Game 8 : 11/12 - Pacers @ Heat 7:30PM - ESPN

Post #941 » by **IggieCC** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:45 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:All this talk about needing a center, the one thing we need first and foremost is more effort. No boxing out means the other team's players get great position to rebound and that results into the mess we were in last night. Birdman is a big guy, but he's not the best rebounder because he doesn't box out and goes for the ball hard.

That's why I want to see McRob starting over Williams as soon as he's ready for starter mins. McRob isn't the best rebounder either, but I heard he boxes out pretty well, which should allow Bosh and others to collect more rebounds.

Williams isn't strong and tough enough to be a great box-out guy even if he tried.
All this high % shooting from him has been nice, and he was a great pick-up, but we don't wanna fall in love with his spacing ability because he doesn't really contribute in other areas that are important in winning games.. ball movement, boxing-out, help defense, all the intangibles indicate that McBob is a much superior player.

With the right personnel and the collective effort, I believe that we can be decent at rebounding.

Mugiwara · Post #942 » by **Mugiwara** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:51 pm

Williams will still look great with 2nd unit because he's a sniper.

Post #943 » by **DefenseWins** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:32 pm

McBob does box out, and he is the only one that does...

This team needs ugly, embarrassing loses to realize they need to box out. Smh. And guess what? They still won't, lol.

Maroko · Post #944 » by **Maroko** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:35 pm

Mugiwara wrote:Williams will still look great with 2nd unit because he's a sniper.

Cant answer to your PM Bro (i think you have disabled the possibility to write you a PM) and i did find what you were asking me :wink:

Mugiwara · Post #945 » by **Mugiwara** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:15 pm

Maroko wrote:
Mugiwara wrote:Williams will still look great with 2nd unit because he's a sniper.

Cant answer to your PM Bro (i think you have disabled the possibility to write you a PM) and i did find what you were asking me

Try now, dude :wink:

Post #946 » by **DefenseWins** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:28 pm

lol Dan Lebatard's dad, Papi, as he was leaving the game called him up and said "I'm embarrassed"

I_Never Lied · Post #947 » by **I_Never Lied** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:04 pm

DefenseWins wrote:
IggieCC wrote:
TRG wrote:This game just confirmed what we already knew heading into this season: our PGs suck and we have no interior rebounding/defense.

The worst part is that among Cole, Chalmers, and Napier, we are trotting at least 2 of them out there for the majority of the game like it's a brilliant idea. Like something we should be proud of and need sporting them to the world.

Hide them as much as possible man!

the 3 guard line up only works in Phoenix

everyone else trying to do it and it's sucking

I hate this phenom. Small ball is killing us. Spo usually gets a handle on things way before everyone else sees it so... hopefully in due time when we trade Cole or even Rio, we get big line ups.

Its not small ball, there are only but so many palyers on the roster. Who you gonna play instead?

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #948 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:22 pm

try a multi team trade and offload rio and cole.

Mugiwara · Post #949 » by **Mugiwara** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:47 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:try a multi team trade and offload rio and cole.

Koufos or Mozgov would be great.

WinisKing · Post #950 » by **WinisKing** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:32 pm

One of Hibbert's better days

SWadeUP · Post #951 » by **SWadeUP** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:34 pm

Damn I just want a rebounding Big. Also I will say, Bosh was out there playing like $hit vs Hibbert. Playing scared kinda.

cant have that.

dolphinatik · Post #952 » by **dolphinatik** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:59 pm

Im weirdly actually fine with Chalmers play. He had a good drive and layup a few moment earlier. He will learn not to go out of his way to create contact as that was a good offensive foul call on him. Totally not needed but he will learn from that.

Bosh needed to man up and play Hibbert straight up, put the pressure on him. Bosh is capable

we played small they played big and won. Same ole Heat Pacers when will Spo learn. Cant wait for the next game though against them to see if we have learned.

Pure_Basketball · Post #953 » by **Pure_Basketball** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:08 am

I'm still seething over this loss, why did we have to re-sign Chalmers Riley.......WHY!

Maroko · Post #954 » by **Maroko** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:45 am

Pure_Basketball wrote:I'm still seething over this loss, why did we have to re-sign Chalmers Riley.......WHY!

dr3am · Post #955 » by **dr3am** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:41 am

Still kinda salty about this loss. Man ughh

Post #956 » by **DefenseWins** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:59 am

dr3am wrote:Still kinda salty about this loss. Man ughh

Lmao, I notice with a LOT of people it's like that

I got over it but it took awhile. Usually I go to bed after a loss just fine and forget about it the next day. Sometimes I forget we even played lol. But I went to bed, fell asleep quickly, but I woke up being like... **** man last night was BAD lol.

Wade looked weird in the post game interview. He looked bummed out about the loss despite what he was saying.

Lets see how they bounce back today... on the road...

DWadeno3 · Post #957 » by **DWadeno3** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:24 am

DefenseWins wrote:
dr3am wrote:Still kinda salty about this loss. Man ughh

Lmao, I notice with a LOT of people it's like that

I got over it but it took awhile. Usually I go to bed after a loss just fine and forget about it the next day. Sometimes I forget we even played lol. But I went to bed, fell asleep quickly, but I woke up being like... **** man last night was BAD lol.

Wade looked weird in the post game interview. He looked bummed out about the loss despite what he was saying.

Lets see how they bounce back today... on the road...

Wade should look in the mirror if he wants to be pissed. Going 5/7 for 11 points in the 1st quarter only to attempt one shot in the 2nd and 3rd quarter while our offense is struggling mightily is unacceptable. Bosh was equally useless. When you don't have a rhythm offensively, try to impact the game in other ways such as rebounding the ball, which could've helped us a lot. Chalmers made boneheaded plays and a lot of others didn't play well, but you look at your two star players to pick up the slack. I hope this was a lesson for them as much as it was for the others. Despite Bosh not shooting the ball well, I wouldn't have had a problem with him and Wade attempting 20+ shots each. I usually like our team-oriented basketball, but sometimes you have to look at how the game goes and take a different approach.

Aussie Heat Fan · Post #958 » by **Aussie Heat Fan** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:40 pm

Maroko wrote:
Pure_Basketball wrote:I'm still seething over this loss, why did we have to re-sign Chalmers Riley.......WHY!

I am dead

dancing2thabeet · Post #959 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:46 pm

Lack of effort excuse is bull. If there was a possibility to fix our rebounding problem from within, we would have f*cking done it by now. We need a big boy in our front court. This really isn't science.

RexBoyWonder · Post #960 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:39 pm

Bird is very important for this team because of his skillset. When he's bad, it really hurt us. And he's been sucking.

Really wish Birch will show something in the Dleauge so we'll bring him back.

Napier or Cole should've closed this game.

Bosh Deng Rio and Spo all sucked, that's too much sucking to overcome.