Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade?

[Baddy Chuck]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2289961-the-one-trade-target-every-nba-contender-should-consider-adding/page/4

I'd take Waiters or the Memphis first for Henson.

[drew881]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2289961-the-one-trade-target-every-nba-contender-should-consider-adding/page/4

I'd take Waiters or the Memphis first for Henson.

Take the 1st, but a Waiters/Knight backcourt would be painful to watch.

[breakchains]

I don't even value Henson that highly but hell no to getting Waiters for him. Let someone else deal with that guy. The guys sense of self is out of control. He wants to run things on a team with Lebron, Kyrie, and Love No thanks.

[MiltownHawkeye]

I don't think it's possible for me to be any less interested in a current roster player on his rookie contract than Waiters. I'm honestly struggling to think of one. And Austin Rivers crossed my mind multiple times.

[breakchains]

He's a pretty damn good talent, just not someone I want on my basketball team. There's more to team building than compiling individually talented 1 on 1 players.

[theFireBlanket]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2289961-the-one-trade-target-every-nba-contender-should-consider-adding/page/4

I'd take Waiters or the Memphis first for Henson.

Take the 1st, but a Waiters/Knight backcourt would be painful to watch.

Giannis & Jabari would be held back by that duo, they would piss each of them off, definitely Sanders. It would be Mo-Redd, Jennings-Monta all over again.

[raferfenix]

Everything I've read about Waiters has made me frightened at what he could do to our ball movement and chemistry.

I'm not sure if he is the kind of trade asset Cleveland needs him to be to avoid trading the Memphis pick for extra help.

[raferfenix]

I know some are real down on Jrue Holiday. I haven't seen him play enough of late to forge a strong opinion but he does seem like the kind of buy-low PG prospect we should be considering.

Here's a Pelicans SB Nation blogger taking a look at what's been up with him this season:

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2014/12/8/ ... iday-trade

Holiday is still an interesting player, too. Holiday is still just 24 years old and based on the recent point guard development curve, I think there's still time for him to become the player New Orleans thought they traded for. Right now, Jrue is currently shooting just 30% on three-pointers, but he's a 37.1% shooter for his career from three. Combine that with his ability to finish when driving to the basket (50.6% on 138 drives this season), and that alone should produce a really good player. The problem is that he takes way too many mid-range jumpers, which is a product of Monty Williams' offense.

He's also not bad at creating for others, currently averaging 6.5 assists. Currently, there are two things that are stifling that process a bit. The first is that New Orleans has one three-point shooter on the team in Ryan Anderson. Even in his Philadelphia tenure, Holiday had a couple shooters he can move the ball to on the perimeter. The second is Tyreke Evans. Evans needs the ball to score, which often ends up with him deciding what happens on possessions a ton. I often imagine how the Pelicans would look if Holiday had the ball more to initiate the offense.

Speaking of Evans, the trade that was more questionable to me was the three-team trade involving, well, Tyreke Evans.

[mattg]

Holiday isn't very good. Not worth giving up anything of value for IMO. Bad shot selection and extremely turnover prone. He got far far too much credit his 'breakout' year in Philly where he scored poorly and was like the worst turnover guard in the league. I'd rather hold onto knight instead of going after holiday lol.

[BallinBucks420]

To get a third piece they will need to be cap smart, load up on picks to round of the roster, and make one big move in free agency - kind of like what GB did when they brought in Reggie White. The owner's need to wine and dine them and Kidd needs to be part of the sales job - then just over-pay a little for being in a small market. With GA, Parker, and Sanders as your long term answer. They need a big time shooter or classic PG. They don't need to over-pay Knight and feel he is the future PG. They need to shave salaries of some of the short term vets that were signed in Kohl's last year.

I would say they are on about a two to three year plan.

I agree with this. I think it would be fun if Rondo is the PG for a year or two. Over-paying is needed but I think G&J will benefit from it a lot, so worth the money. In any case I think the Bucks should get a PG who dished 2 or 3 ally oops to Giannis every game. That shouldn´t be too difficult. Too bad Knight is not able to do that, it seems...

dude can yoou stop with the rondo posts.. everytime theres a thread like this your posting something about us needing to get him.. its not going to happen and i think it would be a bad move imo

[JayMKE]

Pass first PG, guy like Rondo or Rubio or Nash. Someone in that mold would be ideal to pair with Jabari and Giannis. Get a SG like Wes Matthews and we got a contender I think.

