Bears present and future QB dilemma continues

[RedBulls23]

The problem with the Bears is not only their inability in getting a franchise QB, but it's also the fact that when they do get a talent like Jay, they do everything wrong in developing that talent.

If they had gotten Jay the proper coaching and actually built around him from the start of his aquisition, maybe, just maybe the proper coaching would have fixed his mechanic issues when he was only 26. But Bears put Cutler in position to fail from the get go.

So now if they do draft a new QB, they will probably have the Lovie Smith and Dick Juron type coaches that have no clue how to develop a stud QB and they will ruin him too.

The problem is from the top, not just in getting bad QBs. This franchise seriously needs to make sure that they get a coach that is capable of putting a young QB in position to succeed, otherwise they will continue to recycle QB after QB.

Every great QB generally has had a great coach that they worked with. I can't really think of one that didn't.

End rant.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

While I'm still okay with the deal we have to Cutler I definitely have accepted that we should be drafting his replacement this year or next (as opposed to a few more years down the line). And when we do it's be really nice to be sure that he was going to have a permanent HC in place and also not be rushed into PT.


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[chitownsports4ever]

Jasy was never going to be the answer and we have simply wasted six years trying to make him into something hes not. Too many people looked at the physical tools and got attached without ever considering the mental aspect of the game which is totally lacking and we just keep blaming everyone else

[RedBulls23]

Jasy was never going to be the answer and we have simply wasted six years trying to make him into something hes not. Too many people looked at the physical tools and got attached without ever considering the mental aspect of the game which is totally lacking and we just keep blaming everyone else

I'm not blaming anyone else, but there is a reason why the Bears don't have a good QB in Chicago since like 1946.

This organization puts QBs in position to fail.

[Cottage Grove]

Jasy was never going to be the answer and we have simply wasted six years trying to make him into something hes not. Too many people looked at the physical tools and got attached without ever considering the mental aspect of the game which is totally lacking and we just keep blaming everyone else

I'm not blaming anyone else, but there is a reason why the Bears don't have a good QB in Chicago since like 1946.

This organization puts QBs in position to fail.

I agree the Bears have been void of a Qb since forever and it's pathetic. However in the situation of Cutler, they gave him everything he needed. He's had every big name coordinator available, they let him pick his Qb coach, and they even let him pick his head coach. On top of that, he has weapons at every skill position on offense.
At what point do you just say Cutler is not good enough? IMO Cutler is just a stat padder. And I blame the McCaskeys for putting in place a staff that tied us to Cutler with that money.

It's obvious we need a first round Qb. I'm so fed up with looking at Cutler that for the first time in my life I wouldn't be opposed to the Bears losing out to get a high pick.

Question is, who do we want in charge of our rebuild? Emery? His drafting has been a B-. His free agency has been an F. And his coach hirings have been an F across the board.

I really don't know where to start with this mess.

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[Friend_Of_Haley]

An F in Free Agency? I swear I don't know where people get this ****.


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[Cottage Grove]

An F in Free Agency? I swear I don't know where people get this ****.


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That was a typo. It shouldve been a C. To be fair, I do like Willie Young, Bushrod, Slauson and Ratliff. Other than that it's trade block material.

Back on topic...

I dont watch college football. But, if the Bears keep losing, do we give Jameis Winston a look?

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[City of Trees]

Some options:

Trade Cutler (draft pick, RGIII, ect)

Draft a QB in round 1 (which would suck for me- Shaq Thompson! !)

Sign FA


Seems to be a bumpy road no matter which route you take.

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[Friend_Of_Haley]

An F in Free Agency? I swear I don't know where people get this ****.


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That was a typo. It shouldve been a C. To be fair, I do like Willie Young, Bushrod, Slauson and Ratliff. Other than that it's trade block material.

Back on topic...

I dont watch college football. But, if the Bears keep losing, do we give Jameis Winston a look?

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I'd sell put him in the B range for free agency. Not too many misses and he's plugged our depth shortcomings which is difficult in FA. Also very important with FA- maintained the cap health.


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[Cottage Grove]

An F in Free Agency? I swear I don't know where people get this ****.


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That was a typo. It shouldve been a C. To be fair, I do like Willie Young, Bushrod, Slauson and Ratliff. Other than that it's trade block material.

Back on topic...

I dont watch college football. But, if the Bears keep losing, do we give Jameis Winston a look?

