Jazz@Knicks gamethread 11/14 7:30PM

[DaGawd]

Knicks are not tanking guys.
They are just a terrible team without Calderon and Bargnani in there. They can't score and the PG play has been atrocious.
If Calderon and Bargnani were fully healthy, we would be no worse then 4-4 right now.

Unfortunately both players are injury prone p******s and by the time they come back and get into NBA shape, the Knicks will be 10-15 games under .500

Which is great for us... as you said we are pretty mediocre even with those 2 healthy.. being mediocre isn't somewhere you want to be with an older team like we have. Better to just suck it up and completely fail this season imo. Get a great pick hopefully and decide if you like a player in the draft who can be a long term building block or use that pick in a trade to aquire a 2nd really good player to go alongside melo

[Retired_Doc]

Quite honestly, I'm not at all sure if they are tanking or not. And if they are, who told them to? PJax? Hmmmm, would he do such a thing?

[dakomish23]

Any word on Calderon? This is getting brutal

[GONYK]

Any word on Calderon? This is getting brutal

Expected to return to practice next week. We had too many games this week.

[dakomish23]

Any word on Calderon? This is getting brutal

Expected to return to practice next week. We had too many games this week.

Wasn't he supposed to start on Tuesday????! WTF is going on here?!!!!

[moocow007]

rudy gobert over under 13 rebounds?

Gobert is not the problem. It's Favors. The Knicks don't have any front court player that can stick with him. Favors is currently the man in Utah averaging a career high 16.3ppg on a career high 57% shooting from the field (something that most players don't hit career highs in at the same time). He's going to have a field day.

[moocow007]

Any word on Calderon? This is getting brutal

Expected to return to practice next week. We had too many games this week.

Wasn't he supposed to start on Tuesday????! WTF is going on here?!!!!

Over reliance of this during their medical training by the Knicks crack medical staff?

[blueNorange]

hope heyward has a triple double, just for I can get that warm fuzzy feeling inside.

that kid is too talented to play in Utah

[Fat Kat]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/utahjazz/status/533312451333197824[/tweet]

[AmazingJason]

Tanking or not, we should beat the Jazz easily. I've never even heard of half their players. It's Dante Exum and a bunch of scrubs to me.

WTF is Rodney Hood anyway? See? It's just another scrub...

[blueNorange]

Tanking or not, we should beat the Jazz easily. I've never even heard of half their players. It's Dante Exum and a bunch of scrubs to me.

WTF is Rodney Hood anyway? See? It's just another scrub...

I can name half their roster

kanter
favors
burks
heyward
a white guy
a black guy
a mormon
some guy we thought retired 5 years ago

[ag3]

Knicks are not tanking guys.
They are just a terrible team without Calderon and Bargnani in there. They can't score and the PG play has been atrocious.
If Calderon and Bargnani were fully healthy, we would be no worse then 4-4 right now.

Unfortunately both players are injury prone p******s and by the time they come back and get into NBA shape, the Knicks will be 10-15 games under .500

Which is great for us... as you said we are pretty mediocre even with those 2 healthy.. being mediocre isn't somewhere you want to be with an older team like we have. Better to just suck it up and completely fail this season imo. Get a great pick hopefully and decide if you like a player in the draft who can be a long term building block or use that pick in a trade to aquire a 2nd really good player to go alongside melo

Agree. But if they come back, get healthy and play around 60 games, the Knicks will be a decent team and the tank would be ruined.

Only reason we are 2-6 right now is because without calderon and Bargnani, we have no offense. Yes, the defense will hurt a little bit, but their offense would outweigh it on most nights.

A healthy and in shape starting lineup of:

Calderon
Shumpert
Carmelo
Bargnani
Dalembert

is not a tank team.

[Johnny Hoops]

Tanking or not, we should beat the Jazz easily. I've never even heard of half their players. It's Dante Exum and a bunch of scrubs to me.


WTF is Rodney Hood anyway? See? It's just another scrub...

Funny -- they are oozing with talent when compared to the Knicks.

