Knicks Vs. Magic PG Discomfiture

[j4remi]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA · 2h 2 hours ago
Knicks on pace for lowest free throw/field-goal attempt ratio in league history: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... er_by=wins …

We need to, whenever are roster is complete, make our offense isn't functioning as it is...where the best available shot is always a mid range jumper. Just bails the defense out every freaking play.

Like I said in the game thread yesterday -- we are a jump shooting team without any consistent shooters. The thing is, we have nobody really who can get to the FT line on a consistent basis besides Melo...we're **** either way. You're 100% right though that the jumper bails the defense out. We at least need to put pressure on them by attacking. Not only will it open up the mid range jumper and other shots, but it will put the onus on the refs to call a foul.

What's our fast break scoring look like? I think pushing the pace with the younger guys in (Larkin, THJ and Shump specifically) could both improve our FGA's and FTA's.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA · 2h 2 hours ago
Knicks on pace for lowest free throw/field-goal attempt ratio in league history: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... er_by=wins …

We need to, whenever are roster is complete, make our offense isn't functioning as it is...where the best available shot is always a mid range jumper. Just bails the defense out every freaking play.

Like I said in the game thread yesterday -- we are a jump shooting team without any consistent shooters. The thing is, we have nobody really who can get to the FT line on a consistent basis besides Melo...we're **** either way. You're 100% right though that the jumper bails the defense out. We at least need to put pressure on them by attacking. Not only will it open up the mid range jumper and other shots, but it will put the onus on the refs to call a foul.

What's our fast break scoring look like? I think pushing the pace with the younger guys in (Larkin, THJ and Shump specifically) could both improve our FGA's and FTA's.

On the rare occasions we actually push the ball, it seems like we get open shots (or at least better looks).

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/fa ... s-per-game

3rd worst in the league. No surprise there.

I still remember one of the assistant coaches saying we are playing like robots trying to fit into the triangle. Completely agree. Pushing the pace will do everything you said, will help us get into a flow offensively, and it won't allow the defense to set up. There's no reason why we can't push the pace a little, run either a fast break or secondary break, and then go to the triangle.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Playing like robots is the perfect description of what I'm seeing.

[Capn'O]

To simplify, if you didn't come into this season saying "we need to tank for a top pick" ...then 9 games into the season you really should just be patient. I keep mentioning the variables because I feel like it should be obvious but

New Coach
New System
New Management
Missing 2 projected Starters
Tough opening schedule

...If you didn't see this coming, I'm a little bit confused. My optimistic projection was 4 wins in the first 10 games and I knew that was a reach.

I was pretty optimistic until Jose went down. You just can't organize a young team of essentially hustle players and kinda dumb vets without a lead guard that knows where to be and what to do. When Jose went down, I figured we'd be lucky to be at .300 after 10 games and here we are.

Regarding the injuries - the word from management appears to be "Take your time, don't rush back. Seriously, take AS MUCH as you need."

[knickabocker88]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA · 2h 2 hours ago
Knicks on pace for lowest free throw/field-goal attempt ratio in league history: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... er_by=wins …

We need to, whenever are roster is complete, make our offense isn't functioning as it is...where the best available shot is always a mid range jumper. Just bails the defense out every freaking play.

Like I said in the game thread yesterday -- we are a jump shooting team without any consistent shooters. The thing is, we have nobody really who can get to the FT line on a consistent basis besides Melo...we're **** either way. You're 100% right though that the jumper bails the defense out. We at least need to put pressure on them by attacking. Not only will it open up the mid range jumper and other shots, but it will put the onus on the refs to call a foul.

Anthony needs to attack more and settle for 3's less. Puts pressure on the defense, gets them into foul trouble and slows down the opposing teams defense and energy.

He needs to Attack More and Settle less for contested 2's

Boggles my mind how many times, Melo has a 1st step on a defender and inexplicably pulls up

[Deeeez Knicks]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA · 2h 2 hours ago
Knicks on pace for lowest free throw/field-goal attempt ratio in league history: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... er_by=wins …

We need to, whenever are roster is complete, make our offense isn't functioning as it is...where the best available shot is always a mid range jumper. Just bails the defense out every freaking play.

lets go for the record

[Knicks_Fan2]

Everyone on the team is settling for contested 2s. Why wouldn't any defense (remember indiana in the playoffs) let us take that garbage all day long, especially when the Jason Smith's of the world are taking them?

[NBA Fan 1234]

Like I said in the game thread yesterday -- we are a jump shooting team without any consistent shooters. The thing is, we have nobody really who can get to the FT line on a consistent basis besides Melo...we're **** either way. You're 100% right though that the jumper bails the defense out. We at least need to put pressure on them by attacking. Not only will it open up the mid range jumper and other shots, but it will put the onus on the refs to call a foul.

Anthony needs to attack more and settle for 3's less. Puts pressure on the defense, gets them into foul trouble and slows down the opposing teams defense and energy.

