Otto Porter

rockmanslim · Post #1601 » by **rockmanslim** » Sun Nov 2, 2014 6:37 pm

from highlights, looks like he has a sweet looking stroke

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqqjgv19wWc[/youtube]

KennerLeaguer · Post #1602 » by **KennerLeaguer** » Mon Nov 3, 2014 9:58 am

rockmanslim wrote:from highlights, looks like he has a sweet looking stroke

Yes, he does but is that a surprise? He had a great looking jumpshot while at Georgetown too (particular his midrange jumper). It is a large reason why he was such a highly thought of prospect in the first place because it wasn't as if NBA GMs were in love with his leaping ability.

dobrojim · Post #1603 » by **dobrojim** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:42 pm

bump - I really like what I've seen from this kid so far this year.

Not sure how often this name has come up in terms of player comparisons but
how about OP's floor being Nic Batum.

fishercob · Post #1604 » by **fishercob** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:15 pm

dobrojim wrote:bump - I really like what I've seen from this kid so far this year.

Not sure how often this name has come up in terms of player comparisons but
how about OP's floor being Nic Batum.

Small sample size, but the numbers are good. 117 ORtg, and .147 WS/48. I think Kev had his PPA comparatively lower, right around 100. He needs to shoot more 3's. He's hit half of them so far, but is attempting less than 2 a game.

Dat2U · Post #1605 » by **Dat2U** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:52 pm

fishercob wrote:
dobrojim wrote:bump - I really like what I've seen from this kid so far this year.

Not sure how often this name has come up in terms of player comparisons but
how about OP's floor being Nic Batum.

Small sample size, but the numbers are good. 117 ORtg, and .147 WS/48. I think Kev had his PPA comparatively lower, right around 100. He needs to shoot more 3's. He's hit half of them so far, but is attempting less than 2 a game.

He needs to be more aggressive, period. I think he's too skilled offensively to be as passive as he is. I'm sure the aggressiveness will improve with time & confidence but I want him actively looking for opportunities offensively.

I don't think he's that far away from being one of the better offensive options on our roster.

Post #1606 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:01 pm

Just like with Beal, it's aggravating to see him turn 3's into 2's. It's hard to say how much of that is poor coaching, and how much of it is lack of experience.

DCZards · Post #1607 » by **DCZards** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:40 pm

I wasn't certain OP was a good enough shooter to be what I hoped he would become for the Zards. That was really the only concern I had about his game. Now that he's shown he can shoot from a variety of spots on the court (and will only get better), I expect him to someday be among one of the top SFs in the game.

Otto already had all the other strengths and intangibles, including length, a great work ethic, the ability to make plays for teammates, outstanding instincts as a rebounder, and an extremely high b'ball IQ.

He does need to shoot more 3s, especially since he's making them at a 50% clip.

fishercob · Post #1608 » by **fishercob** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:37 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjdZNNGp_Q[/youtube]

Illmatic12 · Post #1609 » by **Illmatic12** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:31 pm

Until Webster gets back, Otto is the most talented perimeter player in our second unit. We should definitely be running more plays for him and I'd like to see the team make a concerted effort to free him up for touches.

Not sure if I've heard Randy say anything about wanting OP to be more aggressive on offense.. he usually only praises defense/hustle and glosses over his scoring ability.

theboomking · Post #1610 » by **theboomking** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:53 pm

As of last night, per basketball reference, Otto is averaging 24.2 minutes and scoring 8.6 points on .545 shooting while averaging .444 from 3. His per 36 numbers are 12.7 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks and only 1 turnover. Otto's TS% is .616, his DRTG 103, ORTG 119, and PER 15.3.

That is all a huge improvement. I would like to see him rebound a bit more, but hopefully that will come as he gets stronger. We can only hope that Otto's role and minutes continue to expand and that he maintains anything close to this efficiency.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1611 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:51 pm

Otto is playing good, still learning the game on this level, figuring out his role, what he can do and when to do it.

I like what I see, but I won't come to any real conclusions on him until the end of next year. He's only 21, and essentially a rookie. He needs a full season under his belt and another year of getting stronger which will improve his confidence, and his rebounding and range. Look how much stronger both Wall and Beal are then when they came in. Next season he'll be starting. But right now, he's a good player for us off the bench.

JWizmentality · Post #1612 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:03 pm

In the words of a Raptor fan, all you Nerlens Noel apologists can suck it.

tontoz · Post #1613 » by **tontoz** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:34 pm

Once again he made key shots in the 3rd quarter when the starters were struggling and the game was tight. His jumper certainly looks better than i expected.

