Byron Scott's long term outlook

[dockingsched]

Probably way too early to start discussing a coach's outlook after 10 games and even more unfair since the schedule had been murderous, but....

Does anyone think byron scott will be with this team 3-4 yrs down the road? I personally think he was simply brought on to create as little controversy as possible during these inevitable down yrs.

Byron scott despite his less than impressive resume seemed to benefit from a perfect storm of circumstances. Fans wanted a familiar face, high profile important critics like Magic needed to be appeased, someone needed to be able to work with kobe in what will be some tough yrs.... Byron scott fit perfectly in everything non basketball related.

I personally think he'll never coach a game for the lakers after kobe is gone and/or the lakers are ready to make real moves, agree or disagree?

[Slava]

What's the point in firing him unless we stumble into a contender? By all accounts he is a player friendly coach and let's his assistants a lot of freedom to implement things, he seems ideal for developing players we will likely draft and build.

At the same time I don't think even Scott was naive enough to sign up for a tanking cause. He was likely promised a long tenure to coach a meaningful team in the near future in return for captaining the tank.

To me it depends on who becomes available. If thibs or Vogel manage to move we should entertain the idea of a coaching change. Otherwise having multiple coaches on the payroll is a bit pointless.

[indilakeshow]

Byron Scott reminds me a lot of Del Harris except much worse. A guy who was brought in to improve the team but not by much, build a roster, and then when the time came they brought in a real winner like Jackson. I want to think that the Lakers thought Scott would go over better, but seriously, what the heck were they thinking?

Back on topic though, I agree with Slava. If a better coach is available (combined with a real roster) then there will (have to) be a coaching change. Scott is horrible. He's fine to get a top 5 pick though.

[kblo247]

He won't make it thru the season ... He is trash

Byron Scott
= 2004-05 New Orleans Hornets lost 29 of their first 31 games and finished 18-64.
= 2010-11 Cleveland Cavaliers started out 8-45 and finished 19-63.

No the damn nets were in the lotto with Marbury and 23rd/28th in d as well before Kidd came in.

Scott's just a dumbass coach, sub 590 for a reason, and can't do anything without Frank and Jordan

[John Long]

I will like it if we can get D'antoni back, the FO should get it done if possible. Everything he said about the game of basketball has been proven right. The guy is a genius! way ahead of his time.

[cw3k]

MDA will not work as long as Kobe is still around. Kobe cannot keep shooting the bricks and not get the rest of the team involved. He account over 30% of all shot attempts.

Scott is garbage. Maybe he is bought in to secure the top 5.

[Alienware]

As soon as we're ready to fight for a playoff spot, he's gone. Hopefully that will happen as soon as next year, I doubt it though.

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[Kilroy]

When we sucked and MDA coached, it was because our roster sucked, not because MDA sucked...

Now our roster is worse, and we suck worse. But that's all Scott's fault.

Last year it was all; "What's the fuss, this team can't win anyway... Because Kobe."
This year it's; "Scott!"

Literally the only starter on this team that has any business starting on a winning NBA team is Kobe. The rest of the team is backups... I'm not sure there's even a healthy 6th man out there right now.

I could care less who coaches at this point. Hell, dress Madsen in a clown suit and make him dance on the sidelines all game.
Or better yet, have Jeanie hire herself, and wear a bikini all game... Even at her age, it'd be more entertaining that what's going on on the court.

That said, I still think Phil is going to flame out in NY, he'll come back and be a 'Tex Winter' sort of guy with more say over personnel decisions, and he'll groom a Triangle coach of the future.

So to answer your question on face value... No, I don't think Scott will coach a single game after Kobe retires... But who knows. With Kobe gone, the team is like the wild west... Maybe keeping him around a few years makes sense.

[aaron_gray]

The offense does lack creativity, but a fair part of that is players just standing and watching Kobe instead of down screening for each other.

[Jedi32]

I'm actually rooting for Scott he's a real LA guy. We just need some talent on this team that's all.

[Michael Lucky]

I completely agree. Heck just listening to radio you can tell the difference between how hosts react to this start compared to how they acted with MDA around.

[Michael Lucky]

I'm actually rooting for Scott he's a real LA guy. We just need some talent on this team that's all.

So what exactly is an LA guy?

[Slava]

The offense does lack creativity, but a fair part of that is players just standing and watching Kobe instead of down screening for each other.

Despite all the horror and Kobe jump shooting to oblivion we are still a league average offense, better than last season and +0.4 relative offensive rating over league average coming into last night's game. That's not the issue and if we can actually add a sliver of talent to what's already here, there would be cause for celebration on that end so Scott must be doing something good to be able to produce a smoothie out of this crap.

The elephant in the room is the defense. Its sometimes just lack of effort, lackadaisical ball handling from the PG leading to turnovers and absence of a shot blocker who can alter shots without fouling (No, Ed Davis is not that person). If we add some talent, Scott is actually a very capable coach and I'd give him more time and opportunity to succeed here because unless you have Popovich, THibodeu, Spoelstra, Van Gundy, Vogel or Carlisle you have to make do with what's available.

