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moocow007 wrote:ITGM wrote:Spoiler:
Come on, Walking Dead Writers... you can do better than that!
You mean...Spoiler:
Still it was an alright episode. Just imagine if they had the Scandal writers actually writing Walking Dead. Then we'd be onto some greatness. But right now it's basically a bunch of "eh, ok" writers writing a show that sells itself.
thebuzzardman wrote:NYSPORTSNUCCA wrote:J9Starks3 wrote:Last 2 episodes were understandably "set up" type episodes... but after the first 3, these just seemed so slow. I know it would be impossible to keep up the level of intensity of the first 3 episodes - the problem is, they focused on 2 people that most folks, including myself, really don't care too much about. Beth is just... well Beth. Abe isn't too bad, and I guess the symbolism of him ending up in the same situation as right before he met Eugene is clever... I just am not super attached to him.
I think the intensity should pick up again though as it looks like they'll be going to rescue Beth.
Abraham at least had a goal that wasn't JUST survival. Other groups that we've seen. That's all it really was.., Gareth, The Govenor and so forth. He chose to live for a purpose and it wasn't to just keep running to one haven after another.
That's what we want to see. We want to see how other people are choosing to go forward. Abraham would've been less interesting he just chose to be another one of Rick's followers. "Let's just walk around and see if we can find food.......,". That should be what gets old before watching another faction trying to do something else.
Not to mention., Rick was in a coma when everything started. Abraham., had to deal with this from the beginning and he spent way more time alone and protecting others before Rick did.
This episode was well made.
Hmm. Maybe you misread the intent of the show sometimes. To me, the crux of the show is what kind of moral/ethical decision someone makes in the situation, plus some sort of commentary on how society organizes itself - I see each of the living situations as some sort of analogy to human development; they were in the "hunter gather" mode in the trailer caravan, the villages tend to have some sort of charismatic/violent leader which seems to be like a medieval situation - serfs following the Duke/Lord, whatever.
Abraham was another character thrown in to explore moral choice. He wasn't that good a person, drove his wife away, got his family killed basically, had regrets, and seized on something "bigger than himself" to keep from going bat sh*t crazy. I think there is a reason they have him as an ex soldier - someone who wants to give himself a cause - not my opinion of why people might serve, just I see that as a choice the writers made.
To me, all this was clear enough in the graphic novel, but the whole moral thing stands out even more in the tv show. The two things that I recall from the graphic novel series (I last read it a year ago) is that every village situation seemed to get bigger and have a bigger maniac running it (which I took as a commentary on how societies developed - I'm sure the first kings were not ruling because they were great guys, but capable but violent men) and that, damn, no characters stick around but Rick, ultimately
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I've been on the THjr bandwagon since summer league, and I would trade him for Rondo. IMO Rondo is the third best PG in the NBA after Curry and CP3. I doubt anything happens though.
prophet_of_rage wrote:moocow007 wrote:ITGM wrote:Spoiler:
Come on, Walking Dead Writers... you can do better than that!
You mean...Spoiler:
Still it was an alright episode. Just imagine if they had the Scandal writers actually writing Walking Dead. Then we'd be onto some greatness. But right now it's basically a bunch of "eh, ok" writers writing a show that sells itself.
Whenever TWD deviates from the comic it becomes silly. The ending for Carol was just dumb.Spoiler:
prophet_of_rage wrote:There were better ways to get to that story other than some really stupid stunts. Personally, I figure Carol dies and Beth comes back to the group. We know they've got to get some vehicles out of this so they can drive the road to Washington and reunite with Maggie and Glenn.
Why couldn't Carol just infiltrate the hospital? What, they wouldn't take care of a tired able body? They have to need an emergency? Silly.
It's just rinse and repeat. I had hope for this season after the first three straight from the comics episodes and then they give me basically three weeks of crap. Two if you think the Abraham Eugene arc was alright.
NoLayupRule wrote:I actually watched the talking dead last night and Im seeing this conversation and Im shocked no one here or on the show put two and two together to see what happens
there was a flash forward people
we got a hintSpoiler:
Guano wrote:Will be interesting to see how this place transitions from killing Melo to turning on KP. I'm hoping Frank shows out so we can divide into Frank vs KP factions. That should be fun.
NoLayupRule wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:moocow007 wrote:
You mean...Spoiler:
Still it was an alright episode. Just imagine if they had the Scandal writers actually writing Walking Dead. Then we'd be onto some greatness. But right now it's basically a bunch of "eh, ok" writers writing a show that sells itself.
Whenever TWD deviates from the comic it becomes silly. The ending for Carol was just dumb.Spoiler:
guys, you are overthinking it
its called story
they wanted to get Carol into the hospital and set up another battle between Rick and co and these new douchebags
this is the season of a$$ kicking
be excited
we get another battle!
emo wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:I actually watched the talking dead last night and Im seeing this conversation and Im shocked no one here or on the show put two and two together to see what happens
there was a flash forward people
we got a hintSpoiler:Spoiler:
Meat wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:There were better ways to get to that story other than some really stupid stunts. Personally, I figure Carol dies and Beth comes back to the group. We know they've got to get some vehicles out of this so they can drive the road to Washington and reunite with Maggie and Glenn.
Why couldn't Carol just infiltrate the hospital? What, they wouldn't take care of a tired able body? They have to need an emergency? Silly.
It's just rinse and repeat. I had hope for this season after the first three straight from the comics episodes and then they give me basically three weeks of crap. Two if you think the Abraham Eugene arc was alright.
why would she just walk in? before noah's explanation to daryl all they knew is they were kidnappers.
Smash3 wrote:Also I like how even to this point, Maggie is yet to mention/talk about her sister. Or for Daryl to say hey I kinda lost your sister thought you should know, after all you are her sister. (Back when they were reunited after getting out of the cart)
Smash3 wrote:Darryl: They got Beth, Rick.
Rick: Our Beth?
Dr. Detfink wrote:I don't fault the actors but that whole confusing, follow/followed meandering between Noah and Daryl/Carol could have been written better.
frogfood wrote:Dr. Detfink wrote:I don't fault the actors but that whole confusing, follow/followed meandering between Noah and Daryl/Carol could have been written better.
From the minute Daryl showed up from being the bushes 3 episodes ago, it's been a slog. Do we even care who the antagonists in the hospital are? Losing steam imo.
