Knicks Most Interested In Trading Away J.R. Smith

[kane2021]

JR Smith can be traded now. We dont have to wait to trade him. The idea that another team signed a player this off season to trade us for JR is kinda out there. I think more likely we are waiting till the 15th to trade someone WE signed this summer.

More options on Dec. 15th.

Ok. And here they are. Some are still free agents. Which one of these guys was signed this summer by a team to be traded to us for smith?

We can't get so enamored with what is happening right now that we don't protect what's ahead of us, so that's a concern. If we evaluate a player and see he's going to be a long-term person who is going to fit in our organization, we'll do that. But right now those things aren't jumping out

Me personally, I think the 4th guy on that list and the 15th guy on that list is who Phil is hanging this date over.


1 James, LeBron SF 29 11 UFA Heat Cavaliers 2 years, $42 million (7/11/14)
2 Bosh, Chris PF 30 11 UFA Heat Heat 5 years, $118 million (7/11/14)
3 Nowitzki, Dirk PF 36 16 UFA Mavericks Mavericks 3 years, $25 million (7/3/14)
4 Anthony, Carmelo SF 30 11 UFA Knicks Knicks 5 years, $129 million (7/12/14)
5 Lowry, Kyle PG 28 8 UFA Raptors Raptors 4 years, $48 million (7/2/14)
6 Bledsoe, Eric PG 24 4 RFA Suns Suns 5 years, $70 million (9/24/14)
7 Monroe, Greg PF 24 4 RFA Pistons Pistons 1-year qualifying offer, $5.4 million (9/05/14)
8 Stephenson, Lance SG 23 4 UFA Pacers Hornets 3 years, $27 million (7/16/14)
9 Parsons, Chandler SF 25 3 RFA Rockets Mavericks 3 years, $46 million (7/13/14)
10 Wade, Dwyane SG 32 11 UFA Heat Heat 2 years, $32M (7/15/14)
11 Deng, Luol SF 29 10 UFA Cavaliers Heat 2 year, $20 million (7/13/14)
12 Hayward, Gordon SG 24 4 RFA Jazz Jazz 4 years, $63 million (7/12/14)
13 Gortat, Marcin PF 30 7 UFA Wizards Wizards 5 years, $62 million (7/1/14)
14 Ariza, Trevor SG 28 10 UFA Wizards Rockets 3-way trade (7/13/14)
15 Gasol, Pau PF 33 13 UFA Lakers Bulls 3 years, $22 million (7/12/14)
16 Thomas, Isaiah PG 25 3 RFA Kings Suns Sign-and-trade (7/11/14)
17 Livingston, Shaun PG 28 10 UFA Nets Warriors 3 years, $16 million (7/1/14)
18 Pierce, Paul SF 36 16 UFA Nets Wizards 2 years, $10 million (7/13/14)
19 Carter, Vince SG 37 16 UFA Mavericks Grizzlies 3 years, $12 million (7/12/14)
20 Diaw, Boris PF 32 11 UFA Spurs Spurs 3 years, $22 million (7/6/14)
21 Allen, Ray SG 38 18 UFA Heat -- --
22 Bradley, Avery PG 23 4 RFA Celtics Celtics 4 years, $32 million (7/2/14)
23 Marion, Shawn PF 36 15 UFA Mavericks Cavaliers 1 year, veterans minimum (8/17/14)
24 Okafor, Emeka C 31 10 UFA Suns -- --
25 Stuckey, Rodney PG 31 7 UFA Pistons Pacers 1 year deal (7/16/14)
26 Blatche, Andray C 27 9 UFA Nets -- --
27 Mills, Patty PG 25 5 UFA Spurs Spurs 3 years, $12 million (7/2/14)
28 Tucker, P.J. SF 29 3 RFA Suns Suns 3 years, $16.5 million (7/10/14)
29 McRoberts, Josh PF 27 7 UFA Hornets Heat 4 years, $23 million (7/7/14)
30 Vasquez, Greivis PG 27 4 RFA Raptors Raptors 2-years, $13 million (7/09/14)
31 Young, Nick SG 29 7 UFA Lakers Lakers 4 years, $21.5 million (7/11/14)
32 Nelson, Jameer PG 32 11 UFA Magic Mavericks 1 year, $2.7M (7/23/14)
33 Hill, Jordan PF 26 5 UFA Lakers Lakers 2 years, $18 million (7/11/14)
34 Miles, C.J. SF 27 9 UFA Cavaliers Pacers 4 years, $18 million deal (7/2/14)
35 Blake, Steve PG 34 11 UFA Warriors Blazers 2 years, $4.2 million (7/10/14)
36 Harris, Devin PG 31 10 UFA Mavericks Mavericks 3 years, $9 million (7/5/14)
