Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong

[milellie111]

I would be a troll if I was bashing the team negatively trying to get a rise out of folks here on the boards. I'm not doing that, I'm stating obvious facts and giving credit where it is due. TGW is more of a troll than anyone. Just look at his profile pic.

[milellie111]

You guys bring up past negative examples and i'm not ignoring those. Maynor turned out to be a disappopintment.

Oh... Maynor "turned out to be a disappointment?" What about Vesely? Singleton? Mack? Satoransky? And... Seaphin?

...what about not giving up on Seraphin so quickly and trading him away? Seraphin has proven these past few games to be an important contributor.

Dude -- Seraphin played 14 minutes vs. Indiana. In that time, he committed 3 fouls and had 3 turnovers. He managed 2 rebounds (both on defense). Is this what you mean by being "an important contributor?" I might mention that this was one of his better stints as a Wizard.

He is in his 5th season in the NBA and even at his best is below average or maybe just at average -- and he is not at his best very often! And you're suggesting we want to "give up on him too quickly?"

Some guys I heard months ago we should trade away are still on the roster and are the reason why we are 4-1.

Huh? Like... who exactly?

Another example, trading this years 46th pick for cash and keeping the roster spot open for a veteran who would be helpful to the team immediately in case of injury or a deep run in the playoffs is smart GM'ing in my eyes.

How about assembling one of the oldest rosters in the NBA -- by exactly these "smart GM'ing" strategies you like so much? Is that also something you like? And who is this terrific veteran we've picked up, or will pick up, according to you? Jordan Clarkson, picked w/ that p'd away #46 pick, was good enough to earn a guaranteed NBA contract this year. For $500K. If he pans out, the Lakers have an option for next year. *That* is what *I* call "smart GM'ing".

We are 4-1; that's great. Lets hope we can keep winning.

Yes, Seraphin is a contributor and not a bust.

[dckingsfan]

Troll

[milellie111]

Troll

Who? TGW?

[closg00]

Upgrading Trevor Booker with Kris Humphries. Upgrading Ariza with Paul Pierce. Filling last roster spot with money man Rasual Butler. Turning this Wizards team into a top 3 Eastern Conference contender.

Well deserved extension upcoming for Mr. Grunfeld.

Goodnight haters!!!

Funny, you haven't trolled lately

[milellie111]

Upgrading Trevor Booker with Kris Humphries. Upgrading Ariza with Paul Pierce. Filling last roster spot with money man Rasual Butler. Turning this Wizards team into a top 3 Eastern Conference contender.

Well deserved extension upcoming for Mr. Grunfeld.

Goodnight haters!!!

Funny, you haven't trolled lately

Sure. I'm trolling when we're 10-5, 6-2 at home and second overall in the East yet I'm pointing out the obvious wonderful job management has done to get this team where it is today.

[milellie111]

Not only has Ernie proved the doubters wrong, but he's proved Ted was right.

If you still want to see Grunfeld fired you are either a troll or not a fan of the Wizards.

[dckingsfan]

Not only has Ernie proved the doubters wrong, but he's proved Ted was right.

If you still want to see Grunfeld fired you are either a troll or not a fan of the Wizards.

Here you go again... you can be a fan of the Wizards and want EG gone. Simple as that...

[milellie111]

Not only has Ernie proved the doubters wrong, but he's proved Ted was right.

If you still want to see Grunfeld fired you are either a troll or not a fan of the Wizards.

Here you go again... you can be a fan of the Wizards and want EG gone. Simple as that...

You can't be fan of this team and want the ringleader gone. It's pretty simple. If you still want Grunfeld gone then you are clearly stating you do not like the teams current success and do not want it to succeed further. Hence, you are publicly denying your true loyalty to the Washington Wizards. You are a fan of the team and everything a part of and related to the team, especially Ernie Grunfeld.

[closg00]

Not only has Ernie proved the doubters wrong, but he's proved Ted was right.

If you still want to see Grunfeld fired you are either a troll or not a fan of the Wizards.

Here you go again... you can be a fan of the Wizards and want EG gone. Simple as that...

+1

"A new big three has announced its arrival - Wall, Crawford and Blatche." ~ Ted Leonsis.

[milellie111]

Not only has Ernie proved the doubters wrong, but he's proved Ted was right.

If you still want to see Grunfeld fired you are either a troll or not a fan of the Wizards.

Here you go again... you can be a fan of the Wizards and want EG gone. Simple as that...

+1

"A new big three has announced its arrival - Wall, Crawford and Blatche." ~ Ted Leonsis.

Lol. Do you ever move on from the past? Do you still wish Beanie Babies were popular?!

[dckingsfan]

Not only has Ernie proved the doubters wrong, but he's proved Ted was right.

If you still want to see Grunfeld fired you are either a troll or not a fan of the Wizards.

Here you go again... you can be a fan of the Wizards and want EG gone. Simple as that...

You can't be fan of this team and want the ringleader gone. It's pretty simple. If you still want Grunfeld gone then you are clearly stating you do not like the teams current success and do not want it to succeed further. Hence, you are publicly denying your true loyalty to the Washington Wizards. You are a fan of the team and everything a part of and related to the team, especially Ernie Grunfeld.

Incorrect, I am a fan. I always want the team to win. Period. Your logic is flawed.

If I don't like the jerseys I am not a fan? The reasons are many not to like EG.

Go Wizards!

[milellie111]

Here you go again... you can be a fan of the Wizards and want EG gone. Simple as that...

You can't be fan of this team and want the ringleader gone. It's pretty simple. If you still want Grunfeld gone then you are clearly stating you do not like the teams current success and do not want it to succeed further. Hence, you are publicly denying your true loyalty to the Washington Wizards. You are a fan of the team and everything a part of and related to the team, especially Ernie Grunfeld.

