Byron Scott plans changes to starting line up

Post #1 » by **Slava** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 12:34 am

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Looks like people are going to get their wish for Ed Davis in the starting line up.

Mirjalovic · Post #2 » by **Mirjalovic** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 1:23 am

or its Sacre and Boozer starting

Dr Aki · Post #3 » by **Dr Aki** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 1:41 am

price in, lin out probably

kblo247 · Post #4 » by **kblo247** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 1:42 am

He was a dumbass for waiting so long. Ideally we would spread it with the starters. Boozer, hill and lin is horrible on pick and roll d vs penetration. I'd say go small and start Wes at 4 since Ed is foul prone, it improves pnr d, and Sacre should never see the court. Would advocate starting Wayne as well and moving kobe to 3, then letting Nick get the 2/3 minutes.

Lin/Price
Wayne/Swaggy
Kobe/Swaggy
Wes/Boozer
Hill/Davis

**** it spread the floor for kobe to post in the first unit and improve pnr d coverage since Jameer/JJ, Conley/Udrih, Lavine/Mo, Beverly, Parker, etc have ran a train on us. We need to be able to stop the bleeding at the 1, so let wes push the PG out on D as a stretch 4. No buts about it our PG got our ass whooped most there games because lin and price ain't deterring let alone stopping **** at the point of attack

Post #5 » by **Slava** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 1:45 am

Mirjalovic wrote:or its Sacre and Boozer starting

That'd be great for a rather different reason.

Laker_Kid · Post #6 » by **Laker_Kid** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 1:55 am

we're already undersized and you want to start wes at the 4? and you call byron a dumbass. smh.

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kblo247 · Post #7 » by **kblo247** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 2:41 am

Laker_Kid wrote:we're already undersized and you want to start wes at the 4? and you call byron a dumbass. smh.

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He is a dumbass. Him being sub 500, losing every team he had, and the fact his O sucks means he is a dumbass. He was a dumbass when he said in going to wait 20 games before a switch

Wes statistically performed better at the 4. He has more range and quicker feet than Booz. He rebounds better at the 4. Our biggest weakness is we lack spacing, post scoring, and defense to pentration in he first unit. Ed fouls too much to start and the bench needs Nick; plus we know lin is half mental with his play.

Kobe can post and needs to post the most; Wes can help on 1/4 pnr and cover ala lamar to keep PGs out the damn lane, and Wayne can spot up to spread the floor.

Booz with the second unit means they have scoring next to Nick and he has a shot blocker behind him in Ed. Ed behind hill means Sacre never plays, he plays his best spot of C, and he can foul his ass off. Price can be behind lin and he won't had to score just focus on D with Nick and Boozer.

This is a a team that needs the deck shuffled and the fact is we need different units. Starting Ed sound good but it fb flawed, benching Lin is flawed, promoting Nick is flawed when you take away the bench scoring in the process.

Laker_Kid · Post #8 » by **Laker_Kid** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 5:28 am

kblo247 wrote:
Laker_Kid wrote:we're already undersized and you want to start wes at the 4? and you call byron a dumbass. smh.

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He is a dumbass. Him being sub 500, losing every team he had, and the fact his O sucks means he is a dumbass. He was a dumbass when he said in going to wait 20 games before a switch

Wes statistically performed better at the 4. He has more range and quicker feet than Booz. He rebounds better at the 4. Our biggest weakness is we lack spacing, post scoring, and defense to pentration in he first unit. Ed fouls too much to start and the bench needs Nick; plus we know lin is half mental with his play.

Kobe can post and needs to post the most; Wes can help on 1/4 pnr and cover ala lamar to keep PGs out the damn lane, and Wayne can spot up to spread the floor.

Booz with the second unit means they have scoring next to Nick and he has a shot blocker behind him in Ed. Ed behind hill means Sacre never plays, he plays his best spot of C, and he can foul his ass off. Price can be behind lin and he won't had to score just focus on D with Nick and Boozer.

This is a a team that needs the deck shuffled and the fact is we need different units. Starting Ed sound good but it fb flawed, benching Lin is flawed, promoting Nick is flawed when you take away the bench scoring in the process.

see i actually understand and agree with most of your points but id disagree with starting wes at the 4. he's no marion.

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ChokeFasncists · Post #9 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 5:33 am

Slava wrote:Looks like people are going to get their wish for Ed Davis in the starting line up.

'bout dam time! Simple and good. Let him foul out, not a big problem, just need to set the tone against other teams' starters. I'm pretty sure he'll get better after a few games.

Post #10 » by **Slava** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 5:36 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Slava wrote:Looks like people are going to get their wish for Ed Davis in the starting line up.

'bout dam time! Simple and good. Let him foul out, not a big problem, just need to set the tone against other teams' starters. I'm pretty sure he'll get better after a few games.

Games like today won't help his case. He was horrible and Boozer actually hit some shots to space the floor from mid range.

ChokeFasncists · Post #11 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 5:41 am

Slava wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
Slava wrote:Looks like people are going to get their wish for Ed Davis in the starting line up.

'bout dam time! Simple and good. Let him foul out, not a big problem, just need to set the tone against other teams' starters. I'm pretty sure he'll get better after a few games.

Games like today won't help his case. He was horrible and Boozer actually hit some shots to space the floor from mid range.

