpg should grant him a spot high on my list.

Thanks, ESAL. You've saved me from posting false information if I do indeed do this as a fun part of the next blog.

[JDR720]

Marvin is going to shoot a FT today i think..

I have no reason to think this, but its something to look forward to i guess?

[LamarMatic7]

Marvin is going to shoot a FT today i think..

I have no reason to think this, but its something to look forward to i guess?

hell yeah! we should root for this to happen

time for some true Lolcats "things to watch for" during every game.