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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#161 » by DRK » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:42 am

DRK wrote:Anyone else got their eye on Nico Batum?


Green, IT and Lakers pick for Batum?


Len/Plumlee
Kieff/Mook
Batum/Warren/PJ
Bledsoe/PJ/Archie
Goran/Ennis



Oos sorry didnt see it discussed up the top
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#162 » by Frank Lee » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:46 am

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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#163 » by nevetsov » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:41 pm

Ok so you can put me down on the "Bledsoe for a PF" list. I think we are set at PG even without him with Dragic/Thomas/Ennis, and a star calibre (two way) player at PF between Warren and Len would set our frontline for the foreseeable future. We'd then be just a solid 3&D SG away from a formidable lineup. And you don't pay $14m per for a 3&D guy.

We could even return the Morrii to the bench where they have proven they can excel. A bench mob of Thomas+the Morrii would give us a killer 8 man rotation. Bit players like Plumlee, Archie etc can fill in the remaining minutes depending on matchups.

But who to target? Some thoughts...

Bledsoe for Julius Randle & filler (Nash expiring)
- Trading talent for rookie scale potential at the PF spot. Both Randle & Nash would be inactive for the rest of the year. Tolliver could act as a placeholder for him until he arrives next season, when Tollie's TO could be declined. Or, could include Tolliver for Boozer as an expiring PF swap.

Bledsoe for David West
- Trade down on talent for 2 years of an established veteran PF. We can draft his replacement with the Lakers pick.

Bledsoe for Ryan Anderson & filler
- Unlikely scenario where Bledsoe is the better player, but Anderson may actually hold more value to each team, given his rebounding and stretch PF ability.

Bledsoe for Serge Ibaka
- Only remotely possible if Westbrook continues to be injured, and OKC likes what PJ3/ Adams gives them at PF/C. Can only imagine what a combo of Ibaka and Len would look like defensively.

Or, we could include the Lakers pick to nab someone in the next tier up. We'd be set for developing talent so it wouldn't really be all that integral - note, these are largely pipe dreams:

Bledsoe, Tolliver and Lakers pick for Bosh
- Bosh would be a great fit, but he's such a huge salary hit. It'd probably be manageable though given the number of rookie contracts on the books.

Bledsoe and Lakers pick for Horford
- Everyone's favourite but can't see ATL having that great of a need for Bled, especially at the expense of Horford. Lakers pick might intrigue them though.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#164 » by JDLAW » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:04 pm

nevetsov wrote:Ok so you can put me down on the "Bledsoe for a PF" list. I think we are set at PG even without him with Dragic/Thomas/Ennis, and a star calibre (two way) player at PF between Warren and Len would set our frontline for the foreseeable future. We'd then be just a solid 3&D SG away from a formidable lineup. And you don't pay $14m per for a 3&D guy.

We could even return the Morrii to the bench where they have proven they can excel. A bench mob of Thomas+the Morrii would give us a killer 8 man rotation. Bit players like Plumlee, Archie etc can fill in the remaining minutes depending on matchups.

But who to target? Some thoughts...

Bledsoe for Julius Randle & filler (Nash expiring)
- Trading talent for rookie scale potential at the PF spot. Both Randle & Nash would be inactive for the rest of the year. Tolliver could act as a placeholder for him until he arrives next season, when Tollie's TO could be declined. Or, could include Tolliver for Boozer as an expiring PF swap.

Bledsoe for David West
- Trade down on talent for 2 years of an established veteran PF. We can draft his replacement with the Lakers pick.

Bledsoe for Ryan Anderson & filler
- Unlikely scenario where Bledsoe is the better player, but Anderson may actually hold more value to each team, given his rebounding and stretch PF ability.

Bledsoe for Serge Ibaka
- Only remotely possible if Westbrook continues to be injured, and OKC likes what PJ3/ Adams gives them at PF/C. Can only imagine what a combo of Ibaka and Len would look like defensively.

Or, we could include the Lakers pick to nab someone in the next tier up. We'd be set for developing talent so it wouldn't really be all that integral - note, these are largely pipe dreams:

Bledsoe, Tolliver and Lakers pick for Bosh
- Bosh would be a great fit, but he's such a huge salary hit. It'd probably be manageable though given the number of rookie contracts on the books.

Bledsoe and Lakers pick for Horford
- Everyone's favourite but can't see ATL having that great of a need for Bled, especially at the expense of Horford. Lakers pick might intrigue them though.


First and second trades are terrible. One player is too old and one is too young and injured.

Third trade is not remotely even as Bledsoe is a much better player.

The last three are not remotely likely.

