Monday NOV 24th GT - Feature game - RAPS vs SUNS

RaptorNews · Post #181 » by **RaptorNews** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:03 am

Asif16 wrote:Lol holy ****....the Suns completely live and die by the Threes.

Its crazy. The team has absolutely no post game. Cant do anything other than chuck threes smh.

Dragic is incredible at getting to the rim.

Theyre a very smart team.

hands11 · Post #182 » by **hands11** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:03 am

Hendrix wrote:
hands11 wrote:
But there was a little home cooking there at the end for the Raps.

How? The jump ball? Not seeing what was wrong with that. Bledsoe initiated all the contact on his trip to the line, and got the call for the Suns. Also, the Refs basically gave Suns an 8 point swing at the end of the 2nd half.

Just saying what I saw. Neither team is my team.

That jump ball was in IT hands. I didnt see a TOR player with the ball there.

Lowry tipped it out. Sure. But he never had it. IT grabbed it and spun. Then some TOR player came diving over the top of the pile. That should have been a foul right there.

TOR still deserved to win. They played a more sound game. Got the lead. Absorbed the run. Made plays down the stretch.

Actually, I would even like to see that out of bounds on the baseline again. He got bodied pretty good and I never actually saw his foot go out. Not saying it didnt. I just didnt see it.

grumpysaddle · Post #183 » by **grumpysaddle** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:03 am

I don't mind the Suns chucking 3s this game. They were down 17, and it gave them like... a 13 or 14-0 run in a minute and a half.

The Suns also lead the league in layups made, so they aren't just a 3 point chucking team. I'm not saying they don't have a lot of major flaws, though.

NinjaBro · Post #184 » by **NinjaBro** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:03 am

Good win. Suns are super annoying chucking 3 after 3, Casey had no choice but to take Val out to go small and defend the perimeter. Huge clutch FtTs by Demar.

Hendrix · Post #185 » by **Hendrix** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:03 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Hendrix wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:Toronto Reftors.

You have to be kidding....

If it wasn't a foul, it was definitely a timeout. Somehow it ends up being a jumpball. Raptors go up by 4, instead of potential tie. So, yes... Toronto Reftors this game. Don't even try to say it was called evenly in the beginning of the game either. Valanciunas was going over backs all over the place, but both Suns' centers were taken out of the game with ticky-tack foul calls. Call games both ways... I ain't even mad, though. Suns played with a lot of heart there.

The Refs literally gave the Suns an 8 point swing in the second quarter. The Raps should have been up a dozen going into the locker room, not a close game. And, Bledsoe initiated all the contact on his trip to the FT line. Cry me a river that mayyyybeee a call went our way. From the angle I saw on my feed I didn't see any problems with it. Lowry got the deflection. Jumped on the ground, then Amir came in and jumped in too. That's all I saw.

suns91fan · Post #186 » by **suns91fan** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:04 am

wicked_crossova wrote:lol at Suns fans talking trash, your team just chucked the entire 4th and got lucky half the time. Next time they'll be buried when literally everything Green and Tucker throw up doesnt go in

I'd rather my team chuck all game, than get some imaginary calls by refs all game long. If Suns got just some of the calls, maybe they wouldn't need to shoot threes the whole time. But i guess it's normal that home team gets three times more free throws than the other team...

Asif16 · Post #187 » by **Asif16** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:04 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Hendrix wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:Toronto Reftors.

You have to be kidding....

If it wasn't a foul, it was definitely a timeout. Somehow it ends up being a jumpball. Raptors go up by 4, instead of potential tie. So, yes... Toronto Reftors this game. Don't even try to say it was called evenly in the beginning of the game either. Valanciunas was going over backs all over the place, but both Suns' centers were taken out of the game with ticky-tack foul calls. Call games both ways... I ain't even mad, though. Suns played with a lot of heart there.

Lol are you kidding. Kyle lowry completely got the ball not to mention amir johnson came in. In fact, not only should it have been a jump ball, amir should have been jumping instead of lowry.

And dont even get me started on all the non-calls. Kyle lowry got murdered by tucker and morris a couple of times and didnt get called. Goes both ways bud

Hendrix · Post #188 » by **Hendrix** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:05 am

hands11 wrote:
Hendrix wrote:
hands11 wrote:
But there was a little home cooking there at the end for the Raps.

How? The jump ball? Not seeing what was wrong with that. Bledsoe initiated all the contact on his trip to the line, and got the call for the Suns. Also, the Refs basically gave Suns an 8 point swing at the end of the 2nd half.

Just saying what I saw. Neither team is my team.

That jump ball was in IT hands. I didnt see a TOR player with the ball there.

Lowry tipped it out. Sure. But he never had it. IT grabbed it and spun. Then some TOR player came diving over the top of the pile. That should have been a foul right there.

TOR still deserved to win. They played a more sound game. Got the lead. Absorbed the run. Made plays down the stretch.

Actually, I would even like to see that out of bounds on the baseline again. He got bodied pretty good and I never actually saw his foot go out. Not saying it didnt. I just didnt see it.

Maybe it was just me not seeing a good angle of that possession. I saw Lowry get a good deflection, dive on the ground for the ball, then a bunch of players on top of each other.

Are you talking about the last play with Green in your last paragraph? They refs reviewed it. They showed a replay on my feed, and he just threw it out of bounds with no one touching him.

