OT: Philly sux

[Pharaoh]

Has anyone thought about the Philly players?

Do you think those guys don't play hard? Do you think they don't want to win?

Given the fact no big time free agent will choose Philadelphia over a larger market or better climate how do you expect the organization to put together a contender?

The system is the problem - but how do you fix it?

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MCW just wrote an awesome piece about he hated losing and so last year was so hard for him. MCW is giving it 100% every night but his FO is letting him down, by openly tanking. Last 6ers game, coach yelled at MCW for not getting back on D, MCW just pointed to the scoreboard cuz 6ers were down 40- that is why you don't take- it creates a losing culture. I have little doubt MCW would bolt from Phili the first chance he got.

Restructuring rookie contracts would also go a long way to discouraging tanking because players won't stay for that **** show.

Phili is a joke, I would stop supporting this team if we ever went that route. Very rarely do teams recover from tanking.

Yeah I read his article, which is why I made the comment.

And I agree with you 1000% about it creating a losing culture in that regardless of how talented individuals might be or how hard they work if you want to win important games the NBA you have to learn to execute under pressure.

Let's assume MCW spends his first 10 years with Philly - at least 3 of them are gonna be "tanking" years. Hinkie will likely accumulate enough takent in those years so they can stop tanking and start learning to play as a competitive team.

Then they might have 2 years of "learning" - assuming good health Hinkie will get to see how his pieces fit and how mentally aware his pieces are.

That will be followed by 2 years of "how close are we?" where Hinkie gets to see how good his pieces have gelled, where he needs to tinker and how far they can go.

That's 7 years! And I think the 2 year stages are optimistic. This also assumes a stable coaching staff!

JE, Noel
Noel, Saric
McDaniels, ???
???, McDaniels, Wroten
MCW, Wroten

Looks impressive cause no one knows what they've got but if this process takes 5-7 seasons...WOW!

I feel sorry for the players and fans cause the only people who benefit from this are "suits" keeping themselves in a job

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[epheisey]

Your way means the Lakers with their massive local TV contract can afford to Pay Lebron $100 mil a year to play for them and another $100 mil for Durant and another $100 mil for some other superstar so that nobody can compete with them.

Pure genius dude.

Maybe, no max contract only for teams to resign their own players after Rookie contract is over.

Ok, well first do you know what a salary cap is? I never said to take out the salary cap. It's totally crazy, but there's this thing called a hard cap, and every single league with a salary cap outside of the NBA has one. Get rid of the fake salary cap, and implement an actual cap to dollars spent and this becomes a completely viable solution.

But if you want to totally ignore the obvious and pretend like this set up is working, go for it...

Let teams actually have a bidding war for free agents. The reason Lebron and other super stars pick teams based on location is because their salary is already set. There is a max amount of money they can make playing ball, and the only way for them to make more than that is in endorsements. So if you're maxed making X amount of dollars regardless of which team you choose (except for the team with bird rights) are you going to pick Milwaukee/Minnesota/Detroit/Charlotte/New Orleans/etc or NY/LA/Miami? It's not even a question. They can double and triple their earnings by going to a big market. But if you give the smaller markets the ability to "overpay" to bring in a superstar, they aren't losing money by going there.

This board is re tard ed. I'm done. I give up. People can't come in with reasonable posts because someone else has to go full re tard in order to argue that it won't work.

[kurtis48239]

First they could make it,if you get a number one pick,then you could only qualify for 5 and up for 3 consecutive years.Might not stop tanking but ensures a different team gets a number one pick every year and it gives other teams a better chance to move up into the top 5,

[Pharaoh]

Your way means the Lakers with their massive local TV contract can afford to Pay Lebron $100 mil a year to play for them and another $100 mil for Durant and another $100 mil for some other superstar so that nobody can compete with them.

Pure genius dude.

Maybe, no max contract only for teams to resign their own players after Rookie contract is over.

Ok, well first do you know what a salary cap is? I never said to take out the salary cap. It's totally crazy, but there's this thing called a hard cap, and every single league with a salary cap outside of the NBA has one. Get rid of the fake salary cap, and implement an actual cap to dollars spent and this becomes a completely viable solution.

But if you want to totally ignore the obvious and pretend like this set up is working, go for it...