If one of the point guards are to the traded, it will happen at the end of the year and I predict it will be Thomas because Ennis will be ready to step into the reserve role. Thomas will want to be on a team where he can start and finish games as opposed to being on the bench.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#165 » by jcsunsfan » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:34 pm

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nevetsov wrote:Ok so you can put me down on the "Bledsoe for a PF" list. I think we are set at PG even without him with Dragic/Thomas/Ennis, and a star calibre (two way) player at PF between Warren and Len would set our frontline for the foreseeable future. We'd then be just a solid 3&D SG away from a formidable lineup. And you don't pay $14m per for a 3&D guy.

We could even return the Morrii to the bench where they have proven they can excel. A bench mob of Thomas+the Morrii would give us a killer 8 man rotation. Bit players like Plumlee, Archie etc can fill in the remaining minutes depending on matchups.

But who to target? Some thoughts...

Bledsoe for Julius Randle & filler (Nash expiring)
- Trading talent for rookie scale potential at the PF spot. Both Randle & Nash would be inactive for the rest of the year. Tolliver could act as a placeholder for him until he arrives next season, when Tollie's TO could be declined. Or, could include Tolliver for Boozer as an expiring PF swap.

Bledsoe for David West
- Trade down on talent for 2 years of an established veteran PF. We can draft his replacement with the Lakers pick.

Bledsoe for Ryan Anderson & filler
- Unlikely scenario where Bledsoe is the better player, but Anderson may actually hold more value to each team, given his rebounding and stretch PF ability.

Bledsoe for Serge Ibaka
- Only remotely possible if Westbrook continues to be injured, and OKC likes what PJ3/ Adams gives them at PF/C. Can only imagine what a combo of Ibaka and Len would look like defensively.

Or, we could include the Lakers pick to nab someone in the next tier up. We'd be set for developing talent so it wouldn't really be all that integral - note, these are largely pipe dreams:

Bledsoe, Tolliver and Lakers pick for Bosh
- Bosh would be a great fit, but he's such a huge salary hit. It'd probably be manageable though given the number of rookie contracts on the books.

Bledsoe and Lakers pick for Horford
- Everyone's favourite but can't see ATL having that great of a need for Bled, especially at the expense of Horford. Lakers pick might intrigue them though.


First and second trades are terrible. One player is too old and one is too young and injured.

Third trade is not remotely even as Bledsoe is a much better player.

The last three are not remotely likely.

If one of the point guards are to the traded, it will happen at the end of the year and I predict it will be Thomas because Ennis will be ready to step into the reserve role. Thomas will want to be on a team where he can start and finish games as opposed to being on the bench.


The third one is interesting. Maybe not Bledsoe but maybe on of IT, PJ, Plumlee, Gerald Green, or even one of the twins (not sure they can be traded separately).
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#166 » by Qwigglez » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:51 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=o9lysw7

We also send out the Lakers 1st to Atlanta.


I think TJ Warren can contribute right now, and can compliment IT off the bench, but a future starting lineup that consist of Bledsoe/Warren/Ibaka/Len looks legit.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#167 » by Qwigglez » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:01 am

We can also trade with Denver for a JJ Hickson or... lol, Javale McGee?
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#168 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:32 am

Pass on McGee. He'll never be a big contributor on a championship team. Supremely talented and athletically gifted but has the basketball IQ of a potato.

I'm more interested in Hickson although I don't think he's any more of a difference maker than the Morri.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#169 » by JMac1 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:02 am

DRK wrote:Anyone else got their eye on Nico Batum?


:nonono:

I got my eye on our guy......T.J. mutha@#$%^& Warren!

He is for real. Batum is a one trick pony spot up shooter. Warren has all around game.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#170 » by SBM » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:43 am

Hawks fan here.

What do you guys think of

Suns get

Al Horford and Shelvin Mack

Hawks get

Goran Dragic and Alex Len

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k6dw6mn
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#171 » by sogood » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:53 am

JMac1 wrote:
DRK wrote:Anyone else got their eye on Nico Batum?


:nonono:

I got my eye on our guy......T.J. mutha@#$%^& Warren!

He is for real. Batum is a one trick pony spot up shooter. Warren has all around game.


What the hell are you talking about?
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Post#172 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:54 am

SBM wrote:Hawks fan here.

What do you guys think of

Suns get

Al Horford and Shelvin Mack

Hawks get

Goran Dragic and Alex Len

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k6dw6mn

Pass.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#173 » by JDLAW » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:57 am

SBM wrote:Hawks fan here.

What do you guys think of

Suns get

Al Horford and Shelvin Mack

Hawks get

Goran Dragic and Alex Len

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k6dw6mn


Very little. The Suns are very high on Len and Dragic is a favorite of the organization and the fans. While Horford would be of interest, the Suns are not going to trade Dragic and Len for him and Mack does not move the needle at all.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#174 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:59 am

JDLAW wrote:
nevetsov wrote:Ok so you can put me down on the "Bledsoe for a PF" list. I think we are set at PG even without him with Dragic/Thomas/Ennis, and a star calibre (two way) player at PF between Warren and Len would set our frontline for the foreseeable future. We'd then be just a solid 3&D SG away from a formidable lineup. And you don't pay $14m per for a 3&D guy.