Ya, true. But it's not really about his play per se. It's about not having historically worst D. Well, if the Lakers play the L'east most of the times, it's not quite necessary, I must admit.

kblo247 · Post #12 » by **kblo247** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 7:43 am

Laker_Kid wrote:
kblo247 wrote:
Laker_Kid wrote:we're already undersized and you want to start wes at the 4? and you call byron a dumbass. smh.

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He is a dumbass. Him being sub 500, losing every team he had, and the fact his O sucks means he is a dumbass. He was a dumbass when he said in going to wait 20 games before a switch

Wes statistically performed better at the 4. He has more range and quicker feet than Booz. He rebounds better at the 4. Our biggest weakness is we lack spacing, post scoring, and defense to pentration in he first unit. Ed fouls too much to start and the bench needs Nick; plus we know lin is half mental with his play.

Kobe can post and needs to post the most; Wes can help on 1/4 pnr and cover ala lamar to keep PGs out the damn lane, and Wayne can spot up to spread the floor.

Booz with the second unit means they have scoring next to Nick and he has a shot blocker behind him in Ed. Ed behind hill means Sacre never plays, he plays his best spot of C, and he can foul his ass off. Price can be behind lin and he won't had to score just focus on D with Nick and Boozer.

This is a a team that needs the deck shuffled and the fact is we need different units. Starting Ed sound good but it fb flawed, benching Lin is flawed, promoting Nick is flawed when you take away the bench scoring in the process.

see i actually understand and agree with most of your points but id disagree with starting wes at the 4. he's no marion.

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I don't want him to be MArion, Marion is rare as ****. I just want a solid 10 pts, 7rebs, blk, and a stl out of him. At the 4 he can fill the lanes, shoot the 3, not have his handle exploited, and get some weak side shot blocks like under pringles. We just need to stop penetration,pg penetration has killed us all year and it leads to lay ups or threes.

I'm not expecting a matrix, just something different since Wes isn't a guy like a Gerald Green who knows how to use his athleticism on O at a wing spot

Hector_Reyes_8 · Post #13 » by **Hector_Reyes_8** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 5:10 pm

But I want that pick... With the way the L'East is, we may win 39 games.

I kid, but hot damn, the East is donkey dung.

ArC_man · Post #14 » by **ArC_man** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 5:57 pm

I don't see BScott benching Lin. Lin, despite all of his inconsistencies, is still leagues ahead of Price even on his worst night. I honestly think we should just cut Price and roll with Clarkson.

amcfad27 · Post #15 » by **amcfad27** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 6:51 pm

Davis and Hill upfront

KungFuJoe · Post #16 » by **KungFuJoe** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:35 pm

I was arguing Davis > Boozer early in the season, but now I know why Davis comes off the bench. He can't stay out of foul trouble.

Honestly, this starting 5 is the best starting 5.

Even with Lin's inconsistencies, Price is SO bad, Lin has to start. I don't even understand why Scott puts Price in for defense at the end of the games...he can't keep ANYONE in front of him. He got beat by Lowry, only he got lucky that he was so out of control he gave an obvious hook. Not saying it's easy to keep NBA PGs in front of you, but Lin is NOT so much worse as to need to play offense/defense with him.

Young needs to come off the bench because he's literally the only offense production we have from him, other than when Sacre comes alive every once in a while, but that's not going to last.

Wes is our best defender...need him on the court.

And Hill is an athletic, albeit undersized big man. If we had a true center, he'd be great as the 4. But we don't.

mcscotty · Post #17 » by **mcscotty** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:36 pm

Feel bad for Byron. Not a lot the guy can do, yet he has to seem like he's doing something. Not a good situation.

KungFuJoe · Post #18 » by **KungFuJoe** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 8:36 pm

ArC_man wrote:I don't see BScott benching Lin. Lin, despite all of his inconsistencies, is still leagues ahead of Price even on his worst night. I honestly think we should just cut Price and roll with Clarkson.

I like Price...he seems like a hard worker/nice guy, but I agree with this.

He's BAD. As TO prone as Lin, and defense is arguable. And has zero offense. You can't rely on Price for even a couple baskets here or there.

Better to develop Clarkson than to keep giving Price minutes at this point.

leeprettyp · Post #19 » by **leeprettyp** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 9:21 pm

Lin
Ellington
Kobe
Wes
Hill

I doubt Scott will go with both Hill and Davis but maybe we'll see. I think the above lineup gives Kobe more room to operate in the post but its gonna suck when we play teams with elite level PF's

ChokeFasncists · Post #20 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Mon Dec 1, 2014 11:39 pm

ArC_man wrote:I don't see BScott benching Lin. Lin, despite all of his inconsistencies, is still leagues ahead of Price even on his worst night.

Lin is by far the better shooter, gives Kobe space. Price is more active but Lin is still the better defender, smarter at least.

I honestly think we should just cut Price and roll with Clarkson.

Clarkson's D was horrible, Price at least is a veteran, that'd be a tank move.

KungFuJoe wrote:I was arguing Davis > Boozer early in the season, but now I know why Davis comes off the bench. He can't stay out of foul trouble.

Honestly, this starting 5 is the best starting 5.

It really doesn't matter if Davis gets into foul trouble as a starter. If he fouls out so what? The D is so much better with him. It's good to have him set the tone against other teams' starters. He also sets better picks on O.