37 Bayless, Jerryd PG 25 6 UFA Celtics Bucks Terms not disclosed (8/1/14)
38 Brooks, Aaron PG 29 6 UFA Nuggets Bulls 1 year, $915,243 (7/25/14)
39 Miller, Mike SF 34 14 UFA Grizzlies Cavaliers 2 years, $5.5 million (7/15/14)
40 Scott, Mike PF 26 2 RFA Hawks Hawks 3 years, $10 million (8/02/14)
41 Anderson, Alan SF 31 5 UFA Nets Nets 2 years, $3 million (7/14/14)
42 Hawes, Spencer C 26 7 UFA Cavaliers Clippers 4 years, $23 million (7/4/14)
43 Ridnour, Luke PG 33 11 UFA Hornets Magic 2 years, $5.5 million (7/16/14)
44 Williams, Mo PG 31 11 UFA Trail Blazers Timberwolves 1 year, $3.75 million (7/28/14)
45 Patterson, Patrick PF 25 4 RFA Raptors Raptors 3 years, $18 million (7/4/14)
46 Chalmers, Mario PG 28 6 UFA Heat Heat 2 years, $8.3 million (7/13/14)
47 Crawford, Jordan SG 26 4 RFA Warriors -- --
48 Sessions, Ramon PG 28 7 UFA Bucks Kings 2 years, $4.2 million (9/20/14)
49 Collison, Darren PG 26 5 UFA Clippers Kings 3 years, $16 million (7/3/14)
50 Frye, Channing C 31 9 UFA Suns Magic 4 years, $32 million (7/7/14)
51 Morrow, Anthony SG 28 6 UFA Pelicans Thunder 3 years, $10 million (7/12/14)
52 Augustin, D.J. PG 27 6 UFA Bulls Pistons 2 years, $6 million (7/13/14)
53 Farmar, Jordan PG 28 7 UFA Lakers Clippers 2 years, $4.2 million (7/6/14)
54 Booker, Trevor PF 27 4 RFA Wizards Jazz 2 years, $10 million (7/15/14)
55 Hinrich, Kirk PG 32 11 UFA Bulls Bulls 2 years, $2 million (7/13/14)
56 Humphries, Kris PF 28 10 UFA Celtics Wizards 3 years, $13 million (7/15/14)
57 O'Neal, Jermaine C 36 18 UFA Warriors -- --
58 Andersen, Chris PF 35 13 UFA Heat Heat Multi-year contract (7/13/14)
59 Davis, Ed PF 24 4 RFA Grizzlies Lakers 2 years, $2 million (7/16/14)
60 Aminu, Al-Farouq SF 24 4 UFA Pelicans Mavericks 2 years, $2.1 million (7/24/14)
61 Blair, DeJuan PF 25 5 UFA Mavericks Wizards Sign-and-trade (7/16/14)
62 Brand, Elton PF 35 15 UFA Hawks Hawks 1 year, $2 million (9/10/14)
63 Cunningham, Dante SF 27 5 UFA Timberwolves -- --
64 Sefolosha, Thabo SF 29 8 UFA Thunder Hawks 3 years, $12 million (7/03/14)
65 Williams, Marvin PF 28 9 UFA Jazz Hornets 2 years, $14 million (7/12/14)
66 Gooden, Drew PF 33 12 UFA Wizards Wizards Terms undisclosed (7/18/14)
67 Haslem, Udonis PF 34 11 UFA Heat Heat 2 years, $5.6 million (7/01/14)
68 Kelly, Ryan PF 23 1 RFA Lakers Lakers Agrees to 2-year contract (7/19/14)
69 Johnson, James PF 27 5 UFA Grizzlies Raptors 2 years, $5 million (7/10/14)
70 Meeks, Jodie SG 27 5 UFA Lakers Pistons 3 years, $19 million (7/1/14)
71 Smith, Jason PF 27 7 UFA Pelicans Knicks 1 year, $3.3 million (7/15/14)
72 Daniels, Troy SG 22 1 RFA Rockets Rockets 2 years (7/14/14)
73 Temple, Garrett SG 28 4 UFA Wizards Wizards 2 years (7/18/14)
74 Tolliver, Anthony PF 28 7 UFA Hornets Suns 2 years, $6 million (7/16/14)
75 Butler, Caron SF 34 12 UFA Thunder Pistons 2 year, $9 million (7/13/14)
76 Douglas-Roberts, Chris SG 27 5 UFA Hornets Clippers Terms not disclosed (9/01/14)
77 Roberts, Brian PG 28 2 RFA Pelicans Hornets 2 years, $5.5 million (7/14/14)
78 Adrien, Jeff PF 28 4 UFA Bucks Rockets 1 year, veterans minimum (7/15/14)
79 Henry, Xavier SF 23 4 UFA Lakers Lakers 1 year, $1 million (7/18/14)
80 Beasley, Michael PF 25 6 UFA Heat Grizzlies Non-guaranteed contract (9/23/14)
81 Fredette, Jimmer PG 25 3 UFA Bulls Pelicans Agrees to 1-year contract (7/18/14)
82 Davis, Glen PF 28 7 UFA Clippers Clippers 1 year, $1.2M (7/17/14)
83 Garcia, Francisco SG 33 9 UFA Rockets Rockets 1 year, $1.3 million (9/22/14)
