Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[Baddy Chuck]

this board just has a hard time letting go of whatever pet prospect they had leading up to the draft

Just as a lot of the board overvalues a lot of players for simply having on a Bucks jersey.

such as?

You could probably find an example for every single player that has previously been on the Bucks.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

the stauskas and Schroeder fetish on this board is frightening

People like talented young players, who woulda thought.

of course talent being relative and an eye of the beholder thing. which was more my point.

[Pedro Alexandre]

If Knight re-sign a contract around 8-10 million per year, I want him to continue with us. Brandon can be a great sixth man on our team.

If the claim is his highest values, I'd rather try to trade him at the deadline for picks.

I like Middleton and want him to stay with us.

Henson may have value to many teams, if Kidd take minutes for it to inflate their numbers.

[drew881]

What's the deal with James Young? Send to the D league and can't find a spot on Boston's team? They have kind of our issue with lots of depth of mediocre vet players. But you think that with the Marcus Smart injury they could shift players around and he would get minutes.

[paulpressey25]

You could probably find an example for every single player that has previously been on the Bucks.

Even David Noel had his supporters on here clamoring for minutes.

But that's ok. Part of being a fan.

[Thunder Muscle]

You could probably find an example for every single player that has previously been on the Bucks.

Even David Noel had his supporters on here clamoring for minutes.

But that's ok. Part of being a fan.

I remember people ready to kill Karl for not playing Gadzuric more his rookie year on that 02-03 squad. Usually we tend to fall in love with our 2nd round picks (initially) - Meeks, Lamb, Moute, Leuer, Sessions (first go around), and to a lesser extent Flip Murray.

[VooDoo7]

the stauskas and Schroeder fetish on this board is frightening

People like talented young players, who woulda thought.

of course talent being relative and an eye of the beholder thing. which was more my point.

Uh huh.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

People like talented young players, who woulda thought.

of course talent being relative and an eye of the beholder thing. which was more my point.

Uh huh.

18/7/6 @ 56ts%

lets not compare a guy whose doing work to stauskas, Schroeder, wolters, noel or whatever other nobody you want to bring into he discussion. it insults peoples intelligence(except for the guy who supporting the 22 yo near all star in comparison)

[Baddy Chuck]

I mean per 36 Schroder is putting up 18/6/64% TS%

What are your thoughts on Tony Wroten btw? Near allstar?

[BallinBucks420]

sikma what would it take for you to move knight... im with you on him i just dont understand how so many people here complain how bad he is... i just dont think hes a point guard but the man can flat out score the basketball and is young.. he makes stupid mistakes at time but the kid can flat out score and he plays hard..that last orlando game there was numerous time where he made payton look silly and got to the rack at will... i would have to get a early to mid 1st with a prospect to move knight... im willing to move middleton for any prospect or foreign guy with upside as i just dont think middleton is liked by kid

[BallinBucks420]

What's the deal with James Young? Send to the D league and can't find a spot on Boston's team? They have kind of our issue with lots of depth of mediocre vet players. But you think that with the Marcus Smart injury they could shift players around and he would get minutes.

i was thinking the same thing you would think he would get some minutes on that team

[VooDoo7]

sikma what would it take for you to move knight... im with you on him i just dont understand how so many people here complain how bad he is... i just dont think hes a point guard

You pretty much answered your own question.

People complain about him because he's a terrible PG. I think most agree he has skills, and works his tail off. He also seems like a good guy. So, people don't hate him the way they hated B. Jennings.

Put him at the 2. Bring him off the bench as a scoring punch, and people would be much happier.

Personally I think the blame needs to go on Kidd for continuing to start him, and play him at the 1.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

sikma what would it take for you to move knight... im with you on him i just dont understand how so many people here complain how bad he is... i just dont think hes a point guard but the man can flat out score the basketball and is young.. he makes stupid mistakes at time but the kid can flat out score and he plays hard..that last orlando game there was numerous time where he made payton look silly and got to the rack at will... i would have to get a early to mid 1st with a prospect to move knight... im willing to move middleton for any prospect or foreign guy with upside as i just dont think middleton is liked by kid

I don't care what he is. I don't really care what giannis or jabari are either. silly topic getting all bent about it. he can guard both guard spots so it doesn't really matter.

what would I move him for? a better player is the simple answer. hes a 22 yo athletic stat stuffer. im not dealing him for a project.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if we cant win with Brandon knight starting and putting up 18/7/6 on good efficiency then it means we don't have any other good players. this whole "he isn't a pg" conversation just gets on my nerves now. its irrelevant and not even worth discussion.

great offensive players don't have to play with ricky rubio or chris paul to be good. Jordon, kobe, barkley, LeBron, wade, etc, etc, etc, etc never had old school prototypical pgs next to them. the whole conversation is a crutch to defend other players on this team for not being ready to get the ball and do whatever they want with it yet.

