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Post#201 » by brownbobcat » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:54 pm

PaulieWal wrote:4-5k? :lol:

Unless Ross and his baby's mother are getting together you can bet she will be seeking at least double-triple of that in child support payments. He's making about $2.8 mil this year, no way he isn't shelling a lot more than 4-5k in child support per month.

Terrell Owens has made loads more money during his career than Ross and he was paying something like $45k/month spread over 4 kids, so I can't imagine why Ross should have to pay that much more. Different jurisdictions have different guidelines, though.
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Post#202 » by m83588333 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:55 pm

If some nameless stripper told me I was going to be financially responsible for the next 18 years to her and her white baby, I would be more ready to perform in the playoffs not less.
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Post#203 » by HeartBreaking » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:01 pm

*jack armstrong voice* "If you want to go in raw on hoes, you gotta pay the price"
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Post#204 » by CB4Champ » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:10 pm

Sigh, I found this article from a group called sisters of resistance that speaks on the hypersexualization of society, and the EXTREME DEGRADATION of Women.

I hope you guys understand that We all as Men have played a role in this absolute humiliation of Women as just meat and sex objects to the point that a UNDERAGE!!! 17 yearold girl "hip hop artist" OG Niki, Nikesha is rapping about having sex with 6 men(little dogs not men) in a row. Credit that vehicle of hip hop and all the women in that music genre that promote the sexual oppression of women by the white supremacist system and media. And you guys laugh and giggle about these women and how they look on this "realgm(Wheres the realness)" forum as if your at some slave mart comparing which girl to sleep with next. Keep it up doggy's.

Now we have 17 yearold girls singing about sex..Im just sick to my stomach. Just read the damn article:


Sex and Spittin: OG Niki - A Message for Fans and Haters

by Sisters of Resistance

http://sistersofresistance.wordpress.co ... n-og-niki/


A small group of Sisters of Resistance recently spent an evening talking about OG Niki, real name Nikesha, and listening to her interviews, ‘spit your game’ and her tunes. Here we reflect on this discussion and offer our support to her and other young women who’ve had similar experiences. We also look at some of the underlying issues raised by her lyrics and peoples responses to them.

OG Niki has received a lot of attention because she spits about her sexual experiences.
Despite being only 17 years old, she describes having sex with six men in a row, being “f***ed in the mouth” and refers to herself as a “freak.” While young women who do group sex and other controversial sex acts are often shamed into silence about their experiences, Nikesha is honest. Many people have responded by labelling her a “whore” and in her home town Birmingham, she is known as “loose.”
As well as being insulting, these labels are dangerous – women described in this way find they don’t have the power to refuse the sexual advances of men who assume they are always available for sex.
Providing men with sex however and whenever they demand it is part of the identity enforced upon women categorised as “hoes.” This categorisation contributes to the culture of sexism that maintains male domination and reflects society’s unfair over-policing of women’s sexuality.

“you can’t keep goin on like that”

In a voicenote leaked on Youtube, Nikesha describes having sex with six men. She doesn’t mention her own pleasure or orgasm but notes when the men “buss.” She expresses surprise when they exchange places suggesting she did not know beforehand how many men were going to be involved. She tries to refuse the last two men. She states “nah, I’m not doing it” to the fifth man who demands oral sex but goes through with it anyway “in the end.” Of the last man she states:


Then Hecky (sp?) come. And obviously – Do you know how long I was- Do you know how long I’m sayin to Hecky now, nothing is gonna happen between us because obviously Kevin is my bredrin. He’s sayin to me “nah man, you can’t keep goin on like that, Kevin’s in Leicester” I’m saying to him [raises her voice] “I’m not f***ing you, nothing is going on.” [Lowers voice] But obviously Hecky sweet talked his way round and Hecky got his and Hecky was going for a good hour coz I was at Scorps’s (sp?) from 12 ‘til 6.

“Line-ups” are common but this does not make them right. In the UK, footballers have been caught doing it and in the USA, where it’s called “running a train”, there was a case involving an 11 year old girl and 18 men aged from 14 to 27. With Nikesha, when she said she was not willing to have sex with them, those men should have listened to her. Coercing women into sex has another name: rape. Nikesha seems to be using her lyrics to talk about these very difficult experiences in a positive way perhaps as a coping mechanism but this arguably has the unfortunate effect of normalising gang rape.

