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Post#1 » by JTrain » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:17 am

If you take every five-man lineup in the NBA that has played at least 10 minutes together and rank them by +/- per 48, here are the top 20:

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Three Suns groups in the top six!

What the hell is going on?

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Post#2 » by Revived » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:28 am

Kinda shocker that the +/- King, Channing Frye, isn't on there for top 5.

Even more surprising that Orlando's best lineup doesn't even include Frye! :lol:

I'm just kidding Los Soles and others...
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Post#3 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:52 am

Good days are here to come. Don;t forgot Suns are best ft shooting team in the NBA. Is there anything this team cant do? :D
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Post#4 » by NTB » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:16 am

SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Good days are here to come. Don;t forgot Suns are best ft shooting team in the NBA. Is there anything this team cant do? :D


Bledsoe is trying to ruin that with his missing FTs. :(
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Post#5 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:28 pm

JTrain wrote:If you take every five-man lineup in the NBA that has played at least 10 minutes together and rank them by +/-, here are the top 20:

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Three Suns groups in the top six!

What the hell is going on?

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Take the minutes played into consideration. All of those were when IT and Green were clicking in those early games...in spurts. It isn't sustainable.

We really need to play Bledsoe and Dragic with three other good starters for the most part, with Green in there occasionally with one of them, and whenever IT is in the game, he needs to play with Green, and he NEEDs to be persuaded to give the ball up to the big in the game. If all he does is shoot or give it to Green, the scouts will figure this out and stop us eventually.

We need to maximize what we get out of IT when he DOES play, so he is extremely tradeable, but don't play him much, if at all with Dragic and Bledsoe because it takes away from what they do best.
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Post#6 » by Calvin Klein » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:52 pm

The reason Green and IT are there is because they were part of a couple of comeback wins and got hot during the comeback. Purely on ISO ball and chucking.

That doesn't mean they are playing actual good winning basketball.

That sample is too small. Let's see if they are there by the end of the season.
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Post#7 » by bigfoot » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:12 pm

Quite simple ... these are lineups feasting off of the other teams bench. Our bench scoring is top 2 in the entire league. Thomas, Green, and Tucker have all played significant starter minutes in their careers. It kinda makes sense.

If we could get our turnovers under control and start hitting some of these wide open shots we've been missing we are going to be a force.
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Post#8 » by JTrain » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:18 pm

I understand the sample size is obviously small at this point in the season, but I did eliminate 1000+ combinations by filtering with a minimum of 10 MP. It's still pretty crazy that multiple Suns units are that high.

By the way, the OP pic hadn't counted last nights games yet. Here is the updated top 20 (out of 312 total)

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Obviously it will change a lot quickly at this point in the season but it will be interesting to follow. I'll post another one in a couple weeks with a 20 MP min.
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Post#9 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:58 am

Common factors. Green, IT, and Keef. Call it what you will. It might be a small sample size but it's a dominant representation.

No combo of Dragic and Bledsoe is represented and one of those lineups didn't contain either of them.

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