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Question: Best rookie receiver class ever?

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Re: Question: Best rookie receiver class ever? 

Post#41 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 4, 2014 1:17 am

I_am_1z wrote:
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Barely. I thought Matthews was a 2nd rounder, but believed he created no separation, despite being stereotyped as a great route runner because he's cousins with Jerry Rice. About two weeks ago I wrote Martavis Bryant should have been a 49er over Ellington. You posted back how he wouldn't be used here and how Ellington reminds you of Dougie Baldwin :noway: . Bryant's obviously going to be in the league over a year, he has a higher ceiling than Jordan, and has flashed to being the deep threat the 49ers NEED on offense. So, I'm questioning how Bryant isn't right for the 49ers and Matthews is...


Are you being an idiot just to argue? I never said Bryant isn't "right for the 49ers." I was making the counterargument that his recent success with the Steelers doesn't prove that he would've been a better pick than Bruce Ellington. Not even close to what you're insinuating.

It seems to me like you're pulling BS out of your ass just to start an argument.

Also, what are basing this notion that Bryant has more potential than Matthews, on, exactly? Because he barely ran a faster 40? Matthews has a better 10-yard and 20-yard splits, better 3 cone and more reps on the bench, Bryant has better vert, broad jump and BARELY beat him in the shuttle.


Them came off as fighting words. Really, don't think Ellington will amount to much even in a potent offense. Once Martavis Bryant is consistent using good ball skills he's going to take off. The guy can extend his arms and use his size, but it's only some of the time. He's actually a burner, unlike Matthews despite their combine numbers. From my eyes Bryant's game is far more raw too.


We'll agree to disagree on Ellington. As I said before, I think he can be a Doug Baldwin-type if given the opportunity and enough looks in the pass game.

As for Bryant, yes, he's more raw than Matthews. But that's why I like Matthews, he's ready to play today and still has considerable upside.
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Re: Question: Best rookie receiver class ever? 

Post#42 » by NinerSickness » Thu Dec 4, 2014 2:53 am

Matthews is every bit the burner that Bryant is. I don't know where that came from.
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Post#43 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Dec 4, 2014 6:42 am

Not that it means all that much, but Ellington's measurables are uncannily similar to Beckham's (within 0.02 seconds in the 40, three-cone, and short shuttle, and within two inches on the jumps; Beckham's almost two inches taller, but virtually identical weight as well). Ellington needs to refine his skills at the WR position to get close to that level - which may be tough to do under Johnny Morton's tutelage - but there's definitely some upside there. If this team can figure out how to stage a passing attack.
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Re: Question: Best rookie receiver class ever? 

Post#44 » by I_am_1z » Sun Dec 7, 2014 8:50 pm

NinerSickness wrote:Matthews is every bit the burner that Bryant is. I don't know where that came from.


Martavis Bryant 96 yarder like it was nothing, no one in his proximity. You're next Matthews...

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