Mike D'Antoni vs. Byron Scott

[mcscotty]

MDA >>>>>> Scott

At the very least, MDA has an offensive plan that no one can much. Defensive is

I feel like any high school coach is better than Scott. I have no idea what is Lakers offense or defense is. There is no 3s, no PnR, no ball movement.

Kobe iso, and no D.

[Mamba Venom]

People hate on Scott. He got to the Finals twice w/ the Nets and won COY w/ the Hornets. We beat them in the 2nd round. They were solid with less talent than our Lakers. Scott needs a top 5 PG and a great big man to be successful. D'Antonie needs a top 5 PG and no defense to be successful. I don't D'Antonie ever making the Finals because his system can't hold up late into the play-offs where Scott's system has been proven. The old school approach to winning. Scott appreciates showtime obviously but knows how unique it was and is smart enough not to replicate it. D'Antonie's gift is he can take a bunch of scrubs and make them almost .500 which is really a curse because it knocks you out of the draft.

[ChokeFasncists]

No contest.

This team is historically bad defensively and MDA is obviously the better offensive coach. I wonder if he would still resign if he knew Lin would be traded for, and if he's here, what exciting bball we'd be watching. Why, why, why???

Of course, Scott is better at commanding!

I don't know why people keep saying this. Our team offensive rating is good for 14th in the league so far with minimal sync. Our offensive rating even when we were 0.500 last season for the first 20 or so games was 22nd and below league average.

The team TS% this season is well below league average so it means we just have terrible shooters but still we manage to do well offensively because we are top 5 in drawing FTs per FGAs (TY Kobe) and offensive rebounding percentage (TY Hill).

We are not even a slow pace team this season, we are 7th in the league in terms of pace. The offense is just not the issue. Never was. It surely could improve if Kobe played smarter and some other guys pulled their heads out of their asses to make some perimeter shots. D'Antoni had 4 players shooting over 40% from 3 and Nick Young just around 39%. Scott's barely had that kind of weapons.

Our defense this season is historically bad. One of the reasons is that we foul a **** load, conceding the 2nd most FTs per FGA for any team.

Keep saying what? This team is historically bad defensively that's a fact. That MDA is the better offensive coach? MDA has shown that with the right personnel he's one of the best in the league in offense, it's well known. It's just that his D sucks. I don't think it's fair to say MDA isn't good at O just by last year. Unfortunately his O didn't fit with his best player left Gasol, as the two best players, Kobe and Nash, were out.

Scott's teams, including NJ, were never great at O. He has to get the D to play good in order to be considered better than MDA. He starts two bigs who are bad at help and interior d. I give him a break tho cuz maybe he's trying get that pick. It's no knock on him to say that his O isn't as good as MDA, it's the D that's the main problem, and there should be no doubt cuz it's historically bad.

Whenever he decides to start Davis and have Boozer off the bench, pretty much the only sensible solution, I'll change my tune. But again, the pick? ~lol~

[Slava]

No contest.

This team is historically bad defensively and MDA is obviously the better offensive coach. I wonder if he would still resign if he knew Lin would be traded for, and if he's here, what exciting bball we'd be watching. Why, why, why???

Of course, Scott is better at commanding!

I don't know why people keep saying this. Our team offensive rating is good for 14th in the league so far with minimal sync. Our offensive rating even when we were 0.500 last season for the first 20 or so games was 22nd and below league average.

The team TS% this season is well below league average so it means we just have terrible shooters but still we manage to do well offensively because we are top 5 in drawing FTs per FGAs (TY Kobe) and offensive rebounding percentage (TY Hill).

We are not even a slow pace team this season, we are 7th in the league in terms of pace. The offense is just not the issue. Never was. It surely could improve if Kobe played smarter and some other guys pulled their heads out of their asses to make some perimeter shots. D'Antoni had 4 players shooting over 40% from 3 and Nick Young just around 39%. Scott's barely had that kind of weapons.