He needs to Attack More and Settle less for contested 2's

Boggles my mind how many times, Melo has a 1st step on a defender and inexplicably pulls up

Happened twice off the top of my head with under 6 minutes left (I think with under 4, actually). Melo playing PF and has Frye on him. What does he do? Mid range jumper. Went 1-2...but still...c'mon dude.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Everyone on the team is settling for contested 2s. Why wouldn't any defense (remember indiana in the playoffs) let us take that garbage all day long, especially when the Jason Smith's of the world are taking them?

Jason Smith's jumpers are more or less uncontested though and come off a basic pick and pop. I have no issue with him taking them (especially considering he's not a driver and can't do anything else offensively). It's just our guards taking them all the time that bothers me.

[Capn'O]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA · 2h 2 hours ago
Knicks on pace for lowest free throw/field-goal attempt ratio in league history: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... er_by=wins …

We need to, whenever are roster is complete, make our offense isn't functioning as it is...where the best available shot is always a mid range jumper. Just bails the defense out every freaking play.

And just as an FYI...both the Bulls and the Lakers championship teams were among the league leaders (highest) in free throw/field-goal attempts. So it's not "normal" for the Triangle if anyone is wondering.

So you're telling me it might be rash to post that the triangle has been EXPOSED as a response to that post?

[emo]

[Bklyn&company]

And is it just me or is Kurt Rambis a little too happy about the Knicks struggles? Just hearing him being interviewed, it's odd. I don't trust him one bit.

Hell even Fish doesnt seem to phased. I really think Phil is gunning for a top 5 lottery pick. The roster he built this off season IS indeed conducive for that idc what anyone says. We have a bunch of bum ass players plus melo..and one dimensional player.. Sounds like a very bad team to me.

Yea I notice this a couple of games ago, all the coaches seem a little too relax/happy. From Rambis smiling to Fisher constant sideline clapping (even calls against his own team). The only one I see distrub by the loosing is the assistant from OKC. Everyone else is smiley faced. I don't see the fire to win.

[nykballa2k4]

Everyone on the team is settling for contested 2s. Why wouldn't any defense (remember indiana in the playoffs) let us take that garbage all day long, especially when the Jason Smith's of the world are taking them?

Jason Smith is one of the best mid-range shooters in the league among big men.
He should be making them at the same rate we recall Kurt making them.
The problem is our players are missing wide open 2's.
We also are missing big ft's. We seem to choke on every big play. It's weird. Then again we are tanking so ...whatever lol

[Deeeez Knicks]

and for all the talk about our problems on offense our defense is even worse.

we probably have a better chance to fix our defense if we could make some changes....but thats if we even want to win.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Everyone on the team is settling for contested 2s. Why wouldn't any defense (remember indiana in the playoffs) let us take that garbage all day long, especially when the Jason Smith's of the world are taking them?

Jason Smith's jumpers are more or less uncontested though and come off a basic pick and pop. I have no issue with him taking them (especially considering he's not a driver and can't do anything else offensively). It's just our guards taking them all the time that bothers me.

It's not that he's making a mistake taking those shots ( and he is a decent shooter from that range) but I just cant help but thing teams building a defensive gameplan are perfectly fine with that and, for example, Dalembert doing whatever the hell he's doing.

[god shammgod]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Calderon hopes to hit the court next week: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9612410 …

[Capn'O]

by the way, for the tank brigade

we are currently the 4th worst team in the league above LAL, Den and Phili

only slightly worse than the likes of Utah, Orl, Mini and Det


I wonder if any tank commanders think we will realistically continue to be worse than Mini, Orl and Det


Den has to get better than they are, they have no excuse

plus they play us on Sun

It depends on how many injuries and "injuries" the team suffers.

I'm not a tank advocate per se. It's just what management very well may be doing.

[mpharris36]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Calderon hopes to hit the court next week: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9612410 …

sounds like he is still a month away

[Phish Tank]

Anthony needs to attack more and settle for 3's less. Puts pressure on the defense, gets them into foul trouble and slows down the opposing teams defense and energy.

He needs to Attack More and Settle less for contested 2's

Boggles my mind how many times, Melo has a 1st step on a defender and inexplicably pulls up

Happened twice off the top of my head with under 6 minutes left (I think with under 4, actually). Melo playing PF and has Frye on him. What does he do? Mid range jumper. Went 1-2...but still...c'mon dude.

that's where he's gotta stop being a puss and go back to bully ball and get to the line.

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA · 2h 2 hours ago
Knicks on pace for lowest free throw/field-goal attempt ratio in league history: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... er_by=wins …

We need to, whenever are roster is complete, make our offense isn't functioning as it is...where the best available shot is always a mid range jumper. Just bails the defense out every freaking play.

Clyde summed it up perfectly last night.. our guards are contend to just meander around the perimeter. They love to just dribble lackadaisically side to side and eventually hoist up hero J's. The best way for Phil to make it loud and clear that this BS is not acceptable is to get rid of the main culprit: JR Smith, who probably holds the record in all of league history for ratio of athleticism to FT attempts.

It's not about lack of talent. Shump and THJ are nice first steps and can get into the paint. But they're playing for a franchise that has basically carved out an identity over the past 15 years of being a haven for any player in the league that just wants to dribble aimlessly, jab step, and shoot jumpers. So it's not surprising they think it's OK to do the same.