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OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#141 » by Dominator83 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:43 pm

H_20 wrote:What is this i hear that WWE is thinking about letting Cesaro go after his contract is up? Really,Vince?

What a bunch of B.S. Best worker in the company imo. They really dropped the ball on him. Had all that momentum after winning the battle royal at WM, and went nowhere with it
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#142 » by IMAN5 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:59 pm

WWE squashed Dolph for a VERRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY long time, even though the WWE Fans were heavily behind him.

It took a while but he finally got the IC Title (even though he now lost it) and is in the main event and the strongest guy on team Cena after Cena himself.

I hope Cesaro will get his. He is a face, they need to stop trying to make him a heel.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#143 » by IMAN5 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:02 pm

I read somewhere that Rowan was added last second because Sheamus was banged up and during the Big Show match he suffered a legitimate injury. Henry putting him through a table probably made it worse too. I thought it was storyline but he's going under the knife for multiple things.

The Cesaro thing was hilarious but also annoying because I thought he was finally gonna get his chance.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#144 » by Bill Pidto » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:12 pm

IMAN5 wrote:WWE squashed Dolph for a VERRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY long time, even though the WWE Fans were heavily behind him.

It took a while but he finally got the IC Title (even though he now lost it) and is in the main event and the strongest guy on team Cena after Cena himself.

I hope Cesaro will get his. He is a face, they need to stop trying to make him a heel.


This is what WWE does now, and I kinda like it. It's sort of a slow burn on someone's character. Don't give the fans everything at once. They know once Cesaro is finally elevated back to some sort of main event status, the fans will eat it up and he will be viable for the rest of his time there.

At this point, we all know wrestling is staged, so it kinda makes sense to create a reality-based angle around the idea that the "authority" really is some type of real-life heel who holds back talent that people think deserve more chances. Like I said, when Cesaro finally enters the picture again like they teased on Monday, the fans will rejoice and feel like they've won something. I can't be mad at WWE for that. It's smart.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#145 » by IMAN5 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:21 pm

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IMAN5 wrote:WWE squashed Dolph for a VERRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY long time, even though the WWE Fans were heavily behind him.

It took a while but he finally got the IC Title (even though he now lost it) and is in the main event and the strongest guy on team Cena after Cena himself.

I hope Cesaro will get his. He is a face, they need to stop trying to make him a heel.


This is what WWE does now, and I kinda like it. It's sort of a slow burn on someone's character. Don't give the fans everything at once. They know once Cesaro is finally elevated back to some sort of main event status, the fans will eat it up and he will be viable for the rest of his time there.

At this point, we all know wrestling is staged, so it kinda makes sense to create a reality-based angle around the idea that the "authority" really is some type of real-life heel who holds back talent that people think deserve more chances. Like I said, when Cesaro finally enters the picture again like they teased on Monday, the fans will rejoice and feel like they've won something. I can't be mad at WWE for that. It's smart.


IF and it's a big IF WWE goes down that route, then yeah I'm cool with it. like how WWE fans are to thank for Daniel Bryan and the Yes Chant getting him a main event win at WrestleMania.

We'll see though, hopefully he doesn't become one of many guys with potential that were forgotten or lost in the loop.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#146 » by nyknicks8016 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:22 pm

The reason Ziggler was never pushed was because he was always getting banged up. They didnt want to put the belt on someone who was always getting banged up...It was never about talent it was abou tlongevity...

Same reason they were hesitant to give it to Bryan and look what happened his career may be over....

Punk worked hurt his entire title reign...Vince does not like putting the title on small guys...Shawn Michaels being the exception and he has a ton of injuries and his career was thought to be over when he hurt his back...he could barely move during his match against Stone Cold...
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Post#147 » by Bill Pidto » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:07 pm

IMAN5 wrote:
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IMAN5 wrote:WWE squashed Dolph for a VERRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY long time, even though the WWE Fans were heavily behind him.

It took a while but he finally got the IC Title (even though he now lost it) and is in the main event and the strongest guy on team Cena after Cena himself.

I hope Cesaro will get his. He is a face, they need to stop trying to make him a heel.


This is what WWE does now, and I kinda like it. It's sort of a slow burn on someone's character. Don't give the fans everything at once. They know once Cesaro is finally elevated back to some sort of main event status, the fans will eat it up and he will be viable for the rest of his time there.

At this point, we all know wrestling is staged, so it kinda makes sense to create a reality-based angle around the idea that the "authority" really is some type of real-life heel who holds back talent that people think deserve more chances. Like I said, when Cesaro finally enters the picture again like they teased on Monday, the fans will rejoice and feel like they've won something. I can't be mad at WWE for that. It's smart.


IF and it's a big IF WWE goes down that route, then yeah I'm cool with it. like how WWE fans are to thank for Daniel Bryan and the Yes Chant getting him a main event win at WrestleMania.

We'll see though, hopefully he doesn't become one of many guys with potential that were forgotten or lost in the loop.


I think they did the same exact thing with Bryan. They knew the fans wanted it. They teased everyone for a while, created the perception that he was being held down by the real-life authority but was able to overcome it at Mania. The story wrote itself. And it made the fans feel like they were totally responsible. They played it perfectly IMO.

I don't for one second believe that Batista was actually going to win it all. They were just playing with the fans and setting the stage for Bryan.
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Post#148 » by Bill Pidto » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:08 pm

nyknicks8016 wrote:Punk worked hurt his entire title reign...Vince does not like putting the title on small guys...Shawn Michaels being the exception and he has a ton of injuries and his career was thought to be over when he hurt his back...he could barely move during his match against Stone Cold...