[Michael Lucky]

The offense does lack creativity, but a fair part of that is players just standing and watching Kobe instead of down screening for each other.

. If we add some talent, Scott is actually a very capable coach and I'd give him more time and opportunity to succeed here because unless you have Popovich, THibodeu, Spoelstra, Van Gundy, Vogel or Carlisle you have to make do with what's available.

The problem is that he simply doesn't fit the current talent on the roster. It's one of the reasons why i feel MDA overachieved last year with the talent that he had despite all the criticism. If you want to win games you have to emphasize your players strengths not their weaknesses and i think it's becoming apparently clear. The reason the lakers got wins over the likes of OKC, Spurs etc last year was because of this. Meanwhile (and i can't fault Scott for this), he's trying to emphasize defense on a roster that simply is incapable physically and mentally to play it while not being able to implement an offensive system that can emphasize his players strengths. Hence, why you're basically having Kobe play ISO ball and chucking more than ever.

[Slava]

The offense does lack creativity, but a fair part of that is players just standing and watching Kobe instead of down screening for each other.

. If we add some talent, Scott is actually a very capable coach and I'd give him more time and opportunity to succeed here because unless you have Popovich, THibodeu, Spoelstra, Van Gundy, Vogel or Carlisle you have to make do with what's available.

The problem is that he simply doesn't fit the current talent on the roster. It's one of the reasons why i feel MDA overachieved last year with the talent that he had despite all the criticism. If you want to win games you have to emphasize your players strengths not their weaknesses and i think it's becoming apparently clear. The reason the lakers got wins over the likes of OKC, Spurs etc last year was because of this. Meanwhile (and i can't fault Scott for this), he's trying to emphasize defense on a roster that simply is incapable physically and mentally to play it while not being able to implement an offensive system that can emphasize his players strengths. Hence, why you're basically having Kobe play ISO ball and chucking more than ever.

I think we had the 22nd best offense last season so he wasn't really maximizing anything to great effect, we just had 4 or 5 players capable of going ham every other day and shoot 40% from 3 for the season which is how we got incredibly hot and won some games. You could argue that outside of Kobe, Jodie Meeks, Pau & Blake are more talented than anyone else on our roster this season. We really don't have that kind of shooting now.

[ArC_man]

IMO BScott's longterm outlook is tied in with Jim Buss's success. Jim has given himself 4 years to turn it around before he steps down. By the time Kobe's contract expires it will already be year 3 and I doubt Jim will want to hire another coach for the team to learn a completely new system.

[Jedi32]

I'm actually rooting for Scott he's a real LA guy. We just need some talent on this team that's all.

So what exactly is an LA guy?

He went to Morningside high in Inglewood. Has always been involved in the LA community. I can remember him coming to visit when I attended Morningside. He seems to really love the Lakers. He's a real LA guy imo.

[LakersDynasty14]

The offense does lack creativity, but a fair part of that is players just standing and watching Kobe instead of down screening for each other.

Despite all the horror and Kobe jump shooting to oblivion we are still a league average offense, better than last season and +0.4 relative offensive rating over league average coming into last night's game. That's not the issue and if we can actually add a sliver of talent to what's already here, there would be cause for celebration on that end so Scott must be doing something good to be able to produce a smoothie out of this crap.

The elephant in the room is the defense. Its sometimes just lack of effort, lackadaisical ball handling from the PG leading to turnovers and absence of a shot blocker who can alter shots without fouling (No, Ed Davis is not that person). If we add some talent, Scott is actually a very capable coach and I'd give him more time and opportunity to succeed here because unless you have Popovich, THibodeu, Spoelstra, Van Gundy, Vogel or Carlisle you have to make do with what's available.

I think our overall offensive rating is helped by a lot of easy 4th quarter garbage time buckets. We've had a number of games where blowouts have turned into respectable final scores once the benches emptied.

I'd be more curious to see what the numbers look like through 3 quarters, or just for the starters.

[LApwnd]

He won't make it thru the season ... He is trash

Byron Scott
= 2004-05 New Orleans Hornets lost 29 of their first 31 games and finished 18-64.
= 2010-11 Cleveland Cavaliers started out 8-45 and finished 19-63.

No the damn nets were in the lotto with Marbury and 23rd/28th in d as well before Kidd came in.

Scott's just a dumbass coach, sub 590 for a reason, and can't do anything without Frank and Jordan

I'm not defending him but NO/Cle stint and current LA stint all have same thing going against him, LACK OF TALENT!

[tenten]

note to coach BS, I'm sick and tired of your attempt to run the Princeton offense with bigs handing off/making passes 25 ft from the basket. We have Hill and Boozer who are below average passers. yet we're playing like they are Webber and Divac.