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11/25 Warriors @ Heat 7:30PM SunSports/NBATV - AHHHHHH!!!

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Re: 11/25 Warriors @ Heat 7:30PM SunSports/NBATV - AHHHHHH!! 

Post#681 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:50 pm

UD4MVP wrote:Things I think need to happen for us going forward with the current roster at hand:
Demote NoCo
Start Bazz and Wade and have Rio play backup 2 which he has done well in for the most part
Healthy Wade of course
Integrate McBob more to supplant Shawne in the starting lineup, hes a sniper but if we're gonna save Bosh by him not guarding opposing centers it would be better to have McBob in that situation right?
Get Ennis's minutes up to consistent 18-20 and hope his jumper starts falling
See how Whiteside or Ham look


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Post#682 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:36 pm

We've got a pretty good team. Yeah we lost, but the Warriors are really damn good and we didn't have Wade in the lineup. If we had a Healthy Wade, we win.

Honestly, I am getting disappointed. Wade keeps missing games. Again. All that talk 2 years ago of Wade re-inventing himself and shedding weight hasn't helped.

The Wade we have always known is truly gone forever, and we will be lucky to get much out of him this year. Again.
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Re: 11/25 Warriors @ Heat 7:30PM SunSports/NBATV - AHHHHHH!! 

Post#683 » by contract » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:37 pm

The Miami Heat wrote:I cannot believe we went with a 3 guard lineup.

Is that because we have no guards? :lol:
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Post#684 » by contract » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:42 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:We've got a pretty good team.

No, we really don't. There are 30 teams in the NBA, and we're roughly in the middle of that pack. And that's with a "healthy" Wade. It just so happens that the bulk of the better teams are in the Western Conference.

That's the sad reality.
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Post#685 » by Sonny Carson » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:44 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:We've got a pretty good team. Yeah we lost, but the Warriors are really damn good and we didn't have Wade in the lineup. If we had a Healthy Wade, we win.

Honestly, I am getting disappointed. Wade keeps missing games. Again. All that talk 2 years ago of Wade re-inventing himself and shedding weight hasn't helped.

The Wade we have always known is truly gone forever, and we will be lucky to get much out of him this year. Again.


I'm not giving up hope on Wade. When he's played he's balled.

Just have to face the fact that Wade is going to miss 20 games a year. It is what it is.

Its probably why LeBeta left. But oh well. At least when Wade plays we STILL can be a top team in the east.
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Re: 11/25 Warriors @ Heat 7:30PM SunSports/NBATV - AHHHHHH!! 

Post#686 » by old rem » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:57 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:We've got a pretty good team. Yeah we lost, but the Warriors are really damn good and we didn't have Wade in the lineup. If we had a Healthy Wade, we win.

Honestly, I am getting disappointed. Wade keeps missing games. Again. All that talk 2 years ago of Wade re-inventing himself and shedding weight hasn't helped.

The Wade we have always known is truly gone forever, and we will be lucky to get much out of him this year. Again.
Wade is at an age where wings can lose a step...and for Wade.. that is a big deal. injuries do add up too.

Miami did well vs a hot GSW... then Curry lit it up. When he's in that zone...forget it. It's like a meteor shower.

Noticed Chalmers was looking good. Late bloomer? Ennis showed game. Heat still needs some depth.
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Post#687 » by dwade13 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:09 pm

We're only 15 games into a season with a complete different team than the years before. Plus we're playing another offense with our teamball instead of calling every play for James. The ball is moving pretty good at this stage and with McBob complete healthy and in rhythm with this team it'll be even better.
Napier and Ennis are getting better with every game and I think there's still a good chance we'll trade Cole together with Bird after Dec 16.

All this team has to do is getting used to each other and compete every game. We're getting better with every week, even without Wade.
I think you can judge the team after the AllStar Game, that's where they should played long enough together to get used to each other.
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Post#688 » by contract » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:28 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Just have to face the fact that Wade is going to miss 20 games a year. It is what it is.