Nikesha’s lyrics might be controversial and shocking but explicit sexual content is nothing new.
Rihanna recently did a mainstream song about sadomasochism and most female artists and women in music videos are hypersexualised and objectified. With internet access on mobile phones and ever more explicit imagery in music videos and adverts, Nikesha is from a generation that has seen hardcore porn go mainstream. With this context in mind, it becomes clear that Nikesha’s actions and lyrics are the logical conclusion of a dehumanising capitalist culture in which sex is used to sell us everything from cars and clothes to perfume and music.


Nikesha’s generation lacks strong female role models but there are some female artists such as Lauryn Hill, Erykah Badu, India Arie and Etana who resist consumerism and express their sexuality in a way which rejects male domination,
reflects their humanity and complexity and doesn’t support the division of all women into two simplistic, sexist categories: hoe or housewife/sket or wifey. The conscious artists who do not endorse the idea that sex should be used to sell us things we don’t need do not get the same support from corporate record labels as those who reduce life down to money, meaningless sex, cars and alcohol.
It’s interesting that within a month of her “spit your game” Nikesha has already been presented with a management deal while more experienced female MCs from Birmingham are overlooked.

“When men boast about sex they get ratings so why can’t women?”

Not everyone has responded to OG Nikesha in the same negative way, she has almost 20,000 followers on Twitter and seems to be building a substantial fan base. On Youtube and Facebook there have been numerous comments pointing out that when men boast about sex they get ratings so why can’t women? While these comments are right to point out the unfair sexual double standard that has long oppressed and policed women and their sexuality, the context is not the same.
Men and women do not have equality; men have more financial, political, social and cultural power. Men do not rap about eating pussy and swallowing come or getting f***ed by six women in a row and even if they did, because the context is different, it would not have the same implications. Under patriarchy, women have never had full control over their sexuality.
From the days of the chastity belt to the modern stigma attached to women who enjoy sex, male desires and demands control women’s bodies and their understanding and enjoyment of sex. Nikesha’s music must be placed in this context.

“she’s doing anything I say no longting”


Nikesha’s lyrics rarely mention her enjoyment; she does not promote a model of sex that encourages freedom and respect for women. She simply fulfils pornographic male fantasies that suggest women’s role in sex is to only please men.
A clear
example of this is her tune with Sneakbo, in which he says of Nikesha “she’s on this, doing anything I say no longting.” This is a model of sexual relationships in which the man makes demands and the woman simply complies. The woman does not have her own desires separate from the man’s and she cannot refuse him. In this track Nikesha’s explicit and controversial lyrics are matched by Sneakbo who boasts about his virility in keeping with racist stereotypes of masculinity that hyper-sexualise black men.


As a young black woman explicitly discussing her sexuality, Nikesha demonstrates how racism, sexism and issues facing young people today overlap. No one from the media or the grime community has expressed any concern that Nikesha has experienced such sex acts despite not yet being old enough to vote or drink alcohol.


Her explicit lyrics and claims that she has had “a lot of sex” can’t be seen as separate from the sexualisation of young women which is also undeniably linked to issues of race and gender.
Whilst all young women are increasingly sexualised and exposed to sexual images, the historical role of the myth of the promiscuous black woman or “jezebel” is especially relevant here. With the half a million views her video has received and her status a global trending topic on Twitter, you can be sure that if she was white her sexual experiences would have produced sexist outcry from the tabloid press and aroused racist interest from the police.