I am not worried about a lack of aggressiveness. He is still a young guy and would certainly get more looks playing more minutes with Wall.

I am a bit concerned about his weak rebounding. I also think his lack of strength is going to make it tough to finish inside.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #1614 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:26 pm

dobrojim wrote:bump - I really like what I've seen from this kid so far this year.

Not sure how often this name has come up in terms of player comparisons but
how about OP's floor being Nic Batum.

I see less Batum and more Rip Hamilton. He's way better as a catch and shoot guy than as a shot creator/slasher.

And that's ok. You can win with those guys as long as they don't have to be THE guy.

I don't need to see any forced aggressiveness offensively. I like the way he let's the game come to him. As he gets stronger and more experienced, no doubt the game will find him more.

CntOutSmrtCrazy · Post #1615 » by **CntOutSmrtCrazy** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:45 pm

It sucks Ive seen so many full games this year, but when I have been watching from Porter makes me vey pleased. He seems to just have a savvy to him and a confidence that we weren't lucky enough to see last season.

hands11 · Post #1616 » by **hands11** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:00 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Until Webster gets back, Otto is the most talented perimeter player in our second unit. We should definitely be running more plays for him and I'd like to see the team make a concerted effort to free him up for touches.

Not sure if I've heard Randy say anything about wanting OP to be more aggressive on offense.. he usually only praises defense/hustle and glosses over his scoring ability.

Randy said something post game.

He said, I didnt even know he was on the floor in the first half. If was nice to see him look for his shot more in the 2nd.

Thats Randy way of say. You gotta bring it young man. Can't just float around out there. You have to insert yourself into the game. Otto has played best when he has been more aggressive. Several games he just disappeared.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... -porter-jr

He is young. Its early. Young players do this. But he has to string together good games. He hasn't done that yet. He has to get up shots. Specially, corner 3s. Him not doing it hurts the offense.

BruceO · Post #1617 » by **BruceO** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:24 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
dobrojim wrote:bump - I really like what I've seen from this kid so far this year.

Not sure how often this name has come up in terms of player comparisons but
how about OP's floor being Nic Batum.

I see less Batum and more Rip Hamilton. He's way better as a catch and shoot guy than as a shot creator/slasher.

And that's ok. You can win with those guys as long as they don't have to be THE guy.

I don't need to see any forced aggressiveness offensively. I like the way he let's the game come to him. As he gets stronger and more experienced, no doubt the game will find him more.

he also reminds me of a taller rip Hamilton on offense cause of his midrange game and build. Ofcourse rip also moved incessantly but it's one of the comps that popped into my mind.
This kid hits timely shots and I have no question he'll be good. I like how they recognize when he's hot and feed him more. It also happened in that Milwaukee game but I think part of that is wall and the team wanted to victimise oj mayo for the bump on Wall. After that they actively looked for porter especially when oj was on him

Post #1618 » by **Rafael122** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:23 am

I wonder how long it will take Wittman to realize that the team is probably better off starting Porter, and then going with Pierce/Webster/Humphries trio off the bench. Pierce will still close games out, but it wouldn't be the worse idea.

Wizkids12345 · Post #1619 » by **Wizkids12345** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:09 am

Rafael122 wrote:I wonder how long it will take Wittman to realize that the team is probably better off starting Porter, and then going with Pierce/Webster/Humphries trio off the bench. Pierce will still close games out, but it wouldn't be the worse idea.

Absolutely Agree. I even think that we can bring in Pierce as a backup 4 against certain teams, but thats too unconventional for Randy.

dlts20 · Post #1620 » by **dlts20** » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:27 am

Porter shouldnt be starting. You dont bring PP in to put him on the bench. If he's here then he starts until he for sure is shot which he is not. Again, he slumps like this early, including last year and then he turns it up. It also doesnt help when he's depended on because Temple sucks. Then he's on a new team with a new system. He will heat up soon with Beal back. He'll get a ton of open looks and wont have that pressure to score. We need Porter's youth on that 2nd unit right now. He brings fresh legs and energy.

The problem hasnt been Porter not starting over Pierce. The problem was us giving Temple 30 plus minutes every game while Porter was in the teens. Beal should end that part of it. Then you decide who gets the bench minutes. Temple should get 0 with the way Butler is playing but for some reason I think Witt will cut Butler out and instead of giving Porter a ton of backup minutes, I think Temple will backup Beal full time and Porter will just split minutes basically with PP.

Now chances are PP will miss some time and Ill be more than happy with Porter starting then but you cant bench Pierce just yet. Witt just has to handle the rotation better