Let teams actually have a bidding war for free agents. The reason Lebron and other super stars pick teams based on location is because their salary is already set. There is a max amount of money they can make playing ball, and the only way for them to make more than that is in endorsements. So if you're maxed making X amount of dollars regardless of which team you choose (except for the team with bird rights) are you going to pick Milwaukee/Minnesota/Detroit/Charlotte/New Orleans/etc or NY/LA/Miami? It's not even a question. They can double and triple their earnings by going to a big market. But if you give the smaller markets the ability to "overpay" to bring in a superstar, they aren't losing money by going there.

This board is re tard ed. I'm done. I give up. People can't come in with reasonable posts because someone else has to go full re tard in order to argue that it won't work.

I hope you don't bail dude - I for one appreciate your comments

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[RSCD3_]

True parity is hard to accomplish when there's only 5 players on a team and the starters play most of the game




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[Ghost]

Interesting topic though, if you wanted to be a GM... would you want to start with the Lakers or 76ers roster, assume location of franchise means nothing.

[coolness]

Philly could make the playoffs next season.

Nerlens/Embiid/20151st can be The Medium Three.
Cap space can add major talent with a little luck.
MCW/Saric/Stuff could be packaged for future 1st's for when they will NEED cheap contracts.

In conclusion, we very well could be stomped by Philly next year.

[BadMofoPimp]

Your way means the Lakers with their massive local TV contract can afford to Pay Lebron $100 mil a year to play for them and another $100 mil for Durant and another $100 mil for some other superstar so that nobody can compete with them.

Pure genius dude.

Maybe, no max contract only for teams to resign their own players after Rookie contract is over.

Ok, well first do you know what a salary cap is? I never said to take out the salary cap. It's totally crazy, but there's this thing called a hard cap, and every single league with a salary cap outside of the NBA has one. Get rid of the fake salary cap, and implement an actual cap to dollars spent and this becomes a completely viable solution.

But if you want to totally ignore the obvious and pretend like this set up is working, go for it...

Let teams actually have a bidding war for free agents. The reason Lebron and other super stars pick teams based on location is because their salary is already set. There is a max amount of money they can make playing ball, and the only way for them to make more than that is in endorsements. So if you're maxed making X amount of dollars regardless of which team you choose (except for the team with bird rights) are you going to pick Milwaukee/Minnesota/Detroit/Charlotte/New Orleans/etc or NY/LA/Miami? It's not even a question. They can double and triple their earnings by going to a big market. But if you give the smaller markets the ability to "overpay" to bring in a superstar, they aren't losing money by going there.

This board is re tard ed. I'm done. I give up. People can't come in with reasonable posts because someone else has to go full re tard in order to argue that it won't work.

I get what you are saying. I think they should greatly raise the Salary cap and make it a hard cap at like lets say $80-100 mil and get rid of players max contracts so they can sign for whatever they want. Yet, it may end up you have a superstar playing with a bunch of D-leagers then.

[Kilo]

This board is re tard ed. I'm done. I give up. People can't come in with reasonable posts because someone else has to go full re tard in order to argue that it won't work.

Good riddance to anybody who uses the word "(Please Use More Appropriate Word)/(Please Use More Appropriate Word)" anymore.

[epheisey]

This board is re tard ed. I'm done. I give up. People can't come in with reasonable posts because someone else has to go full re tard in order to argue that it won't work.

Good riddance to anybody who uses the word "(Please Use More Appropriate Word)/(Please Use More Appropriate Word)" anymore.

Right, because everyone else on this board, I'm sure yourself included, are all saints. Sorry but if I wanted to be a part of an overly PC community that can't filter out context and how words are used, then I wouldn't have been here in the first place. BUT I apologize to anyone who took my initial post offensively, I admit it was a poor choice of words, specifically BadMofoPimp.

This board becomes a cluster of extreme overreactions during the early parts of the season. I made a point several times over that this would happen, and it would become toxic, and it has. It's next to impossible to come to this board and sift through the nonsense that is posted after a single bad performance, or likewise one great one. During the rest of the year, this board is filled with reasonable posts, and solid discussion, but right now, my blood boils more because of some of what is posted, than because of the Pistons actual performance.