Asif16 · Post #189 » by **Asif16** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:05 am

suns91fan wrote:
wicked_crossova wrote:lol at Suns fans talking trash, your team just chucked the entire 4th and got lucky half the time. Next time they'll be buried when literally everything Green and Tucker throw up doesnt go in

I'd rather my team chuck all game, than get some imaginary calls by refs all game long. If Suns got just some of the calls, maybe they wouldn't need to shoot threes the whole time. But i guess it's normal that home team gets three times more free throws than the other team...

Lol what the **** do you expect when your team chucks up threes all day?? Are you kidding me?? You want the refs to call fould on three pointers?? :lol:

Post #190 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:05 am

Great game. I would NOT want to face the Suns in the playoffs. Just a pesky, talented team. If they had a legic/decent center, they'd be super scary.

Still not sure why we didn't force feed Val to the tune of 40 points.

Moneytalks · Post #191 » by **Moneytalks** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:06 am

Raps are more mature now, a year ago they would have lost this kind of game.
great defensive identity, and lowry is awesome.

only negative is demar's chucking, it's going under the radar because team is rolling, but he's in a horrible slump right now.
he's never been a very efficient scorer, but his 40.5% is a career worst. I understand that now he's facing double teams more often than not, but seriously need to improve his reads on that and kick it out more.

italbeans88 · Post #192 » by **italbeans88** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:07 am

Walid wrote:Everyone tune in to watch the Raptors get manhandled.

Ur A Winner

grumpysaddle · Post #193 » by **grumpysaddle** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:07 am

Welp... I'm out of here. Not about to have a stupid argument about reffing with delusional fans.

I like the Raptors as a team, but man, they have some sensitive, defensive fans.

Asif16 · Post #194 » by **Asif16** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:07 am

Moneytalks wrote:Raps are more mature now, a year ago they would have lost this kind of game.
great defensive identity, and lowry is awesome.

only negative is demar's chucking, it's going under the radar because team is rolling, but he's in a horrible slump right now.
he's never been a very efficient scorer, but his 40.5% is a career worst. I understand that now he's facing double teams more often than not, but seriously need to improve his reads on that and kick it out more.

Lol trust me everyone knows. Half the raptor fanbase hates demars chucking and bricking. Just go to our board.

Asif16 · Post #195 » by **Asif16** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:08 am

Suns fans bringing up free throw differential and ref bias, when all their team does is chuck threes.

Smart.

hands11 · Post #196 » by **hands11** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:09 am

RaptorNews wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Lol holy ****....the Suns completely live and die by the Threes.

Its crazy. The team has absolutely no post game. Cant do anything other than chuck threes smh.

Dragic is incredible at getting to the rim.

Theyre a very smart team.

Len is still really young and missed most of last year.

I missed the early part. How did Miles Plumlee get 3 fouls in 5 minutes. Where they all legit ?

whysoserious · Post #197 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:09 am

hands11 wrote:Actually, I would even like to see that out of bounds on the baseline again. He got bodied pretty good and I never actually saw his foot go out. Not saying it didnt. I just didnt see it.

Green wasn't called out of bounds, he was called for hooking Patterson with his elbow on that play. I thought it was out of bounds initially but he was called for a foul on the hook.

NinjaBro · Post #198 » by **NinjaBro** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:10 am

Asif16 wrote:
suns91fan wrote:
wicked_crossova wrote:lol at Suns fans talking trash, your team just chucked the entire 4th and got lucky half the time. Next time they'll be buried when literally everything Green and Tucker throw up doesnt go in

I'd rather my team chuck all game, than get some imaginary calls by refs all game long. If Suns got just some of the calls, maybe they wouldn't need to shoot threes the whole time. But i guess it's normal that home team gets three times more free throws than the other team...

Lol what the **** do you expect when your team chucks up threes all day?? Are you kidding me?? You want the refs to call fould on three pointers??

Exactly. Raps were going inside to val and crashing the paint all game drawing fouls while Suns were chucking 3s all game. What were you expecting?

Hendrix · Post #199 » by **Hendrix** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:10 am

Moneytalks wrote:Raps are more mature now, a year ago they would have lost this kind of game.
great defensive identity, and lowry is awesome.

only negative is demar's chucking, it's going under the radar because team is rolling, but he's in a horrible slump right now.
he's never been a very efficient scorer, but his 40.5% is a career worst. I understand that now he's facing double teams more often than not, but seriously need to improve his reads on that and kick it out more.

Yeah DD's game is annoying at times. You learn to live with it. He's a very good player but has some warts. I expect him to round into form though. He has good stretches and bad stretches, and it normally evens out to about league average efficiency. Right now's he's just going through a bad stretch.

BasketballAbyss · Post #200 » by **BasketballAbyss** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 am

suns91fan wrote:
wicked_crossova wrote:lol at Suns fans talking trash, your team just chucked the entire 4th and got lucky half the time. Next time they'll be buried when literally everything Green and Tucker throw up doesnt go in

I'd rather my team chuck all game, than get some imaginary calls by refs all game long. If Suns got just some of the calls, maybe they wouldn't need to shoot threes the whole time. But i guess it's normal that home team gets three times more free throws than the other team...

You guys shot 33 threes. We're not fouling your guys at the three point line. We had more free throws because our guards were driving to the rim the entire game. It's not rocket science.