We could even return the Morrii to the bench where they have proven they can excel. A bench mob of Thomas+the Morrii would give us a killer 8 man rotation. Bit players like Plumlee, Archie etc can fill in the remaining minutes depending on matchups.

But who to target? Some thoughts...

Bledsoe for Julius Randle & filler (Nash expiring)
- Trading talent for rookie scale potential at the PF spot. Both Randle & Nash would be inactive for the rest of the year. Tolliver could act as a placeholder for him until he arrives next season, when Tollie's TO could be declined. Or, could include Tolliver for Boozer as an expiring PF swap.

Bledsoe for David West
- Trade down on talent for 2 years of an established veteran PF. We can draft his replacement with the Lakers pick.

Bledsoe for Ryan Anderson & filler
- Unlikely scenario where Bledsoe is the better player, but Anderson may actually hold more value to each team, given his rebounding and stretch PF ability.

Bledsoe for Serge Ibaka
- Only remotely possible if Westbrook continues to be injured, and OKC likes what PJ3/ Adams gives them at PF/C. Can only imagine what a combo of Ibaka and Len would look like defensively.

Or, we could include the Lakers pick to nab someone in the next tier up. We'd be set for developing talent so it wouldn't really be all that integral - note, these are largely pipe dreams:

Bledsoe, Tolliver and Lakers pick for Bosh
- Bosh would be a great fit, but he's such a huge salary hit. It'd probably be manageable though given the number of rookie contracts on the books.

Bledsoe and Lakers pick for Horford
- Everyone's favourite but can't see ATL having that great of a need for Bled, especially at the expense of Horford. Lakers pick might intrigue them though.


First and second trades are terrible. One player is too old and one is too young and injured.

Third trade is not remotely even as Bledsoe is a much better player.

The last three are not remotely likely.

If one of the point guards are to the traded, it will happen at the end of the year and I predict it will be Thomas because Ennis will be ready to step into the reserve role. Thomas will want to be on a team where he can start and finish games as opposed to being on the bench.


I agree, plus I don't think any of those teams make those trades. Most of those teams don't need point guards and some will want the cap space rather than a second pg on a huge contract.

Secondly, I also believe Thomas is the guy most people might want....solid contract, good 6th man. But ultimately we need to hold onto them at least until next season and wait to see what happens with Dragic and Green. I imagine those guys want to stay, but they could get monster offers elsewhere that, with our depth, we decide to let them go. I doubt this happens, and I want them to stay, but you can't deplete the roster with two impending free agents. I doubt teams give up much for them this season either (not that we will trade them anyway) because teams won't want to trade much for guys who could bolt THEM in the offseason.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#175 » by LV-Suns » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:33 am

SBM wrote:Hawks fan here.

What do you guys think of

Suns get

Al Horford and Shelvin Mack

Hawks get

Goran Dragic and Alex Len

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k6dw6mn

I would do a package of Bledsoe for Horford
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#176 » by SBM » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:41 am

LV-Suns wrote:
SBM wrote:Hawks fan here.

What do you guys think of

Suns get

Al Horford and Shelvin Mack

Hawks get

Goran Dragic and Alex Len

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k6dw6mn

I would do a package of Bledsoe for Horford


I wouldn't be interested due to the length of Bledsoe's contract and already having Teague and Schroder.
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Post#177 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:44 am

SBM, how about a trade of Tolliver for Schroder?
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#178 » by LV-Suns » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:48 am

SBM wrote:
LV-Suns wrote:
SBM wrote:Hawks fan here.

What do you guys think of

Suns get

Al Horford and Shelvin Mack

Hawks get

Goran Dragic and Alex Len

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k6dw6mn

I would do a package of Bledsoe for Horford


I wouldn't be interested due to the length of Bledsoe's contract and already having Teague and Schroder.


Would you guys do a Dragic for Horford straight up? I feel like throwing Len in is a deal breaker for me..
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#179 » by JTrain » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:36 am

Thoughts about trading for Carl Landry, assuming we don't figure out how to benefit from Tolliver soon? Could be a great backup to Keef.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: Two drink minimum 

Post#180 » by JTrain » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:40 am

Qwigglez wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=o9lysw7

We also send out the Lakers 1st to Atlanta.


I think TJ Warren can contribute right now, and can compliment IT off the bench, but a future starting lineup that consist of Bledsoe/Warren/Ibaka/Len looks legit.


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