“Sex and violence don’t mix”

Nikesha and young women like her deserve consensual sexual relationships that make them feel happy and fulfilled. No one, of any race, gender, age, background or sexual orientation, deserves to be mistreated, labelled or violated. Sisters of Resistance actively support the expression and exploration of sex and female sexuality. But we also fully reject sexual acts that leave any or all of the participants feeling misunderstood, disrespected or dehumanised. We fight against a sexist and racist dominant culture that normalises violence against women, stereotypes black women and men and destroys a potentially beautiful act of physical unity. Sex and violence don’t mix.

http://sistersofresistance.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/sex-and-spittin-og-niki/
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Re: Terrence Ross is a father 

Post#205 » by Hue Durant » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:17 pm

dude. just stop
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Post#206 » by HeartBreaking » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:22 pm

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Post#207 » by PenguinBoxer » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:31 pm

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KingSebastian wrote:This explains his horrible playoff performance. Hard for any man to succeed with this kind of news hanging over your head. (do the math if anyone is confused by this post)

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Does make a whole lot of sense now. Down in April, his gf prolly just told him she was pregnant for a month or a lil over. Considering that she is prolly some girl he is dating with no plans of fathering a child, he got shook by the news and affected his play


not quite... his GF he had forever... the one from school and went to cabo with quincy acey dumped him when she found out he knocked up some escort.. dudes just a idiot, same with this team, all filled with dudes who rather chase C grade women than focus on basketball.... why u think i made this thread... was i wrong?

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Post#208 » by Korr » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:33 pm

CB4Champ wrote:blerg

CB4Champ - I'm sure you will be the proudest parent when you find out your teenage daughter had sex with 6 dudes then raps about it publicly.

Also - fighting the notion that women are sex objects by acting like a sex object doesn't really make sense does it?
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Post#209 » by PaulieWal » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:53 pm

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PaulieWal wrote:4-5k? :lol:

Unless Ross and his baby's mother are getting together you can bet she will be seeking at least double-triple of that in child support payments. He's making about $2.8 mil this year, no way he isn't shelling a lot more than 4-5k in child support per month.

Terrell Owens has made loads more money during his career than Ross and he was paying something like $45k/month spread over 4 kids, so I can't imagine why Ross should have to pay that much more. Different jurisdictions have different guidelines, though.


Also, depends on whether the parents have joint custody or one parent has primary/sole custody. Also depends on how much the mother will ask from the judge and how much she gets awarded (in bad relationships the parent asking for child support will always push for maximum). As you yourself said different areas will have different minimums and maximums. For example, PG's kid's mom wanted the child support and custody hearing held in NY instead of Florida which is seen as more favorable to moms and awards higher child support amounts. 4-5k is on very low end and the only way that works is if Ross has the primary custody of the kid. If the mother has the primary custody Ross will end up paying a lot more than that in monthly payments.
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Post#210 » by C Court » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:03 pm

Child support in Canada is governed by law and minimums are set by the government. Terrence's girlfriend will have primary custody of the child.

It's entirely based on income of the father and the number of children the father is supporting. There are no provisions which make it commensurate with access to the child. Child access is part of a separate agreement which is not tied to the payment of child support.

This Government of Canada Child Support calculator is here:

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fl-df/chil ... k-rech.asp

Terrence Ross is earning $2.7 mil USD /$3.0 mil CDN.

Using the Canadian income figure, Terrence is legally obligated to pay $22,353 CDN per month ($268k/yr) based on the Ontario guidelines.

The number is adjusted each year based on Terrence's income and support may be lowered if he is supporting other children.
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Post#211 » by Inklink » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:03 pm

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Post#212 » by m83588333 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:04 pm

PaulieWal wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:4-5k? :lol:

Unless Ross and his baby's mother are getting together you can bet she will be seeking at least double-triple of that in child support payments. He's making about $2.8 mil this year, no way he isn't shelling a lot more than 4-5k in child support per month.

Terrell Owens has made loads more money during his career than Ross and he was paying something like $45k/month spread over 4 kids, so I can't imagine why Ross should have to pay that much more. Different jurisdictions have different guidelines, though.


Also, depends on whether the parents have joint custody or one parent has primary/sole custody. Also depends on how much the mother will ask from the judge and how much she gets awarded (in bad relationships the parent asking for child support will always push for maximum). As you yourself said different areas will have different minimums and maximums. For example, PG's kid's mom wanted the child support and custody hearing held in NY instead of Florida which is seen as more favorable to moms and awards higher child support amounts. 4-5k is on very low end and the only way that works is if Ross has the primary custody of the kid. If the mother has the primary custody Ross will end up paying a lot more than that in monthly payments.