84 Bazemore, Kent SG 24 2 RFA Lakers Hawks 2 years, $4 million (8/12/14)
85 Kaman, Chris C 32 11 UFA Lakers Blazers 2 years, $10 million (7/03/14)
86 Billups, Chauncey PG 37 17 UFA Pistons -- Announced retirement (9/10/14)
87 Jefferson, Richard SF 34 13 UFA Jazz Mavericks 1 year, veterans minimum (7/13/14)
88 Granger, Danny SF 31 9 UFA Clippers Heat 2 years, $4.2 million (7/7/14)
89 Barbosa, Leandro SG 32 11 UFA Suns Warriors 1 year, veterans minimum (8/28/14)
90 Bonner, Matt PF 33 10 UFA Spurs Spurs 1 year, veterans minimum (7/13/14)
91 Udrih, Beno PG 31 10 UFA Grizzlies Grizzlies Terms undisclosed (7/15/14)
92 Hamilton, Jordan SF 23 3 UFA Rockets Raptors 1-year, terms undiscolsed (8/14/14)
93 Mack, Shelvin PG 24 3 RFA Hawks Hawks 3 years, $7.3 million (7/25/14)
94 Murry, Toure SG 25 1 UFA Knicks -- --
95 Seraphin, Kevin C 25 4 RFA Wizards Wizards $3.8 million qualifying offer(7/18/14)
96 Harrington, Al PF 34 16 UFA Wizards -- --
97 Jones, James SF 33 11 UFA Heat Cavaliers 1 year (7/16/14)
98 Ayon, Gustavo PF 29 3 RFA Hawks Real Madrid Will play overseas (9/23/14)
99 Butler, Rasual SG 35 11 UFA Pacers Wizards Non-guaranteed contract (9/3/14)
100 Johnson, Wesley SF 26 4 UFA Lakers Lakers 1 Year, $1 million (7/18/14)
101 Douglas, Toney PG 28 5 UFA Heat -- --
102 Baynes, Aron PF 27 2 RFA Spurs -- --
103 Lewis, Rashard PF 34 16 UFA Heat Mavericks 1 year, veterans minimum (7/16/14)
104 Turner, Evan SF 25 4 RFA Pacers Celtics Mid-level exception (7/21/14)
105 Vesely, Jan PF 24 3 UFA Nuggets Fenerbahce Playing overseas (7/19/14)
106 Mullens, Byron C 25 5 UFA 76ers -- --
107 Oden, Greg C 26 6 UFA Heat -- --
108 Turkoglu, Hedo SF 35 14 UFA Clippers Clippers 1 year, $1.4 million (8/31/14)
109 Watson, Earl PG 35 13 UFA Trail Blazers -- --
110 Gray, Aaron C 29 7 UFA Kings Pistons Terms undisclosed (8/18/14)
111 Udoh, Ekpe PF 27 4 UFA Bucks Clippers 1 year, $1 million (9/03/14)
112 Villanueva, Charlie PF 29 9 UFA Pistons Mavericks Terms undisclosed (9/26/14)
113 Miller, Darius SF 24 2 RFA Pelicans Pelicans Terms undisclosed (7/28/14)
114 Pargo, Jannero PG 34 11 UFA Hornets Hornets 1 year, $1.5 million (7/18/14)
115 De Colo, Nando PG 27 2 RFA Raptors CSKA Moscow Playing overseas (7/7/14)
116 Hollins, Ryan C 29 8 UFA Clippers Kings 1 year, veterans minimum (9/17/14)
117 Martin, Kenyon PF 36 14 UFA Knicks -- --
118 Moore, E'Twaun PG 25 3 RFA Magic Bulls Terms undisclosed (9/18/14)
119 Martin, Cartier SF 29 6 UFA Hawks Pistons 1 year, undisclosed (7/1/14)
120 Allen, Lavoy PF 25 3 RFA Pacers Pacers Terms undisclosed (7/05/14)
121 Brooks, MarShon SG 25 3 UFA Lakers Olympia (Italy) Will play overseas (8/08/14)
122 Bynum, Andrew C 26 9 UFA Pacers -- --
123 Jeffers, Othyus SG 28 3 RFA Timberwolves -- --
124 James, Damion SF 26 4 UFA Spurs -- --
125 Hummel, Robbie SF 25 1 RFA Timberwolves Timberwolves 1 year, $900,000 (7/28/14)
126 Collins, Jason SF 35 13 UFA Nets -- --
127 Mohammed, Nazr C 36 16 UFA Bulls Bulls 1 year, veterans minimum (9/23/14)
128 Singleton, Chris SF 24 3 UFA Wizards -- --
129 Thomas, Adonis SG 21 1 RFA 76ers -- --
130 Cunningham, Jared SG 23 2 UFA Kings -- --
131 White, D.J. PF 27 6 UFA Hornets -- --
132 James, Bernard C 29 2 RFA Mavericks Mavericks 1 year, veterans minimum (8/22/14)
133 Southerland, James SF 24 1 RFA Pelicans -- --
134 Jerrett, Grant PF 20 1 RFA Thunder Thunder Terms undisclosed (7/16/14)
135 Rush, Brandon SG 28 6 UFA Jazz Warriors 2 years, $2.5 million (7/16/14)