Incorrect, I am a fan. I always want the team to win. Period. Your logic is flawed.

If I don't like the jerseys I am not a fan? The reasons are many not to like EG.


Go Wizards!

Well the only reasons not to like Ernie Grunfeld are reasons not worth entertaining because they have nothing to do with the business side of basketball and the management of a team.

Has Grunfeld built a winning competitive team? Yes.
Has Grunfeld hired a coach responsible for the success of this team? Yes
Has Grunfeld demonstrated financial responsibility? Yes
Has Grunfeld lined this team up for future success? Yes
Has Grunfeld successfully executed the plan and vision his owner gave to him? Yes

These should be the only reasons that matter when evaluating a GM.
This team is fortunate to have Grunfeld at the helm.

He's a great GM. Everyone around the league agrees except for a handful of stuck in the past Wizards fans that cant accept change.

[dckingsfan]

OK, now that we are past that a Wizard Fan can still dislike EG. Let's move on...

What would your definition of a "Great GM" be... Since it is in the title of your thread - please give us that definition.

[hands11]

OK, now that we are past that a Wizard Fan can still dislike EG. Let's move on...

What would your definition of a "Great GM" be... Since it is in the title of your thread - please give us that definition.

I think he already did that.

Has Grunfeld built a winning competitive team? Yes.
Has Grunfeld hired a coach responsible for the success of this team? Yes
Has Grunfeld demonstrated financial responsibility? Yes
Has Grunfeld lined this team up for future success? Yes
Has Grunfeld successfully executed the plan and vision his owner gave to him? Yes

Its fine. As time goes on, it will be more and more clear and less and less while be holding on to their thread of hate.

For some, its going to take a mountain to convince them. But that nothing new.
For some, its going to take winning the ECF. For some, winning it all. Even losing in the finals wouldn't be enough.

Thats the beauty of the haters position. There is always something to complain about. Even if they win it all, I'm sure one of them would step up complain about how it was only one year.

And after years of being wrong, they will try to whip it all away with a simple line.. I guess EG wasn't so bad after all.

Again, nothing new. We have been talking about this exact stuff over the last 3-4 years. Haters going to hate.

What I love are the ones that only cared about results and wouldn't admit to the progress because results were all that matters. Then we got results, but they weren't enough. Now we have even better results. Still not enough. Hey, it was an easy schedule. We haven't beaten anyone really good yet.

But Ted and EG don't get credit. The team just magically strung up from fairy dust.

And man, we blow it not playing Glen Rice more..
Getting Gortat for Okakor and a top protect first was pure stupid.

Anyway, big game coming up against the Celtics. A lose there and all of this rebuilding means nothing.



I kid. But I do expect a melt down if it happens.

[dckingsfan]

So he built a winning team = "great"

[closg00]

..and the "great" tag is bestowed upon person X when said person has a record of "great" achievement to look back on. Ten years of misery and missteps back to winning basketball doesn't even begin to touch "Great"

[dckingsfan]

..and the "great" tag is bestowed upon person X when said person has a record of "great" achievement to look back on. Ten years of misery and missteps back to winning basketball doesn't even begin to touch "Great"

great, /ɡrāt/, adjective
adjective: great; comparative adjective: greater; superlative adjective: greatest

of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average

[hands11]

So he built a winning team = "great"

Not going to slice and dice words with you over this.

Everyone has enjoyed these last 3 games. They were dominate wins.

Wall is looking awesome. Thank God its coming together for him. It was touch and go there for a while.
Rasual is really making a huge difference. First they found Singleton. Then Web. Then Gooden. Now Rasual. Some times its the seemingly small move that makes a huge difference.

The team has not just been winning but they are playing some beautiful basketball.

Great defense. Blocks. Steals. Fast Breaks. Dunks. Professor old man schooling highlights. Gortat dunks. Hump mid range. Beal 3s. Alley opps. Rasual. Otto pitching in with block, steals, etc. You really can't ask for much more. They are really doing everything. And they have young players developing.

And on top of all that, I like the players which is also important to me. There is no Beard here.

And they have Paul Pierce on their team... Let that sink in. PAUL PIERCE.

This is the best Wizards team I have seen since the Bobby D and Elvin Hayes years and I'm really not surprised it is because that has been clear they were building the right way for a while now.

People have started to talk about the SAS comparison a little more lately. But I see some GSW in them as well. That might be the closer comparison.

So if things keep developing as they have been, this could be a really interesting season. They still have a lot to achieve, but I feel much better about them matching up with the better teams now that I saw Nene coming off the bench, Beal is back in a grove, Rasual is balling and Hump and Gortat look great starting.

I had them top 3, and if things went well top 2 in the conference. That looks doable. I had them better then TOR. I think that is still likely true. This team has been slowly built over the last 4 years from the lowest of low. A wrong turn at many points along the way could have derailed it, but its looking like they have something solid and amazingly fun to watch as of the last 3 games.

Why would I not give the front office credit for delivering that ? Of course they deserve credit. And Ted above all else.

[hands11]

..and the "great" tag is bestowed upon person X when said person has a record of "great" achievement to look back on. Ten years of misery and missteps back to winning basketball doesn't even begin to touch "Great"

great, /ɡrāt/, adjective
adjective: great; comparative adjective: greater; superlative adjective: greatest

of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average

Kind of desperate for something to hate on aren't you ?

So do you like the team roster ?
Salary cap ?
Style of play ?
Record ?

.722 13-5 7th best record in the league. Top 5 defense. 3 blow out games in a row.
9-2 at home. The booth actually starting to come alive after year and year of it being terrible at home.

Its early still but....

Better then a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.