At the rate he's going, he may miss 20 games by the All Star break.
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Post#689 » by dr3am » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:39 pm

Curry went HAM last night...But hey the result was predictable considering Wade still doesn't want to play smh


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Post#690 » by UD4MVP » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:55 pm

I just feel like NoCo is such a liability on offense, and he's not nearly as good defensively as like Tony Allen to make up for it. This team should be built for more spread out production and he doesn't really fit that.
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Post#691 » by DefenseWins » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:32 pm

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Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:We've got a pretty good team.

No, we really don't. There are 30 teams in the NBA, and we're roughly in the middle of that pack. And that's with a "healthy" Wade. It just so happens that the bulk of the better teams are in the Western Conference.

That's the sad reality.



I agree. I thought we'd win 50 games, but that was being nice. We are a 40-45(if we get on a roll) team. Like most predicted. Our defense is not as good as it once was. Yeah yeah new guys, but we have yet to see any sort of flash of what could be a great defense. Holding bad teams to 40% shooting and under 100 points don't count.

The Warriors did what we would do to teams. If anything they played like us when we were at our peak, except with one player hitting 8 3's.

They went in a hole, sure, because they didn't give a **** and we were trying to give it our best shot, because one of the Best of the West came in. Well guess what? They came back, without even trying that hard while we went back to being average. THEN, they just went and made a HUGE run in the 4th, where they turned it up (sounds familiar?). Average teams allow that **** to happen and this isn't the first time (and yes we had Wade the last time this happened). This is what it feels like to be on the other side, a change from the last 4 years.

A lot of people are confident saying "we aint got no worries" but uh... this TEAM does not have the same swag or identity as years past. **** even Spo's teams before the Big 3 era had better defense than this man.

I just hope to be atleast 5 games above .500 by the all-star break.

And we have average players, besides Bosh and Wade. Deng is above average, Rio had his moments (and fun) but everyone else are role, bench players and we have a few that are starters, and would start on this team.
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Post#692 » by gom » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:00 pm

I don't feel at all bad about losing to Golden State. Losing to Indiana and the Bucks and the Hawks? That sucked, but Golden State is going to be tough this year.

You guys really overreact about a loss. No, we are not a great team, but I don't think we were last year either and we got into the finals.
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Post#693 » by DWadeno3 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:16 pm

old rem wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:We've got a pretty good team. Yeah we lost, but the Warriors are really damn good and we didn't have Wade in the lineup. If we had a Healthy Wade, we win.

Honestly, I am getting disappointed. Wade keeps missing games. Again. All that talk 2 years ago of Wade re-inventing himself and shedding weight hasn't helped.

The Wade we have always known is truly gone forever, and we will be lucky to get much out of him this year. Again.
Wade is at an age where wings can lose a step...and for Wade.. that is a big deal. injuries do add up too.

Miami did well vs a hot GSW... then Curry lit it up. When he's in that zone...forget it. It's like a meteor shower.

Noticed Chalmers was looking good. Late bloomer? Ennis showed game. Heat still needs some depth.


Wade has lost a step about two years ago, so he's already past that development.

And no, we did not do well. Our offense completely collapsed in the second half and that is unacceptable. I understand defensive struggles with a new team but if you are rolling in the first half and then just fall apart in the second, that's flat out unacceptable. The problem is Chalmers, who has been one of our star players in recent games, has had an off night and nobody was there to make up for it. We really can't afford too many off nights by Rio due to our lack of scorers at the guard positions.
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Post#694 » by DefenseWins » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:46 pm

gom wrote:I don't feel at all bad about losing to Golden State. Losing to Indiana and the Bucks and the Hawks? That sucked, but Golden State is going to be tough this year.

You guys really overreact about a loss. No, we are not a great team, but I don't think we were last year either and we got into the finals.



True, I expected a loss, its just how we lost that sucked.

The offense is really spotty these days. It will be fixed once Wade gets back. I thought Wade would play 70 games this year, but he's missed already 7. >_<

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