Anybody know child support laws in Canada. Toronto can attract free agents by letting them knock up strippers for 2K a pop. Less for volume births.
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Post#213 » by PaulieWal » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:04 pm

Centre Court wrote:Terrence is legally obligated to pay $22,353 CDN per month ($268k/yr) based on the Ontario guidelines.

The number is adjusted each year based on Terrence's income and support may be lowered if he is supporting other children.


Sounds about right and that's what I thought it would be, around 15-20k a month. That's a lotta dough to pay but he can afford it lol.
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Post#214 » by m83588333 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:06 pm

A bastard kid to an NBA player makes as much as a dentist and more than a family doctor.
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Post#215 » by C Court » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:14 pm

PaulieWal wrote:
Centre Court wrote:Terrence is legally obligated to pay $22,353 CDN per month ($268k/yr) based on the Ontario guidelines.

The number is adjusted each year based on Terrence's income and support may be lowered if he is supporting other children.


Sounds about right and that's what I thought it would be, around 15-20k a month. That's a lotta dough to pay but he can afford it lol.


If T Ross signs a new contract at $9,000,000 USD in a couple of years those payments jump to over $70,000 per month.

These are all things the Raptors warn their players about. But these guys aren't thinking clearly when they are drunk and a little hottie is hanging onto them.

Depending on the situation, the mother may accept support payments which slightly fall below the mandated guidelines. But she can insist on the full amount. If Ross doesn't pay, she can have his wages garnished. The gravy train ends once the child turns 18.
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Post#216 » by PaulieWal » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:16 pm

Centre Court wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:
Centre Court wrote:Terrence is legally obligated to pay $22,353 CDN per month ($268k/yr) based on the Ontario guidelines.

The number is adjusted each year based on Terrence's income and support may be lowered if he is supporting other children.


Sounds about right and that's what I thought it would be, around 15-20k a month. That's a lotta dough to pay but he can afford it lol.


If T Ross signs a new contract at $9,000,000 USD in a couple of years those payments jump to over $70,000 per month.

These are all things the Raptors warn their players about. But these guys aren't thinking clearly when they are drunk and a little hottie is hanging onto them.


Holy ****!! And people say some here are degrading women by saying that is almost like a hustle. But yes, blame lies on both Ross and the chick, I am not blaming the girl but this is as some say, winning the lottery lol.
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Post#217 » by Illuminati_ » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:58 pm

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olu wrote:
KingSebastian wrote:This explains his horrible playoff performance. Hard for any man to succeed with this kind of news hanging over your head. (do the math if anyone is confused by this post)

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Does make a whole lot of sense now. Down in April, his gf prolly just told him she was pregnant for a month or a lil over. Considering that she is prolly some girl he is dating with no plans of fathering a child, he got shook by the news and affected his play


not quite... his GF he had forever... the one from school and went to cabo with quincy acey dumped him when she found out he knocked up some escort.. dudes just a idiot, same with this team, all filled with dudes who rather chase C grade women than focus on basketball.... why u think i made this thread... was i wrong?

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damn pretty accurate i know about ross/amir/acy when he was here. amir got a groupie pregnant just as he was about to cut her loose. GV been a clown since college its no secret.

ross tho is surprising due to his family and having a long time girl. the money really changes people.
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Post#219 » by HeartBreaking » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:00 pm

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olu wrote:
Does make a whole lot of sense now. Down in April, his gf prolly just told him she was pregnant for a month or a lil over. Considering that she is prolly some girl he is dating with no plans of fathering a child, he got shook by the news and affected his play


not quite... his GF he had forever... the one from school and went to cabo with quincy acey dumped him when she found out he knocked up some escort.. dudes just a idiot, same with this team, all filled with dudes who rather chase C grade women than focus on basketball.... why u think i made this thread... was i wrong?

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damn pretty accurate i know about ross/amir/acy when he was here. amir got a groupie pregnant just as he was about to cut her loose. GV been a clown since college its no secret.

ross tho is surprising due to his family and having a long time girl. the money really changes people.

it doesnt change them, it opens up opportunity that they never had before. It magnifies what they already are.
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Post#220 » by m83588333 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:02 pm

Regardless of relationship status, personal wealth or family values, if you get a chance to knock up a stripper you grab it.
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