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I'd sell put him in the B range for free agency. Not too many misses and he's plugged our depth shortcomings which is difficult in FA. Also very important with FA- maintained the cap health.


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How can you say not too many misses when we are 5 and 7? No one is looking on their schedule and saying "Oh man we have the Bears. That's gonna be a tough game." What they are saying is "R.E.L.A...X...RELAX."

As an opponent I would be thinking we can pretty much do anything on offense and just be patient on defense because Cutler will give us a couple turnovers. That was the case last year and that's the case this year. Even after the FA bonanza.

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[Friend_Of_Haley]

I'd pin a huge portion of 5-7 on the coaching.

He's had to use free agency to plug multiple starting spots and depth each off season. That's extremely difficult to do year in and year out.

The biggest FA misses so far were Bush, Cambell, and Allen (but even he has turned it on a bit lately). Every other FA of note has met or exceeded expectations and filled the role they were brought in for. You can also talk about a few guys he wasn't able to sign- such as Bennett, which is fair but I don't believe is significant enough to undermine his successful signings made.

The Bears have a fair amount of talent. Teams would be much more worried if there was a better coaching staff. It's unfortunate but that one area has completely undone Emery's other positives. It will be telling what he decides with Trestman this year.


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[RedBulls23]

Thinking about it, I would like to trade Cutler, but then again you are left with no one at QB.

WT says Harbaugh would like to stay in the NFL over going to Michigan. I think you do what you can to bring him in.

Let Harbaugh pick his coaches. He will run the offense through Forte, and take a lot of the decision making out of Cutler's hands.

Then just continue to rebuild the defense through the draft and much better coaching. The year after next, draft a QB to groom as Cutler goes into his final year.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

I think Harbaugh goes to whoever gives him roster control- perhaps not full GM duties but final 53 man say ala Lovie Smith in Tampa. Also 9ers may not fire him but try and force the new team into trading for him. I'm not giving up a draft pick and trusting him with GM duties, if that's what it indeed comes to. If he can be had without compensation and is just HC, I'd go around 4/30-5/40 for him, which is probably the price tag it takes.


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[NZB2323]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/jay-cu ... nee,37422/

CHICAGO—Following the team’s blowout 55-14 loss to the Green Bay Packers Sunday night, Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler told reporters Tuesday that he would be the first person to admit the team is in dire need of a new punter. “It’s certainly not an easy thing to say, but at the end of the day, someone has to step up and accept that mistakes were made by our punter, Pat O’Donnell,” said Cutler, who pointed to O’Donnell’s blocked punt in the third quarter as playing a major role in the team’s unraveling and conceded that blame for the team’s loss rested squarely on the rookie punter. “Going forward, there will have to be some serious adjustments made to our punt unit—when individual players aren’t doing their part out there, we’re going to fall short as a team. Pat didn’t play well, and he needs to accept responsibility for that.” Cutler went on to acknowledge that Bears long snapper Jeremy Cain will also need to step up his performance significantly before next week’s game against the Vikings if the team is to have any chance of turning its season around.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/bears- ... e-g,37314/

CHICAGO—Saying that the organization feels compelled to light a fire under its struggling quarterback, Chicago Bears general manager Phil Emery told reporters Wednesday that he is hoping to motivate Jay Cutler by offering him even more guaranteed money from his seven-year, $126 million contract. “We’re willing to do whatever it takes to push Jay to improve his performance on the field, so if a guaranteed $54 million isn’t getting the best out of him, then we’ll just have to go up to $70 million,” said Emery, adding that increasing Cutler’s promised earnings will hopefully incentivize the veteran passer to consistently play at the peak of his abilities and eventually lead the team to a Super Bowl. “All options are on the table at this point, whether we need to restructure his current contract or just scrap it altogether and offer a new 10-year deal with $90 million guaranteed. We just want to make sure we’re doing everything in our power to keep Jay focused on his game and driven to succeed.” At press time, sources close to the Bears front office confirmed that the team will be cutting Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, Matt Forte, and Jared Allen in order to clear enough cap space for Cutler’s new salary.

