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Post#21 » by Nolan » Tue Dec 9, 2014 3:31 am

thelord2 wrote:Do you know something about salary cap?

Just explain me how could we sign him.


Basically if Manu and Tim retire we'll have enough cap space to offer Marc a pretty good deal.
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Post#22 » by thelord2 » Tue Dec 9, 2014 9:34 am

But you also have to consider the QO for Joseph and the renewals of Kawhi and one between Green and Belinelli.

So, what's left? Pretty nothing.
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Post#23 » by Nolan » Tue Dec 9, 2014 10:00 am

thelord2 wrote:But you also have to consider the QO for Joseph and the renewals of Kawhi and one between Green and Belinelli.

So, what's left? Pretty nothing.


The cap holds for Cojo and Kawhi won't be that much so in theory if we sign Marc before we extend either of them we'll still have room under the cap.

We'd basically be doing what the Rockets attempted to do this summer with Parsons.
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Post#24 » by thelord2 » Tue Dec 9, 2014 10:58 am

This affects me. For Joseph the cap hold would be the entire QO? And for Kawhi?

Offering a 15-16 millions' contract to Gasol, then, won't we ended up in luxury?
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Post#25 » by Nolan » Tue Dec 9, 2014 1:02 pm

thelord2 wrote:This affects me. For Joseph the cap hold would be the entire QO? And for Kawhi?

Offering a 15-16 millions' contract to Gasol, then, won't we ended up in luxury?


It'd be the QO for both and i'm not 100% sure if we'd be in the tax it would depend on what type of contracts we give to Kawhi and Cojo.
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Post#26 » by co_laper » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:51 am

thelord2 wrote:But you also have to consider the QO for Joseph and the renewals of Kawhi and one between Green and Belinelli.

So, what's left? Pretty nothing.


Cory's QO will be 3.2 mil and I truly doubt Spurs give him that especially with Tony and Patty already on board. Cory is gone. It's more likely that the Spurs let him be a UFA because we still retain his bird rights. But again, I just doubt Cory comes back to us next season to be a 3rd stringer again. He's played well enough this year to warrant a bigger role, especially as a backup PG, on different team.

We have 5 players under contract. Parker, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, and Kyle. Combined they make 26.4 million.

The salary cap numbers this year is 63.1 mil and the tax will be at 76.8 mil. Usually that increases every year, but let's just assume it doesn't because we don't know how much of an increase it'll be.

Basically, we have 36.7 million worth of cap room. 50.4 million until we hit the tax.

Let's say we do offer Marc Gasol 16 mil a year. We still have 20.7 mil of cap room, but Kawhi's QO is on the books for 4.3 mil. So we really only have 16.3 mil left to use. Let's just assume Marc is the only big name FA we get. We spend 4 million each on 2 players projected to be our backup PF and SF. The Marco type signing.

Then we resign Kawhi for his own max which is 15 million. I'm sure we'll also keep Danny Green. He'll probably get somewhere around 6 million. Let's also assume that we keep Marco and give him a bit of a raise. He's getting 2.8 this year, I think he should get at most 4 million.

Total that amount. you get 49 million. Spurs total salary will be at 75.4 million, still under the tax threshold (76.8 million). Might also resign Matt Bonner for the minimum.

And we're not left with nothing.

C. Marc Gasol / Tiago Splitter / Matt Bonner
PF. Boris Diaw / 4 mil Backup PF / 2015 Draft Pick
SF. Kawhi Leonard / 4 mil Backup SF / Kyle Anderson
SG. Danny Green / Marco Bellinelli
PG. Tony Parker / Patty Mills
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Post#27 » by thelord2 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:43 pm

I think you have to remake your counts. We have almost 33,5 millions guaranteed for next year.

Second, I'm not really sure that Joseph will be let go. Nowadays you can have two point guards on the floor and Mills can play also away from the ball. Then, I don't think that someone will offer much money to him.

Speaking about the backup SF I'd like Carroll (FA) and Crowder (UFA).
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Post#28 » by co_laper » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:44 pm

thelord2 wrote:I think you have to remake your counts. We have almost 33,5 millions guaranteed for next year.

Second, I'm not really sure that Joseph will be let go. Nowadays you can have two point guards on the floor and Mills can play also away from the ball. Then, I don't think that someone will offer much money to him.

Speaking about the backup SF I'd like Carroll (FA) and Crowder (UFA).


We have 33.5 million including Kawhi and Cory's QO. I subtracted Cory because if we decide to keep Danny and bring back Marco, there's really no room for Cory other than being our 3rd PG. Yeah, he can play SG, but Marco is our backup SG. Patty is our backup PG. When everyone is healthy, he's our third string PG, and if you want to count him as a SG too, he's our third string SG. If his QO was 1 or 2 mil, I'd probably say we keep him. But he's 3.5 mil. That's way too much for a 3rd stringer. Even if decline his QO and make him Unrestricted FA, we still retain his bird rights. The only thing we lose is the ability to match his offers. I really have my doubts that Cory will garner that much attention from other teams. He's nothing more than a solid backup PG and he doesn't really have history on his side. This is his first time in his career playing like a decent backup PG.
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Post#29 » by thelord2 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:25 pm

Hang on,
Parker 13,4 + Tiago 8,5 + Diaw 7 + Mills 3,5 + Anderson 1,1 are 33,6 millions. Or am I wrong?

Then, I've just read that the cap holds for Kawhi and CoJo amounted to 12 millions (250% of their previous salaries).

On the player's value (Joseph) we are on the same page. I just think that we can try lineups with both Parker and Mills on the court. So Cory could still have his role in the team.
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Post#30 » by co_laper » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:32 am

thelord2 wrote:Hang on,
Parker 13,4 + Tiago 8,5 + Diaw 7 + Mills 3,5 + Anderson 1,1 are 33,6 millions. Or am I wrong?

Then, I've just read that the cap holds for Kawhi and CoJo amounted to 12 millions (250% of their previous salaries).

On the player's value (Joseph) we are on the same page. I just think that we can try lineups with both Parker and Mills on the court. So Cory could still have his role in the team.


Oh.. yeah you're right. I forgot to add Diaw's 7.5 mil when I used my calculator.

But Kawhi's cap hold is his Qualifying Offer. Cory's, like I said, I didn't count because I don't think the Spurs offer a 3.5 mil QO for a 3rd string PG. It's Danny Green and Marco's cap holds that I forgot to add because that eats into our available cap room unless we renounce their Bird rights.

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