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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#221 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:58 am

Kalidogg24 wrote:As for the Kobe Effect, this is the way it's always been and every point guard who has shared the backcourt with Bean has to learn to adjust.

Most successful is DFish who was basically a spot up shooter from the beginning of time. Which can make it hard for Jeremy who loves to create and play an uptempo style of basketball.

Well, as "bad" as Lin has played, he averaged 13 and 5 in Nov, that'd be around Fisher's career highs.
panarama wrote:Lin needs to be either be a good spot up shooter or come off the bench.

He's already pretty good at spotting up, was averaging almost 40% from deep before the recent slump. I think he's better as a starter, it's just gonna take some time.
Or otherwise, I am predicting this LA forum will be turning into a two factions btwn "LOF" and "LOH" repeating what I've witnessed during Lin's stay in Houston.

Oh, plz no, that barbarous situation. Let's refrain from making that happen. Definitely one of the ugliest things I've ever witnessed as a human being. But there is hope, I heard that it started with Yao, so it was merely a continuation.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#222 » by Tonyism74 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:40 pm

Yes people, Kobe can make or break chemistry, just like anyone else. Except for the Laker's his choice to do so greatly impacts us, positive or negative.

As for Lin, I believe he is a starter but he just cant seem to adjust. I dont know if I can blame that on him though; cant recall the last time we had an effective PG during Kobe's era that excelled. Van Exel?
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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#223 » by bws94 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:23 pm

Tonyism74 wrote:Yes people, Kobe can make or break chemistry, just like anyone else. Except for the Laker's his choice to do so greatly impacts us, positive or negative.

As for Lin, I believe he is a starter but he just cant seem to adjust. I dont know if I can blame that on him though; cant recall the last time we had an effective PG during Kobe's era that excelled. Van Exel?



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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#224 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:24 am

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ChokeFasncists wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:

Interesting that you feel that wall scoring 17 and having 15 assist is lin shutting wall down. :crazy:

Dude yo, didn't you read that I said "scoring wise"? Don't just look at the boxscore s'il vous plais?

Ok, Wall scored two points on Lin in the first quarter, five points in the third quarter. Only seven points. OK, I guess that's his norm...... :crazy: And notice I said pretty much, not completely.

But of course, since Lin kept bricking and had some boneheaded plays he couldn't stay on the floor, and Price's shots were falling. Even then, the four point play is already trash time.



imo Lin just isn't as good as Wall - But Lin can ball he just needs to keep playing. I'd rather see Lin go 0-20 than 3-6 because some nights those shots fall.

You're right, Wall has excelled (even tho his percentages are low) on a winning team and Lin is struggling to get going, however, we can only find out what they can really do later. Lin is still learning the ropes, trying to find his way. The potential IMO is there, it's up to him to realize it night in and night out. He must get his TOs down, confidence up and be sharp mentally. Lin's gotta play more consistently. Just after he had that 16/7 stretch, he had this three games valley. If he plays consistently well, Kobe can rest assured and rely on him; it's unsettling to have Kobe play so much. Tone down on the TOs, don't think too much, strike a balance between D and O. At this stage, I prefer him to shoot 3-6 than 0-20 because there are enough scorers on the team, he could better focus on the little things and it helps the team win better.
The lakers are on lean times but with kobe I feel like hall are always one free agent away from being relevant again in NBA-

I feel like starting Davis instead of Boozer and Lin playing consistently well would make them relevant already. But to tank or not to tank?


If you shoot 50% but only shoot 6 shots AND your team loses AND you play 30+ minutes -without a significant number of assist, rebounds or game changing plays.... Exactly what did you do and why are you on the court? So like I said, I would rather Lin shot 40%, took more shots and had more assist VS defer/not have an impact on the outcome of the game. A starting point guard that doesn't have his finger print on the game is a liability in the NBA today. Lin has too much talent to simply be a b-level role player. Seems like he has the skill but not the heart or basketball iq to be the starting point guard for a winning team. Keep in mind academic intelligence isn't the same as basketball iq. Lin's basketball iq could be measured by turnovers or his understanding of when to shoot vs when to pass to kobe. I would say if Lin was basketball smart and he was on fire (shooting great) he would stay in attack mode vs pass it to kobe when he is in "fire at will" mode when he is off (shooting poorly). If Lin can't make those decisions then his basketball iq isn't as high as his academic iq. Also remember that Kobe publicly gave Lin authority to "lead" the team and run the offense, Byron Scott is not only starting but giving Lin a ton of minutes and Lin brings the ball up. For the LOFs out there- there isn't an excuse for Lin not to have a career year. Lin either does it now or he may never get another chance to start in NBA-imo

Quit the juvenile, accusatory, acronym-filled name-calling, otherwise you would not be taken seriously.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#225 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 11:52 am

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kblo247 wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:True, but what do you do?

idk, maybe running after Jennings and Wall?

You get him in the weight room to work on core leg strength

Or he could try Chameleon Training in the summer

These two guys seem to have benefited from that:

3. Shabazz Muhammad, Timberwolves
After transforming his body into a smaller version of a typical power forward, Muhammad is shaping up to be a "power guard." He is simply too strong for many wings to deal with, and his leaner frame still allows him to make very athletic plays at the rim.

9. Anthony Bennett, Timberwolves
Like Muhammad, Bennett changed his body and now sports a terrific frame for an NBA power forward. He can now make athletic plays and owns many of the Wolves' dunking highlights from this season.

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Go for it Lin! His fellow Bay Area guy!
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#226 » by TARIQ » Sat Dec 6, 2014 10:51 pm

.. wrong thread
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Wonderllama wrote:George/Hibbert = the next Kobe/Shaq?

PG seems like he could be even better than Kobe... IMO.
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Re: LA Lakers (5-13) @ DC Wizards (11-5) | 6 PM PT | 12/03 

Post#227 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Dec 7, 2014 2:09 am

TARIQ wrote:.. wrong thread

~lol~ Sorry for the dig up! 8-)
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.

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