Our defense this season is historically bad. One of the reasons is that we foul a **** load, conceding the 2nd most FTs per FGA for any team.

Keep saying what? This team is historically bad defensively that's a fact. That MDA is the better offensive coach? MDA has shown that with the right personnel he's one of the best in the league in offense, it's well known. It's just that his D sucks. I don't think it's fair to say MDA isn't good at O just by last year. Unfortunately his O didn't fit with his best player left Gasol, as the two best players, Kobe and Nash, were out.

Scott's teams, including NJ, were never great at O. He has to get the D to play good in order to be considered better than MDA. He starts two bigs who are bad at help and interior d. I give him a break tho cuz maybe he's trying get that pick. It's no knock on him to say that his O isn't as good as MDA, it's the D that's the main problem, and there should be no doubt cuz it's historically bad.

Whenever he decides to start Davis and have Boozer off the bench, pretty much the only sensible solution, I'll change my tune. But again, the pick? ~lol~

You're all over the place here. You first say Mike D'Antoni has done well with good players and then go onto say that Scott is playing two big men who can't defend the paint. Well.. guess what, Scott had zero input on the roster he has and except for Ellington and Price most guys were here before he was even hired and its not like he's making the wrong choice from his options either as validated by Davis fouling out in 20 mins in his first start.

Scott also had the chance to see the finals with Nets, something MDA never did and Scott coached a team in the Hornets that was 5th in the league in offensive rating and 7th in defensive rating. Mike D never did that, his best defensive teams were around league average. Check your facts before countering mine.

[Asianiac_24]

Mike Brown is better than both IMO. I think we gave up on MB way faster than we should have, we were third in the West in 2012 when he was coaching.

[ChokeFasncists]

You're all over the place here. You first say Mike D'Antoni has done well with good players and then go onto say that Scott is playing two big men who can't defend the paint. Well.. guess what, Scott had zero input on the roster he has and except for Ellington and Price most guys were here before he was even hired and its not like he's making the wrong choice from his options either as validated by Davis fouling out in 20 mins in his first start.

You're stretching it here. Davis fouling out so what? The D was so much better. Let him foul out. Boozer can fill in just fine. As Davis gets more experience he'll get better at not fouling out. This is the coaching decision I'm talking about. I really don't think it's validated. It felt like a normal game finally, playing toe to toe with a healthy western conference team.

Scott also had the chance to see the finals with Nets, something MDA never did and Scott coached a team in the Hornets that was 5th in the league in offensive rating and 7th in defensive rating. Mike D never did that, his best defensive teams were around league average. Check your facts before countering mine.

I'm not sure what facts you're talking about. What I said was, MDA is better at O and Scott is better at D. But since this team is historically bad at D and he's not fixing it, I can't consider him good at D. When he fixes it it'd be a different story. I'm not saying he's a bad coach in general or always has been a bad coach. In fact, I had nothing but good things to say about him before the season. But maybe he's just aiming for the pick, so then it's not his fault.

[kblo247]

You would have to ignore Scott has sucked ads without Kidd, MArtin, Frank, Jordan to hide him. And yes they hid him.

- Marbury Nets, their D was 23/29 in the NBA
- Hornets with prime CP3 lost by 50
- Cavs made history losing 26 straight and having a bottom d for 3 straight years; brown actually had them playing better
- We are having an awful time on both ends. Dantoni struggled with D, and Brown struggled scoring under the Princeton; Scott is struggling to keep the team alive


Scott is, was, and forever will be one assclown of a coach who can't diagram an O, manage a D, and posses his teams off to they force him out with his bad people skills and long practices which never accomplish anything. He lost every team he coached for a reason, took 3 interviews for a reason, and is a sub 500 coach for a reason. HE IS TERRIBLE

Brown > Dantoni > Scott w/o Frank and Jordan holding his hand

[Kilroy]

Again... Nobody here truly thinks MDA is a good coach...

You all are just arguing which turd smells less... And it's been done to death.