That match is amazing to me for that reason. Shawn took some bumps in that match that really make you cringe when you realize how much pain he was in. You can see him laboring at some points, but he still gave it his all.

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Post#149 » by wolfv » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:53 pm

HBK could be in tremendous pain, or high out of his mind, or both, and he would still put on the best match of the night.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#150 » by Meat » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:11 pm

nyknicks8016 wrote:Punk worked hurt his entire title reign...Vince does not like putting the title on small guys...Shawn Michaels being the exception and he has a ton of injuries and his career was thought to be over when he hurt his back...he could barely move during his match against Stone Cold...


that funny part is steroids that the bigger guys take make them wayy more susceptible to **** like muscle and tendon tears.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#151 » by frogfood » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:24 pm

Meat wrote:
nyknicks8016 wrote:Punk worked hurt his entire title reign...Vince does not like putting the title on small guys...Shawn Michaels being the exception and he has a ton of injuries and his career was thought to be over when he hurt his back...he could barely move during his match against Stone Cold...


that funny part is steroids that the bigger guys take make them wayy more susceptible to **** like muscle and tendon tears.


Big Poppa Pump anyone? That guy was immobile by the time he returned t the WWE.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#152 » by Meat » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:26 pm

frogfood wrote:
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nyknicks8016 wrote:Punk worked hurt his entire title reign...Vince does not like putting the title on small guys...Shawn Michaels being the exception and he has a ton of injuries and his career was thought to be over when he hurt his back...he could barely move during his match against Stone Cold...


that funny part is steroids that the bigger guys take make them wayy more susceptible to **** like muscle and tendon tears.


Big Poppa Pump anyone? That guy was immobile by the time he returned t the WWE.

hell h.h.h has torn both quads off the bone. the left one i remember was against y2j his quads rolled up like a venetian blind
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#153 » by Trav_NYK » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:33 pm

So now the main event at Survivor Series is a 6 on 5 lol

I guess when Cesaro came and then went to the Authority side that was them showing that he is now in the match, they should have made that a little bit clearer lol
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#154 » by jonny31623 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:55 am

anyone catch the end of survivor series?????????

STINGERRRRR IS BACKKKKK!!!!!!!!
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#155 » by Kn1cksNation » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:05 am

jonny31623 wrote:anyone catch the end of survivor series?????????

STINGERRRRR IS BACKKKKK!!!!!!!!



I loved the ending, so epic, dolph got his and sting made his first ever appearance in a wwe ring
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Post#156 » by DowNY » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:13 am

Dolph is the new HBK
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Post#157 » by kingquan316 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:25 am

Dolph should be main event status from now on, u can't give that rub and waste it.

Putting on my fantasy booking cap
-Since Cena is the only one that can bring back the authority, and the uncertainty of resigning Brock Lesnar, I would have Cena be desperate to beat Brock Lesnar and make a deal with the Authority to let them come back and help him screw over Brock Lesnar at the Rumble. Cena would be the lead heel and champion for the returning Authority, and then have Reigns be the one that takes him down at Mania for the title. Of course this has less than 1% of happening, but having Cena be the one that has the power to bring them back has to have some meaning. Although it would hurt Brock's status, if he isn't resigning then there isn't a real emphasis of keeping him strong.
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Post#158 » by Heat3 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:40 am

Man this was a great PPV imo. With so many guys injured and the main event teams seeming to be just thrown together at the last minute I wasn't expecting much. After all they were giving it away for free :lol: But I gotta say I thoroughly enjoyed it. Me and the rest of the crowd were thinking Orton would come out to save the day instead its Sting! No super Cena, instead we see super Ziggler. Paige getting a beat down and some Bella on AJ action and Steph doing a her meltdown at the end. I was pleased :D

I'm guessing this sets up a Sting/HHH match down the line as a retirement match or something.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#159 » by Meat » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:09 am

kingquan316 wrote:Dolph should be main event status from now on, u can't give that rub and waste it.

Putting on my fantasy booking cap
-Since Cena is the only one that can bring back the authority, and the uncertainty of resigning Brock Lesnar, I would have Cena be desperate to beat Brock Lesnar and make a deal with the Authority to let them come back and help him screw over Brock Lesnar at the Rumble. Cena would be the lead heel and champion for the returning Authority, and then have Reigns be the one that takes him down at Mania for the title. Of course this has less than 1% of happening, but having Cena be the one that has the power to bring them back has to have some meaning. Although it would hurt Brock's status, if he isn't resigning then there isn't a real emphasis of keeping him strong.

enough with the cena heel turn, his value to the wwe trumps anything that a little ratings boost would give.
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Post#160 » by xNewYorkMadex » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:13 am

Awesome Sting debut.

Had goosebumps all over. Heard about the Sting rumors, and how it was "confirmed" that he would be there, but I still had my doubts. Thought it would make much more sense for Randy to return since it was in his hometown. Also didnt see a scenario how Sting would fit into the match. But it turned out great.

I dont think this sets up a Sting vs HHH WM match. Its a definite possibility but Its too early for that. Maybe Royal Rumble? I wonder what they will do with Sting now. Maybe be the Raw GM, but thats just a guess. It'll be cool if he had 3-4 matches in WWE before he retires with the right opponents.
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