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Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho?

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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#81 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Dec 7, 2014 2:55 am

I think PJ was an MJ pick.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#82 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Dec 7, 2014 3:00 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:Has Cho ever drafted a scorer? Nope.

Pro tip - go check out game logs for McD and Stauskas.

Hairston is outplaying both right now.


Says more about McDermott and Stauskas than it does Hairston. Underwhelming rookie class in general.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#83 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Dec 7, 2014 3:06 am

I thought Doug would be a bust.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#84 » by JDR720 » Sun Dec 7, 2014 3:09 am

Kemba is a scorer, Zeller isn't a scorer but he is an offensive player
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#85 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Dec 7, 2014 3:14 am

Beal is oh...wait! :(
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#86 » by yosemiteben » Sun Dec 7, 2014 4:32 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Cho must go!

For what exactly?
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#87 » by Braggins » Sun Dec 7, 2014 5:09 am

I like Cho. I think hes done pretty good in the draft. He drafts a lot of projects but they seem to be panning out. He hasnt made any bad trades. Hes managed the cap well. The Marvin signing was awful but thats my only complaint.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#88 » by NCHeels2008 » Sun Dec 7, 2014 7:11 am

I would be most critical of the Kemba extension, he may end up being a 6th man on a title level team. His shaky range and crappy FG% really holds him back in my mind.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#89 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Dec 7, 2014 7:16 am

NCHeels2008 wrote:I would be most critical of the Kemba extension, he may end up being a 6th man on a title level team. His shaky range and crappy FG% really holds him back in my mind.


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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#90 » by NCHeels2008 » Sun Dec 7, 2014 7:33 am

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NCHeels2008 wrote:I would be most critical of the Kemba extension, he may end up being a 6th man on a title level team. His shaky range and crappy FG% really holds him back in my mind.


Good luck getting people to agree with you on that on this board.


I mean I was okay with the extension at the time because he's young and you expect improvement, but I don't think anyone was going to throw much more money at him if we waited until the '15 offseason. I love his leadership and defense, but unless you have a team of shooters like the Spurs, Warriors or Hawks it's tough to have a PG who can't shoot.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#91 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Dec 7, 2014 8:00 am

NCHeels2008 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
NCHeels2008 wrote:I would be most critical of the Kemba extension, he may end up being a 6th man on a title level team. His shaky range and crappy FG% really holds him back in my mind.


Good luck getting people to agree with you on that on this board.


I mean I was okay with the extension at the time because he's young and you expect improvement, but I don't think anyone was going to throw much more money at him if we waited until the '15 offseason. I love his leadership and defense, but unless you have a team of shooters like the Spurs, Warriors or Hawks it's tough to have a PG who can't shoot.


Tough to have a PG who can't shoot period.
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Re: Who's more to blame for the struggles - Clifford or Cho? 

Post#92 » by UNCNYC » Sun Dec 7, 2014 10:48 am

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jdm3 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Pro tip - go check out game logs for McD and Stauskas.

Hairston is outplaying both right now.


Says more about McDermott and Stauskas than it does Hairston. Underwhelming rookie class in general.


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