[VooDoo7]

if we cant win with Brandon knight starting and putting up 18/7/6 on good efficiency then it means we don't have any other good players. this whole "he isn't a pg" conversation just gets on my nerves now. its irrelevant and not even worth discussion.

great offensive players don't have to play with ricky rubio or chris paul to be good. Jordon, kobe, barkley, LeBron, wade, etc, etc, etc, etc never had old school prototypical pgs next to them. the whole conversation is a crutch to defend other players on this team for not being ready to get the ball and do whatever they want with it yet.

But we don't have "Jordan, Kobe, Lebron".

A good PG absolutely helps an offense. And Knight is not one, period.

[TroyD92]

I think Knight's like Nick Young or Jamal Crawford.

[AussieBuck]

if we cant win with Brandon knight starting and putting up 18/7/6 on good efficiency then it means we don't have any other good players. this whole "he isn't a pg" conversation just gets on my nerves now. its irrelevant and not even worth discussion.

great offensive players don't have to play with ricky rubio or chris paul to be good. Jordon, kobe, barkley, LeBron, wade, etc, etc, etc, etc never had old school prototypical pgs next to them. the whole conversation is a crutch to defend other players on this team for not being ready to get the ball and do whatever they want with it yet.

One ball, one shot clock, one guy benefiting from Knight on ball.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if we cant win with Brandon knight starting and putting up 18/7/6 on good efficiency then it means we don't have any other good players. this whole "he isn't a pg" conversation just gets on my nerves now. its irrelevant and not even worth discussion.

great offensive players don't have to play with ricky rubio or chris paul to be good. Jordon, kobe, barkley, LeBron, wade, etc, etc, etc, etc never had old school prototypical pgs next to them. the whole conversation is a crutch to defend other players on this team for not being ready to get the ball and do whatever they want with it yet.

But we don't have "Jordan, Kobe, Lebron".

A good PG absolutely helps an offense. And Knight is not one, period.

a good high post passing center helps an offense too. so lets dump sanders too then?

you guys act like we have to play like Princeton in order to succeed. like we need a guy who sets everybody up with wideopen dunks all game long or they aint a "true pg". whatever... that's not how the last 20 championship teams have played so why get all caught up on it. bottom line is if giannis and parker play to expectation then the next most important thing is supporting TALENT. we need all the badass mfers on this team we can find. as long as knight shares the ball I could care less if we play like an ivy league team. he just played the most minutes and shot 5 damn times.....if we cant win with knight its because giannis and parker aint there and that's all that matters.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if we cant win with Brandon knight starting and putting up 18/7/6 on good efficiency then it means we don't have any other good players. this whole "he isn't a pg" conversation just gets on my nerves now. its irrelevant and not even worth discussion.

great offensive players don't have to play with ricky rubio or chris paul to be good. Jordon, kobe, barkley, LeBron, wade, etc, etc, etc, etc never had old school prototypical pgs next to them. the whole conversation is a crutch to defend other players on this team for not being ready to get the ball and do whatever they want with it yet.

One ball, one shot clock, one guy benefiting from Knight on ball.

nice story. convince his teammates hes a ballhog. they seem unconvinced to me.

[AussieBuck]

if we cant win with Brandon knight starting and putting up 18/7/6 on good efficiency then it means we don't have any other good players. this whole "he isn't a pg" conversation just gets on my nerves now. its irrelevant and not even worth discussion.

great offensive players don't have to play with ricky rubio or chris paul to be good. Jordon, kobe, barkley, LeBron, wade, etc, etc, etc, etc never had old school prototypical pgs next to them. the whole conversation is a crutch to defend other players on this team for not being ready to get the ball and do whatever they want with it yet.

One ball, one shot clock, one guy benefiting from Knight on ball.

nice story. convince his teammates hes a ballhog. they seem unconvinced to me.

He's a clock hog because he's got no idea what is happening on the court.