[NOOB77]

A lot of teams that play in a wide open system that need scoring for the SG/SF spot could use JR. I doubt teams that have a very structured system will be calling but wide open teams or teams really lacking scoring should be interested.

Portland
PHX
Sacramento
Lakers
Memphis maybe
Hornets
Miami
Indiana
Bucks (would be more interested in THjr I think)

[Capn'O]

JR Smith can be traded now. We dont have to wait to trade him. The idea that another team signed a player this off season to trade us for JR is kinda out there. I think more likely we are waiting till the 15th to trade someone WE signed this summer.

Implying Melo is being traded...?! Dum dum duuuum (ominous music).

You may have misspelled "Larkin."

[GONYK]

JR Smith can be traded now. We dont have to wait to trade him. The idea that another team signed a player this off season to trade us for JR is kinda out there. I think more likely we are waiting till the 15th to trade someone WE signed this summer.

Implying Melo is being traded...?! Dum dum duuuum (ominous music).

You may have misspelled "Larkin."

Or literally anyone without a no trade clause

[Houston99]

i really dont think the jr will be that hard to move. we need to move to crappy team for nothing.

I think we can get two ball racks for him, don't you think?

there is no way a team would offer two ball racks for him...i think a team would just offer us a ball and it might be flat.

[GardenFaith]

Trade everyone, not a single player I really care about on our roster.

[nykfan42]

JR Smith is not the problem.

He is. And the extra 7 mil in cap space we can get for getting rid of him is a good thing.

[EMG518]

Im just looking through the contracts posted and my reaction is just wow. Just think about this, Kyle Lowry signed for 4y 48m and Melo signed for 5y 129m.

