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Re: GT: Warriors @ Hornets Fri Nov 28th 7PM EST 

Post#341 » by Hornet Mania » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:39 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:People like to think we will be paying Kemba like a top 5 PG, but that's simply not the case. He WILL get around the 12th highest salary at his position, then consider Curry is criminally underpaid and Dragic and Lillard will also overtake him by the time his new deal kicks in. I think it's more than fair to pay him like a top 15 PG.

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Yeah, the contract is market value, or just slightly above that. I'm not concerned with the cap number for Kemba at all. I am definitely concerned about his lack of improvement though.

@Ball teacher: I don't think we have anyone on the roster that is capable of being a go-to scorer on a reliable basis in crunch time. We've seen how going straight to Alfense in the closing moments has shot us in the foot this season. There is also no clear second scorer who can produce at volume throughout the game the way Al does for us down low. I think this team needs to move towards ball movement and away from a solid pecking order in terms of scoring responsibility. We have nights where Roberts is going off, or Neal, or Cody, or Kemba, or Lance and then the rest look mediocre to bad. We need to ride the hot hand and pound on whatever weakness the other team's defense is showing us.

Maybe someday we'll have a guy who we can just iso for buckets in crunch time, but right now no one can do that on our roster. I think part of our problem late has been our tendency to pigeonhole Alfense back into the mix in tight games even if it wasn't the reason we hung around up to that point. We also have a tendency to force-feed Kemba the ball at crunch time because he's our "clutch" guy. Both of those things are not helping, we need to keep the ball moving and take the best shot available, alpha dog hierarchy crap be damned. Smart teams are moving away from that end game mentality faster by the day. That's just my opinion though.
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Re: GT: Warriors @ Hornets Fri Nov 28th 7PM EST 

Post#342 » by ball teacher » Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:28 pm

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BlackOutBuzz wrote:People like to think we will be paying Kemba like a top 5 PG, but that's simply not the case. He WILL get around the 12th highest salary at his position, then consider Curry is criminally underpaid and Dragic and Lillard will also overtake him by the time his new deal kicks in. I think it's more than fair to pay him like a top 15 PG.

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Yeah, the contract is market value, or just slightly above that. I'm not concerned with the cap number for Kemba at all. I am definitely concerned about his lack of improvement though.

@Ball teacher: I don't think we have anyone on the roster that is capable of being a go-to scorer on a reliable basis in crunch time. We've seen how going straight to Alfense in the closing moments has shot us in the foot this season. There is also no clear second scorer who can produce at volume throughout the game the way Al does for us down low. I think this team needs to move towards ball movement and away from a solid pecking order in terms of scoring responsibility. We have nights where Roberts is going off, or Neal, or Cody, or Kemba, or Lance and then the rest look mediocre to bad. We need to ride the hot hand and pound on whatever weakness the other team's defense is showing us.

Maybe someday we'll have a guy who we can just iso for buckets in crunch time, but right now no one can do that on our roster. I think part of our problem late has been our tendency to pigeonhole Alfense back into the mix in tight games even if it wasn't the reason we hung around up to that point. We also have a tendency to force-feed Kemba the ball at crunch time because he's our "clutch" guy. Both of those things are not helping, we need to keep the ball moving and take the best shot available, alpha dog hierarchy crap be damned. Smart teams are moving away from that end game mentality faster by the day. That's just my opinion though.


Im starting to think this is our biggest problem (not having a closer), and I agree about the ball movement and riding the hot hand. Honestly, this is one reason we need MKG late, the guys feed off him and he's a winner, he always made big plays late while in college, for us to just not play him in the crunch is idotic. Not saying he's a closer, but he makes plays to win games and that cant be taught.
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Re: GT: Warriors @ Hornets Fri Nov 28th 7PM EST 

Post#343 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:02 pm

yosemiteben wrote:I guess MKIA is officially off the bandwagon.


I'm still on the bandwagon. There's just nothing really left for me to say that I haven't already. I voiced all of my concerns and fears of this team having a slow start to the season after what I considered a disappointing offseason only to be followed up by Clifford keeping his bad pattern of rotations with the players. The last thing I want to keep posting is a barrage of negative posts that come off in a "I told you so" manner, so I just read the posts, but I don't post much myself
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Re: GT: Warriors @ Hornets Fri Nov 28th 7PM EST 

Post#344 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:08 pm

ball teacher wrote: But he struggled mostof last year and imo in the playoffs.


This is the 2nd time you've said this unless I was drunk the first and only time you said this.

Nevertheless, I want to torpedo this myth.

Kemba was dominant in the playoffs - with a gimpy Al.

He shot .473 in 4 games and 50% on 3pt with 6 attempts per game. He averaged 19.5 points.

One could argue that his playoff performance hinted at life after Al and became one catalyst in the front office extending him prematurely.

Kemba is 24. Lance is 23 or 24 and MKG is 20. Those guys are the foundation and I can't wait to see life after Al as soon as possible.
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Re: GT: Warriors @ Hornets Fri Nov 28th 7PM EST 

Post#345 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:22 pm

Yeah we can't find a team to take Al soon enough!
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