[Yankeeknickfan]

Novak gonna drop 50 tonight with that 3 point defense of ours

[Johnny Hoops]

Novak gonna drop 50 tonight with that 3 point defense of ours

Yes - waits for Jason Smith to stand 5 feet away from Novak -- with hand reached high

[JBreezeNY]

Knicks are not tanking guys.
They are just a terrible team without Calderon and Bargnani in there. They can't score and the PG play has been atrocious.
If Calderon and Bargnani were fully healthy, we would be no worse then 4-4 right now.

Unfortunately both players are injury prone p******s and by the time they come back and get into NBA shape, the Knicks will be 10-15 games under .500

Which is great for us... as you said we are pretty mediocre even with those 2 healthy.. being mediocre isn't somewhere you want to be with an older team like we have. Better to just suck it up and completely fail this season imo. Get a great pick hopefully and decide if you like a player in the draft who can be a long term building block or use that pick in a trade to aquire a 2nd really good player to go alongside melo

Agree. But if they come back, get healthy and play around 60 games, the Knicks will be a decent team and the tank would be ruined.

Only reason we are 2-6 right now is because without calderon and Bargnani, we have no offense. Yes, the defense will hurt a little bit, but their offense would outweigh it on most nights.

A healthy and in shape starting lineup of:

Calderon
Shumpert
Carmelo
Bargnani
Dalembert

is not a tank team.

You don't think that's a tank team?

Nothing much left to say then.

[DaGawd]

Knicks are not tanking guys.
They are just a terrible team without Calderon and Bargnani in there. They can't score and the PG play has been atrocious.
If Calderon and Bargnani were fully healthy, we would be no worse then 4-4 right now.

Unfortunately both players are injury prone p******s and by the time they come back and get into NBA shape, the Knicks will be 10-15 games under .500

Which is great for us... as you said we are pretty mediocre even with those 2 healthy.. being mediocre isn't somewhere you want to be with an older team like we have. Better to just suck it up and completely fail this season imo. Get a great pick hopefully and decide if you like a player in the draft who can be a long term building block or use that pick in a trade to aquire a 2nd really good player to go alongside melo

Agree. But if they come back, get healthy and play around 60 games, the Knicks will be a decent team and the tank would be ruined.

Only reason we are 2-6 right now is because without calderon and Bargnani, we have no offense. Yes, the defense will hurt a little bit, but their offense would outweigh it on most nights.

A healthy and in shape starting lineup of:

Calderon
Shumpert
Carmelo
Bargnani
Dalembert

is not a tank team.

lol... I admire your optimism..But that's still a weak ass team.

[ag3]

Which is great for us... as you said we are pretty mediocre even with those 2 healthy.. being mediocre isn't somewhere you want to be with an older team like we have. Better to just suck it up and completely fail this season imo. Get a great pick hopefully and decide if you like a player in the draft who can be a long term building block or use that pick in a trade to aquire a 2nd really good player to go alongside melo

Agree. But if they come back, get healthy and play around 60 games, the Knicks will be a decent team and the tank would be ruined.

Only reason we are 2-6 right now is because without calderon and Bargnani, we have no offense. Yes, the defense will hurt a little bit, but their offense would outweigh it on most nights.

A healthy and in shape starting lineup of:

Calderon
Shumpert
Carmelo
Bargnani
Dalembert

is not a tank team.

You don't think that's a tank team?

Nothing much left to say then.

No. That's a 35-40 win team.

[nyjetsknicks420]

Agree. But if they come back, get healthy and play around 60 games, the Knicks will be a decent team and the tank would be ruined.

Only reason we are 2-6 right now is because without calderon and Bargnani, we have no offense. Yes, the defense will hurt a little bit, but their offense would outweigh it on most nights.

A healthy and in shape starting lineup of:

Calderon
Shumpert
Carmelo
Bargnani
Dalembert

is not a tank team.

You don't think that's a tank team?

Nothing much left to say then.

No. That's a 35-40 win team.

that's 25-30 win team

[berkkobe7]

Inform you guys that Enes Kanter shots %35 in 3 point shots. It's equivalent of %100 in MSG: