Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk

[PMFJB]

Towns doesn't even start for his team???? Pass.

[Tank_Commander]

Okafor with 17 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 steals, and an assist tonight

[Besart19]

Towns doesn't even start for his team???? Pass.

Dakari Johnson is a late first rounder...

[mpharris36]

If we do get a high enough pick and grab a big man I want the guy with the most defensive potential. I am sick and tired of teams putting us in the P&R and getting either a wide open layup or a open 3.

We need to have a big that not only can protect the paint but is mobile and smart enough to defend the P&R properly. Who out of the top prospects is projected to be the better defender?

[Besart19]

If we do get a high enough pick and grab a big man I want the guy with the most defensive potential. I am sick and tired of teams putting us in the P&R and getting either a wide open layup or a open 3.

We need to have a big that not only can protect the paint but is mobile and smart enough to defend the P&R properly. Who out of the top prospects is projected to be the better defender?

Gasol and Towns, for that purpose!! Or LMA and Okafor!!

[mpharris36]

is towns or okafor projected to be the better defender?

[FutureKnicksGM]

If we don't get a top 3 pick (and maybe even then), I want Porzingis. A rim protecting stretch four? He can be our Ibaka

[NBA Fan 1234]

Towns doesn't even start for his team???? Pass.

LMAO. You've gotta be kidding.

is towns or okafor projected to be the better defender?

Towns, IMO. More quickness, arms almost as long as Okafor's, and is more mobile.

[PMFJB]

Towns doesn't even start for his team???? Pass.

LMAO. You've gotta be kidding.

is towns or okafor projected to be the better defender?

Towns, IMO. More quickness, arms almost as long as Okafor's, and is more mobile.

The last guy I remember not starting and touted as a top pick was that bust Marvin Williams.

Towns is not a good defender. Not saying that Okafor is great but Towns is not currently a difference maker on defense.

He is an excellent passer which would fit the triangle. The is the ONLY reason I would take a look at him. I could be wrong but I get the bust sense from him.

Okafor I think will be a solid player.

But who cares about these two Mudaiay or bust.

[moocow007]

Harrell still has a somewhat broken outside game so he's in for a rude awakening if he thinks his athleticism is going to carry him to stardom. He has to develop some sort of outside game, this has been his problem since arriving to Louisville

EDIT: Watching the Minnesota video posted above....when the hell did he have confidence to shoot 3's?!?!?!??!

Don't want to write him off after this year as he could have come miles from where he once was but I always thought Harrell to be like a young Kenyon Martin....somewhat who may never be a star player but someone who will stick around the league for 12+ years due to his intensity, defense and offensive rebounding. KMart went no.1 to the Nets in his draft class, I don't think it is outlandish Harrell becomes a top 10 pick.

Yes. Kenyon Martin is an interesting comparison. I used that same comparison from a potential impact standpoint in the NBA.

[Knicksfan1992]

Towns>Okafor. Better defender, more versatile on offense (more of a system player), whereas Okafor needs his touches to be effective. Hometown dude always sways my opinion as well. Okafor also has some red flags on his motivation and ability to stay in shape. Always stay away from big men like that unless it's a no-brainer pick for what position you're in in the draft.

[moocow007]

Towns doesn't even start for his team???? Pass.

LMAO. You've gotta be kidding.

is towns or okafor projected to be the better defender?

Towns, IMO. More quickness, arms almost as long as Okafor's, and is more mobile.

The last guy I remember not starting and touted as a top pick was that bust Marvin Williams.

Towns is not a good defender. Not saying that Okafor is great but Towns is not currently a difference maker on defense.

He is an excellent passer which would fit the triangle. The is the ONLY reason I would take a look at him. I could be wrong but I get the bust sense from him.

Okafor I think will be a solid player.

But who cares about these two Mudaiay or bust.

Towns is on a stacked team with several multiple bigs that have been starters on the team in previous seasons. Just because he's not starting doesn't mean that he isn't better than any of the other players on the team from an NBA standpoint. We're talking about a team that just massacred top 5 ranked Kansas by 32 points last night (72-40). In 18 minutes, Towns scored 9 points, pulled down 9 rebounds, blocked 4 shots and dished out 3 assists. Towns defense was a big factor in the demolition of the Jayhawks. And the only reason he played just 18 minutes was because the game was hitting garbage time by halftime.

[PMFJB]

LMAO. You've gotta be kidding.



Towns, IMO. More quickness, arms almost as long as Okafor's, and is more mobile.

The last guy I remember not starting and touted as a top pick was that bust Marvin Williams.

Towns is not a good defender. Not saying that Okafor is great but Towns is not currently a difference maker on defense.

He is an excellent passer which would fit the triangle. The is the ONLY reason I would take a look at him. I could be wrong but I get the bust sense from him.

Okafor I think will be a solid player.

But who cares about these two Mudaiay or bust.

Towns is on a stacked team with several multiple bigs that have been starters on the team in previous seasons. Just because he's not starting doesn't mean that he isn't better than any of the other players on the team from an NBA standpoint. We're talking about a team that just massacred top 5 ranked Kansas by 32 points last night (72-40). In 18 minutes, Towns scored 9 points, pulled down 9 rebounds, blocked 4 shots and dished out 3 assists. Towns defense was a big factor in the demolition of the Jayhawks. And the only reason he played just 18 minutes was because the game was hitting garbage time by halftime.

I understand but if you are that much more talented (better) than the incumbent regime you would be starting.

Do you think Tim Duncan would be on the bench in that team as a rookie?

My point is that if he can't even crack the starting rotation on a college team than I am weary of him. I could be wrong. But I just go by what history says.

I do think he is an excellent passer from what I saw last night.

My concerns are on the defensive end. Because his offense is not polished enough to overcome that. Plus his passing abilities are a bit diminished if he doesn't get doubled in the NBA. Which at this point I don't know his game is polished enough to be. Again I could be wrong. I am not saying I am an expert on college basketball.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Towns doesn't even start for his team???? Pass.

LMAO. You've gotta be kidding.

is towns or okafor projected to be the better defender?

Towns, IMO. More quickness, arms almost as long as Okafor's, and is more mobile.

The last guy I remember not starting and touted as a top pick was that bust Marvin Williams.

Towns is not a good defender. Not saying that Okafor is great but Towns is not currently a difference maker on defense.

He is an excellent passer which would fit the triangle. The is the ONLY reason I would take a look at him. I could be wrong but I get the bust sense from him.

Okafor I think will be a solid player.

But who cares about these two Mudaiay or bust.

He's more mobile than Okafor and can guard in space better. Okafor might be the better one on one post defender, but Towns definitely has more defensive potential simply because he's the better athlete. Let's not act as if Okafor is a difference maker defensively at this stage...

He's also incredibly versatile offensively. Inside game, outside game, AND he reads double teams and passes out of them really well. You're the only person who gets the bust sense from him out of scouts, gms, and other posters on the site, but okay.

Also, he does start. There is simply a whole lot wrong with your last two posts.


**Last time -- I love Mudiay, but he doesn't fit the triangle either.

[PMFJB]

LMAO. You've gotta be kidding.



Towns, IMO. More quickness, arms almost as long as Okafor's, and is more mobile.

The last guy I remember not starting and touted as a top pick was that bust Marvin Williams.

Towns is not a good defender. Not saying that Okafor is great but Towns is not currently a difference maker on defense.

He is an excellent passer which would fit the triangle. The is the ONLY reason I would take a look at him. I could be wrong but I get the bust sense from him.

Okafor I think will be a solid player.

But who cares about these two Mudaiay or bust.

He's more mobile than Okafor and can guard in space better. Okafor might be the better one on one post defender, but Towns definitely has more defensive potential simply because he's the better athlete. Let's not act as if Okafor is a difference maker defensively at this stage...

He's also incredibly versatile offensively. Inside game, outside game, AND he reads double teams and passes out of them really well. You're the only person who gets the bust sense from him out of scouts, gms, and other posters on the site, but okay.

Also, he does start. There is simply a whole lot wrong with your last two posts.

I already said I am not an expert on college ball. This is just my opinion. Telling me no one else agrees doesn't change that.

I never said Okafor was a defensive stopper. I just see better defense from him.

We need defense not more offense. As this season shows.

Also looking at how many draft busts there are who were highly touted in college, if I am going against what scouts are saying I am probably in the right track.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Okafor is a better post defender. That is it. He doesn't guard in space better and doesn't have nearly as much defensive potential as Towns has. You can admit you have never seen Towns play, which is clearly evident from your few posts on him. There are players who I haven't seen play and I come here to get information on them.

Not sure if you saw my edit -- I love Mudiay, but he doesn't fit the triangle either.

Dude, you are FAR from the "right track." But...whatever makes you sleep easier.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Also Marvin Williams has absolutely NOTHING in common with Towns.

[PMFJB]

Okafor is a better post defender. That is it. He doesn't guard in space better and doesn't have nearly as much defensive potential as Towns has. You can admit you have never seen Towns play, which is clearly evident from your few posts on him. There are players who I haven't seen play and I come here to get information on them.

Not sure if you saw my edit -- I love Mudiay, but he doesn't fit the triangle either.

Dude, you are FAR from the "right track." But...whatever makes you sleep easier.

I just told you I saw Towns play last night. I watched the game instead of that terrible Knicks game. His passing is superb and that is it.

I saw Okafor play and I don't think he is this stud. But he is better than Towns imo.

As far as your little jab aka right track comment. Please tell me the lotto numbers since right now all either one of us has is opinions on what these players will be in the nba. Your opinion is not any more valid than mine when it comes to that.

Unless you can see the future and know what their nba careers will be. Who wins the 2016 title if that is the case? Thanks in advance.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Okafor is a better post defender. That is it. He doesn't guard in space better and doesn't have nearly as much defensive potential as Towns has. You can admit you have never seen Towns play, which is clearly evident from your few posts on him. There are players who I haven't seen play and I come here to get information on them.

Not sure if you saw my edit -- I love Mudiay, but he doesn't fit the triangle either.

Dude, you are FAR from the "right track." But...whatever makes you sleep easier.

I just told you I saw Towns play last night. I watched the game instead of that terrible Knicks game. His passing is superb and that is it.

I saw Okafor play and I don't think he is this stud. But he is better than Towns imo.

As far as your little jab aka right track comment. Please tell me the lotto numbers since right now all either one of us has is opinions on what these players will be in the nba. Your opinion is not any more valid than mine when it comes to that.

Unless you can see the future and know what their nba careers will be. Who wins the 2016 title if that is the case? Thanks in advance.

I think your opinion and comments on his skill set (as well as you saying he doesn't start) show that my opinion is more valid that yours, but okay.

I don't believe the bold Have a good day, buddy.

[JBreezeNY]

Okafor is a better post defender. That is it. He doesn't guard in space better and doesn't have nearly as much defensive potential as Towns has. You can admit you have never seen Towns play, which is clearly evident from your few posts on him. There are players who I haven't seen play and I come here to get information on them.

Not sure if you saw my edit -- I love Mudiay, but he doesn't fit the triangle either.

Dude, you are FAR from the "right track." But...whatever makes you sleep easier.

I just told you I saw Towns play last night. I watched the game instead of that terrible Knicks game. His passing is superb and that is it.

I saw Okafor play and I don't think he is this stud. But he is better than Towns imo.

As far as your little jab aka right track comment. Please tell me the lotto numbers since right now all either one of us has is opinions on what these players will be in the nba. Your opinion is not any more valid than mine when it comes to that.

Unless you can see the future and know what their nba careers will be. Who wins the 2016 title if that is the case? Thanks in advance.

I watched Towns play last night as well and if passing is the only thing you took from him then you clearly didn't watch close enough.

His positioning on defense is great, you don't have to tell him where to go & stand on defense he naturally knows where to box out & how to position himself, he's very good at boxing out & he doesn't get baited into silly fouls aka he holds his ground when an opposing player is going up for a shot and has the instinct when to jump for block and when not to.