[AussieBuck]

I think Rondo is a little clock dominant, he pretty much wants to end the play with his assist just about every possession. ( I know how that sounds CBF making it make more sense. )

[DutchManDanFan]

dude can yoou stop with the rondo posts.. everytime theres a thread like this your posting something about us needing to get him.. its not going to happen and i think it would be a bad move imo

I get your point and I will quit, rather sooner then later. But,
1. I don't think it's impossible
2. I don't think it's a bad move
3. I don't believe in a 3rd star through the draft with a 10-15 pick.
4. I'm interested in other PG's who might be available soon, but I can't name them. Ty Lawson maybe?

Kidd wants to get in the play off's this year and I think he will. G&J want that too.

The question for me is: What is needed to get Rondo (or another PG who suits the bill). Then we can answer the question if we want to give that price.
i don't think he'll stay in Boston. Do you? So does he want an extra ring or does he want money? Fortunately he already has a ring so there's a chance he goes for the next best thing. I'd be willing to pay him 30-35 mil. in 2 years. With the situation in Milwaukee (Kidd as HC) he might be tempted. After 2 years I'd go for CP3 (if the circumstances are right).
But I like to hear about other PG's who are already in the NBA for 3 years or more and would be great for the development of G&J.

[ferk]

if mil joins the party how about memphis keeps waiters and sends you guys adams , Prince( if shedding longer salary is something mil even wants ) and mil gets the mem 1st for ZaZa or dudley if prince is in the deal and middleton or henson or ingles or whatever combo of a big & SF ?

something like this with some picks tossed in along with fillers or whatever


mil gets adams, Prince , mem 1st
mem gets . Big + wing from mil be it prince for ZaZa / dudley and adams & mem 1st for middleton or whatever .

[Newz]

They also need a lights-out shooter. I don't know who that is.

Parker + Middleton for JJ Redick, IMO.

[LUKE23]

if mil joins the party how about memphis keeps waiters and sends you guys adams , Prince( if shedding longer salary is something mil even wants ) and mil gets the mem 1st for ZaZa or dudley if prince is in the deal and middleton or henson or ingles or whatever combo of a big & SF ?

something like this with some picks tossed in along with fillers or whatever


mil gets adams, Prince , mem 1st
mem gets . Big + wing from mil be it prince for ZaZa / dudley and adams & mem 1st for middleton or whatever .

I think every Bucks fan alive does this.

[Siefer]

They also need a lights-out shooter. I don't know who that is.

Parker + Middleton for JJ Redick, IMO.

Worst case, we can just flip him for a couple of seconds if it doesn't work out.

[ferk]

if mil joins the party how about memphis keeps waiters and sends you guys adams , Prince( if shedding longer salary is something mil even wants ) and mil gets the mem 1st for ZaZa or dudley if prince is in the deal and middleton or henson or ingles or whatever combo of a big & SF ?

something like this with some picks tossed in along with fillers or whatever


mil gets adams, Prince , mem 1st
mem gets . Big + wing from mil be it prince for ZaZa / dudley and adams & mem 1st for middleton or whatever .

EI think every Bucks fan alive does this.

So what exactly would the bucks wanna send out in a deal with prince,Adams,1st ? I'm more asking than suggesting any of these deals are close for either team.

[M-C-G]

I can't believe that anyone that advocates Knight is detrimental to this team, would then advocate in bringing in Dion Waiters. If LeBron can't get him under control, what in the world makes you think he would be a net positive here?

Per 36 career;

Knight - 15 pts, 4.4 ast, 3.9 reb on 42% shooting, 36% from three....TS% 52, usage 24
Waiters - 14.6 pts, 3.6 ast, 3.1 reb on 42% shooting, 33% from three...TS% 49.6 usage 26

Factor in character, work ethic, etc...And I would pick Knight to play at the 2 100 times out of 100 over Waiters (who by the way has a shorter standing reach than Knight).

[Newz]

I can't believe that anyone that advocates Knight is detrimental to this team, would then advocate in bringing in Dion Waiters. If LeBron can't get him under control, what in the world makes you think he would be a net positive here?

Per 36 career;

Knight - 15 pts, 4.4 ast, 3.9 reb on 42% shooting, 36% from three....TS% 52, usage 24
Waiters - 14.6 pts, 3.6 ast, 3.1 reb on 42% shooting, 33% from three...TS% 49.6 usage 26

Factor in character, work ethic, etc...And I would pick Knight to play at the 2 100 times out of 100 over Waiters (who by the way has a shorter standing reach than Knight).

Yup. Disliking Knight and then thinking it is a good idea to bring in Waiters is definitely a case of 'the grass is always greener'.