[City of Trees]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/jay-cutler-ill-be-the-first-person-to-admit-we-nee,37422/

CHICAGO—Following the team’s blowout 55-14 loss to the Green Bay Packers Sunday night, Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler told reporters Tuesday that he would be the first person to admit the team is in dire need of a new punter. “It’s certainly not an easy thing to say, but at the end of the day, someone has to step up and accept that mistakes were made by our punter, Pat O’Donnell,” said Cutler, who pointed to O’Donnell’s blocked punt in the third quarter as playing a major role in the team’s unraveling and conceded that blame for the team’s loss rested squarely on the rookie punter. “Going forward, there will have to be some serious adjustments made to our punt unit—when individual players aren’t doing their part out there, we’re going to fall short as a team. Pat didn’t play well, and he needs to accept responsibility for that.” Cutler went on to acknowledge that Bears long snapper Jeremy Cain will also need to step up his performance significantly before next week’s game against the Vikings if the team is to have any chance of turning its season around.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/bears- ... e-g,37314/

CHICAGO—Saying that the organization feels compelled to light a fire under its struggling quarterback, Chicago Bears general manager Phil Emery told reporters Wednesday that he is hoping to motivate Jay Cutler by offering him even more guaranteed money from his seven-year, $126 million contract. “We’re willing to do whatever it takes to push Jay to improve his performance on the field, so if a guaranteed $54 million isn’t getting the best out of him, then we’ll just have to go up to $70 million,” said Emery, adding that increasing Cutler’s promised earnings will hopefully incentivize the veteran passer to consistently play at the peak of his abilities and eventually lead the team to a Super Bowl. “All options are on the table at this point, whether we need to restructure his current contract or just scrap it altogether and offer a new 10-year deal with $90 million guaranteed. We just want to make sure we’re doing everything in our power to keep Jay focused on his game and driven to succeed.” At press time, sources close to the Bears front office confirmed that the team will be cutting Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, Matt Forte, and Jared Allen in order to clear enough cap space for Cutler’s new salary.

Blame it all on the PUNTER!!!!!

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[blumeany]

I think that after 4 offensive coordinators, 3 or 4 quarterbacks coaches, and 2 head coaches, we can safely say that it's not the coaching with Jay. Same result, different year.

[RedBulls23]

I think that after 4 offensive coordinators, 3 or 4 quarterbacks coaches, and 2 head coaches, we can safely say that it's not the coaching with Jay. Same result, different year.

That doesn't mean that the coaching doesn't suck.

[Stratmaster]

I think that after 4 offensive coordinators, 3 or 4 quarterbacks coaches, and 2 head coaches, we can safely say that it's not the coaching with Jay. Same result, different year.

Or, as most people believe, you can expect that it takes 3-4 seasons to become familiar and exceptionally competent with any offensive scheme and that the round robin of coaches and schemes ruined any chance the Bears offense had for being elite, regardless of the QB.

Or, you can just listen to Aaron Rodgers, who had three seasons on the bench watching one of the greatest QB's of all time to learn an offensive scheme which they have now been running for a decade, and to what he says about stability around a franchise QB.

Or you can just watch the Bears bench Cutler and follow up with their lowest point output of the season, with half of the points being given to them.

I don't know if Cutler could have been that guy or not. I do know that the Bears totally mishandled the situation from day one.

[chitownsports4ever]

I think that after 4 offensive coordinators, 3 or 4 quarterbacks coaches, and 2 head coaches, we can safely say that it's not the coaching with Jay. Same result, different year.

Or, as most people believe, you can expect that it takes 3-4 seasons to become familiar and exceptionally competent with any offensive scheme and that the round robin of coaches and schemes ruined any chance the Bears offense had for being elite, regardless of the QB.

Or, you can just listen to Aaron Rodgers, who had three seasons on the bench watching one of the greatest QB's of all time to learn an offensive scheme which they have now been running for a decade, and to what he says about stability around a franchise QB.

Or you can just watch the Bears bench Cutler and follow up with their lowest point output of the season, with half of the points being given to them.

I don't know if Cutler could have been that guy or not. I do know that the Bears totally mishandled the situation from day one.

The Bears scoring only 14 points today doesn't vindicate Cutler from his play they scored 17 a few weeks ago with him against that same defense.

Aaron Rodgers is a league MVP Cutler is nowhere near his ability . Its been 6 seasons and Cutler has not given us 2 months of pay where you just look at and say thats why we brought him . Hes had a couple of good weeks but yet to put anything together at all and its just time to move on .

We changed coaches because Cutler flatout couldn't adapt or refused to adapt and then we finally gave in fired Lovie the most successful coach we have had since Ditka for someone who would give and adapt to Jay and he still couldnt get it done because he flat out is not good as you think he is .

There is nothing more we can do for him as a franchise as we've already gave up everything including our identity for him .