Official General NBA Discussion Thread V2.0

[knickerbocker2k2]

Only reason why the Warriors don't score more than the Raptors is because of their turnovers which is a result of their over passing. Otherwise their offense would've been much better than the Raptors.

That is like saying they only reason they score more is they shot better. Raptors have historically being very low TO team. Even with increased pace this year, we still don't turn over. Warriors play at high pace, and with that they get good looks, but the downside to that is TOs.

Biggest difference is Raptors are top 3 in FT attempts and Warriors are in the bottom half just like last year.

[VanCityRaps]

A Terrence Ross for Ryan Anderson trade would make so much sense for both teams

[BetterCallSaul]

Its easy to see why the Pelicans are so bad. They are not using AD correctly, the guy should be the main focal point on offence, like Bosh when he played for us.

The guy is a beast, if we had him, we would be championship contenders.

The thing is that AD isn't actually that creative of a scorer. He doesn't have a refined face up game and his post game is barely existent. He's an amazing pick and roll player, but the only guy that can find him is Jrue Holiday. He's the best "loose ball" player in the NBA, he gets tons of boards, tons of 50/50 balls and when the play has broken down and he's in that 0-9 foot area he can rise and finish with ease.

He can knock down the J, he can drive and elevate, but he doesn't have the type of amazing slashing ability and footwork that Bosh had when he was with us. Putting him in Iso and post-up situations would be misusing him. They just got to keep him moving around the offence, setting screens and cutting to the basket and that will drive the defence nuts because they'll have to keep track of him and shift around so much due to him being unstoppable when he catches the ball with any breathing room around the paint.

[knickerbocker2k2]

A Terrence Ross for Ryan Anderson trade would make so much sense for both teams

Worst trade idea, and I'm not even talking about losing Ross. What value does Anderson bring? 3point shooting? We have 2pat for that. We already have #1 offense. He bring nothing to the table.

[BetterCallSaul]

A Terrence Ross for Ryan Anderson trade would make so much sense for both teams

Except we would then be short a wing defender and a wing player in general. Unless you're supporting the idea of subsequently trading one of Amir/PPat (I vote Pat in this instance since he become kind of redundant with Anderson arriving) or moving Landry Fields up the depth chart.

We won't trade Ross or JV though, we are nurturing their development and both are performing very nicely as 3rd year starters on a good team.

[knickerbocker2k2]

Its easy to see why the Pelicans are so bad. They are not using AD correctly, the guy should be the main focal point on offence, like Bosh when he played for us.

The guy is a beast, if we had him, we would be championship contenders.

This is guard league. Pelicans have pretty bad guards. I'm disappointed in Holiday. I thought the guy would become floor general but he just a stat stuffer is not even that good at that.

[knickerbocker2k2]

Its easy to see why the Pelicans are so bad. They are not using AD correctly, the guy should be the main focal point on offence, like Bosh when he played for us.

The guy is a beast, if we had him, we would be championship contenders.

This is guard league. Pelicans have pretty bad guards. I'm disappointed in Holiday. I thought the guy would become floor general but he just a stat stuffer is not even that good at that.

[VanCityRaps]

A Terrence Ross for Ryan Anderson trade would make so much sense for both teams

Worst trade idea, and I'm not even talking about losing Ross. What value does Anderson bring? 3point shooting? We have 2pat for that. We already have #1 offense. He bring nothing to the table.

Ryan Andeson is one of the best strech bigs in the NBA. He's even a better shooter than Ross. He's also a solid offensive rebounder. And above all, he's only 26 years old.

[TheRaptor!]

Its easy to see why the Pelicans are so bad. They are not using AD correctly, the guy should be the main focal point on offence, like Bosh when he played for us.

The guy is a beast, if we had him, we would be championship contenders.

The thing is that AD isn't actually that creative of a scorer. He doesn't have a refined face up game and his post game is barely existent. He's an amazing pick and roll player, but the only guy that can find him is Jrue Holiday. He's the best "loose ball" player in the NBA, he gets tons of boards, tons of 50/50 balls and when the play has broken down and he's in that 0-9 foot area he can rise and finish with ease.

He can knock down the J, he can drive and elevate, but he doesn't have the type of amazing slashing ability and footwork that Bosh had when he was with us. Putting him in Iso and post-up situations would be misusing him. They just got to keep him moving around the offence, setting screens and cutting to the basket and that will drive the defence nuts because they'll have to keep track of him and shift around so much due
to him being unstoppable when he catches the ball with any breathing room around the paint.

Fair enough.

His shot and feel around the rim is very solid. His defence, rebounding and blocking instincts is off the charts.

[Clementine9]

I'm not going to say Davis is better than Jordan but I am thinking about things related to that thought.

[Thespianoid]

I'm not going to say Davis is better than Jordan but I am thinking about things related to that thought.

He sure gets the calls to go with that reputation.

[knickerbocker2k2]

A Terrence Ross for Ryan Anderson trade would make so much sense for both teams

Worst trade idea, and I'm not even talking about losing Ross. What value does Anderson bring? 3point shooting? We have 2pat for that. We already have #1 offense. He bring nothing to the table.

Ryan Andeson is one of the best strech bigs in the NBA. He's even a better shooter than Ross. He's also a solid offensive rebounder. And above all, he's only 26 years old.

I actually like Anderson. But we don't need to stretch anything. Our offense runs very well as it is. Our biggest needs are getting quality big man backup (ideally defensive anchor for the bench).

2pat is quality backup. If you bring Anderson, it means you bench Amir and use him as backup C. Sounds great until you realize what that means for starting unit. We lose defensive presence of Amir. We always have 2 guards out who rely on screens/picks, and Amir is among the best. Who is going to set those screens? You gain a little in spacing, but at what cost?

[Undefeated]

That is like saying they only reason they score more is they shot better. Raptors have historically being very low TO team. Even with increased pace this year, we still don't turn over. Warriors play at high pace, and with that they get good looks, but the downside to that is TOs.

Biggest difference is Raptors are top 3 in FT attempts and Warriors are in the bottom half just like last year.

As I've said a majority of their turnovers were from over passing earlier in the season because they were trying to copy the Spurs and some of that were new actions that players were still getting used to. And some of that is Curry's penchant for making highlight reel dimes. The Spurs don't get to the line much either, and their ORtg has been below league average this year, but I'm sure no one would mistaken them as being worse than the Raptors.

[Clementine9]

GS is prettyyyyyy prettyyyyyy pretty good.

[Clementine9]

Pelicans need new guards. They don't deserve AD.

[Thespianoid]

Pelicans need new guards. They don't deserve AD.

AD to Raptors

[Clementine9]

Give Salmons the max?

[knickerbocker2k2]

As I've said a majority of their turnovers were from over passing earlier in the season because they were trying to copy the Spurs and some of that were new actions that players were still getting used to. And some of that is Curry's penchant for making highlight reel dimes. The Spurs don't get to the line much either, and their ORtg has been below league average this year, but I'm sure no one would mistaken them as being worse than the Raptors.

The difference between Raptors/GS is not soley TOs. Currently Raptors are on pace to have one of the most effective offenses ever. Most likely they will cool down and come down a peg or two. But from what we have seen this Raptors do and will have more effective offense than GS/Spurs. Spurs current rating is similar to their rating from last year.

What separates Raptors from Spurs/GS is their defense. They both were elite (top 5) last year and so far this year they are #1/#2. The question will be as Raptors offense cools down, can they pick up their defense to get back in top 10?

[Mack11]

A Terrence Ross for Ryan Anderson trade would make so much sense for both teams

[ZeriousLy]

lol GSW just blow out every team