[frogfood]

thats the silliest thing Ive read in weeks

shame on you

Both really don't have value. Not sure how anyone expects to shed JR for cap space without sweetening the pot.

clueless

THjr probably has more value than anyone on this team

all around the league people have been asking for him in trade and getting rebuked

how are you so clue free on TH?

he has a lot of flaws but the kid has talent. he's not a throw in or pot sweetener.
thinkers like you are why the knicks can never build talent

THJ having more value than anyone on the team doesn't mean much. What do you think we can get out of THJ straight up? A late 1st?

Knicks can never build talent because their talent development is piss poor.

[GONYK]

thats the silliest thing Ive read in weeks

shame on you

Both really don't have value. Not sure how anyone expects to shed JR for cap space without sweetening the pot.

clueless

THjr probably has more value than anyone on this team

all around the league people have been asking for him in trade and getting rebuked

how are you so clue free on TH?

he has a lot of flaws but the kid has talent. he's not a throw in or pot sweetener.
thinkers like you are why the knicks can never build talent

Where is this information coming from?

[mpharris36]

Where is this information coming from?

melo's underwear?

[frogfood]

Both really don't have value. Not sure how anyone expects to shed JR for cap space without sweetening the pot.

clueless

THjr probably has more value than anyone on this team

all around the league people have been asking for him in trade and getting rebuked

how are you so clue free on TH?

he has a lot of flaws but the kid has talent. he's not a throw in or pot sweetener.
thinkers like you are why the knicks can never build talent

Where is this information coming from?

A quick hoopshype search didn't net much but I got this from July 20th: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks ... -j-r-shump

Tim Hardaway Jr. has been deemed virtually untouchable, per a source.

I mean, not that I believe any iota of that but hey, someone wrote it so it must be true.

[Meat]

Im just looking through the contracts posted and my reaction is just wow. Just think about this, Kyle Lowry signed for 4y 48m and Melo signed for 5y 129m.

melo is a hall of famer with a history of taking his team to the playoffs, lowry is a 2nd tier pg that's had 1 good season his entire career

[NoLayupRule]

Where is this information coming from?

melo's underwear?

yes but its been expressed in several articles as well

hes a promising young guard

he has value

anyone who doesn't think so is too close to this team and its disappointment

[dakomish23]

that option will scare everyone away, because everyone knows smith next contract will be the vet minimum

this is his last time to make bread, and spend it on stupid things

I don't think that option is that hateful, and frankly, a team like Portland who not only could use the bench scoring, can look to that option as a worst case scenario if Wes Matthews decides to leave in Free Agency.

Talk about a downgrade. Id trade all 3 of our SGs for Wes Mathews

[dakomish23]

Im just looking through the contracts posted and my reaction is just wow. Just think about this, Kyle Lowry signed for 4y 48m and Melo signed for 5y 129m.

melo is a hall of famer with a history of taking his team to the playoffs, lowry is a 2nd tier pg that's had 1 good season his entire career

How dare you say something positive and true on this board?!!

[dakomish23]

I tried Wes Mathews for our 3 SGs and it said we'd gain 3 wins and they'd lose 4. I think they're underestimating how many losses those 3 can help you get

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q7zfc3l

[god shammgod]

i'm sure people do call for timmy. he's young and paid very little. they'll take a chance they can improve him. but what will they give you for that chance ? some older player we don't want. a 2nd rounder. 2 if you're really lucky. you're not getting a 1st rounder for him. you're not getting much.

[GONYK]

i'm sure people do call for timmy. he's young and paid very little. they'll take a chance they can improve him. but what will they give you for that chance ? some older player we don't want. a 2nd rounder. 2 if you're really lucky. you're not getting a 1st rounder for him. you're not getting much.

Yup, I'm sure the phone is ringing off the hook for Amare too as long as we are willing to take back garbage.

[mpharris36]

i'm sure people do call for timmy. he's young and paid very little. they'll take a chance they can improve him. but what will they give you for that chance ? some older player we don't want. a 2nd rounder. 2 if you're really lucky. you're not getting a 1st rounder for him. you're not getting much.

I think it would make the most sense is to trade Timmy along with JR to rid his contract. Get an expiring back a couple 2nd round picks and that would be a solid deal for the knicks.

Now I still believe shumpert has first round value.