OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[yosemiteben]

Gotcha. MKG's slashing ability is so impressive. Honestly Marv impressed me last night with his ability to get to the basket, even though he had some issues getting shots to go down.

I don't know if it's his length or leaping ability, but MKG seems 1000X better at getting to and scoring at the basket then anyone else on our roster. Hendo can catch defenses by surprise when their help defenders are out of position, but MKG has the ability to find seams and get to the basket even when defenses have good position.

[TheKingofSting]

I'm still mad MKG got robbed of that And 1.

[PaulGaston]

Can someone explain to me why MKG doesn't get 30+ minutes a night? The team plays better when he's on the court... he's arguably the best defender on the team. What's with him constantly averaging like 21-24 minutes?

[LofJ]

Can someone explain to me why MKG doesn't get 30+ minutes a night? The team plays better when he's on the court... he's arguably the best defender on the team. What's with him constantly averaging like 21-24 minutes?

Our coach is horrible at managing minutes and lineup rotations. It has cost us several wins, both last year and this year.

[yosemiteben]

Can someone explain to me why MKG doesn't get 30+ minutes a night? The team plays better when he's on the court... he's arguably the best defender on the team. What's with him constantly averaging like 21-24 minutes?

Our coach is horrible at managing minutes and lineup rotations. It's cost us several wins, both last year and this year.

Or you could point out that he started out getting roughly 30 minutes in our first two games, then he got injured, then got 24 minutes his first couple games back, then he got injured again.

In his post game presser after BOS Clifford said due to the injury he was hoping to get 21 - 24 minutes for MKG. I think he fully plans on playing him 30 mpg when he's fully healthy.

[LofJ]

Can someone explain to me why MKG doesn't get 30+ minutes a night? The team plays better when he's on the court... he's arguably the best defender on the team. What's with him constantly averaging like 21-24 minutes?

Our coach is horrible at managing minutes and lineup rotations. It's cost us several wins, both last year and this year.

Or you could point out that he started out getting roughly 30 minutes in our first two games, then he got injured, then got 24 minutes his first couple games back, then he got injured again.

In his post game presser after BOS Clifford said due to the injury he was hoping to get 21 - 24 minutes for MKG. I think he fully plans on playing him 30 mpg when he's fully healthy.

I agree, but Clifford's worst trait as a coach is managing minutes and rotations. He is getting better though, and the results show it (we're finally starting to win games).

[Braggins]

I find it funny that MKG might be the best player on a team that can make the playoffs and the general perception of him around the league is that he is a huge bust. He is going to fly under the radar for at least 3 more years and then suddenly everyone is going to realize he is a beast and act like it has always been obvious.

[ball teacher]

Can someone explain to me why MKG doesn't get 30+ minutes a night? The team plays better when he's on the court... he's arguably the best defender on the team. What's with him constantly averaging like 21-24 minutes?

The coach doesnt see MKG as a offensive player, on the contrary the coach sees the guy who many say is the teams best player as a liability. This is why he will never avg 30 minutes with Cliff cause the coach doesnt want MKG playing late in the 4th quarter. Put MKG on another team that plays him 30 plus minutes and he gets 15 and 8 boards, he makes the team better, brings a great positive attitude and the fans and most coaches will love him. It's a joke that this guy doesnt get the minutes, but what do I know, coach Cliff thinks differently.

[yosemiteben]

The coach doesnt see MKG as a offensive player, on the contrary the coach sees the guy who many say is the teams best player as a liability.

Can anyone here really say that he wasn't an offensive liability last season?

I don't know why you assume that Clifford won't utilize this year's version of MKG.

[ball teacher]

The coach doesnt see MKG as a offensive player, on the contrary the coach sees the guy who many say is the teams best player as a liability.

Can anyone here really say that he wasn't an offensive liability last season?

I don't know why you assume that Clifford won't utilize this year's version of MKG.

I've been calling for MKG to play more and defending him for a long time now, the only rebuttal anyone ever says when they disagree is "we should trust Cliff" or "Cliff knows what he's doing". No offense but I dont wanna keep arguing this point cause I'll just be repeating the same points that I've been stating since last season, and I'm sure the guys are sick of my rants. MKG is no liability, he's never hurt us, he makes us better, and if we played him more we'd see he actually is the kind of guy who makes crucial plays down the stretch for us. We dont see it cause this coach is putting MKG into a box by labelling him as one type of role player, and he stresses what MKG cant do and it's just wrong, both in assessment and in coaching development.

Casual fans and fans of other teams are gonna keep asking why we dont play him more, and we should be honest, the coach doesnt think he's good enough, MKG wasnt playing 25 minutes before the injury, but you can keep thinking Cliff is gonna one day unleash him if you want, I already see what it is. I'm gonna try not to open this argument again cause i'm of the minority opinion, even though guys say how vital he is most still turn around and justify him not playing late and the only justifiable answer given is "I trust Cliff's opinion". I hope your right, I hope Cliff unleashes MKG for 30 plus minutes and lets him close out games, but after seeing them for almost a year and a half I seriously doubt it happens.

[yosemiteben]

MKG wasnt playing 25 minutes before the injury...

Look at our first two games of the year. You are wrong. In preseason he was generally averaging 28 - 30 MPG. He started out the season getting 34 and 28 minutes in his first two games.

Let it play out IMO. In his pressers Clifford makes it very clear that he is aware of the value that MKG brings to this team.

[fatlever]

its hard to play lance (or hendo) and MKG all together at the end of games, unless you go small with MKG at the 4. if MKG wants to keep getting minutes in the 4th, he has to prove himself to be more valuable than lance (or hendo) at the end of games. MKG has had a tendency to shy away from his offense late in games, hence his #shamecorner. we saw a different MKG briefly in the first few games before his two injuries. which MKG will show up over the next few weeks is the question.

[yosemiteben]

which MKG will show up over the next few weeks is the question.

Yep, completely agree.

[JDR720]

aggressive MKG is our best player, passive MKG isn't very good. Its a huge difference, like Jekyll and Hyde.


saw aggressive MKG against the Heat in the playoffs for a game and saw aggressive MKG several times this season and at the start of his rookie year, aggressive MKG is a very good 2-way player and the passive "shamecorner" MKG is just a defender.

[ball teacher]

MKG wasnt playing 25 minutes before the injury...

Look at our first two games of the year. You are wrong. In preseason he was generally averaging 28 - 30 MPG. He started out the season getting 34 and 28 minutes in his first two games.

Let it play out IMO. In his pressers Clifford makes it very clear that he is aware of the value that MKG brings to this team.

Your right, w have to let it play out, and I sure hope I end up wrong, as you can tell this subject frustrated the heck outta me. I just wanna see this guy on the floor with the same long leash we give the others.

[JDR720]

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[KembaWalker]

MKG is our best player. I'm 100% confident of this now. He is 10x more valuable on defense than anyone on our team is on offense. I might be in the minority but I think he could drop an efficient 18ppg right now if Clifford would just unleash him.

[JDR720]

I dont think he could get 18, but i think he could get 15-16 pretty easily.

He averages 8.3 in 25mpg for his career while being the 4th or worse option usually and that was without a reliable jumper, not saying his jumper is very reliable now but its a lot better. He is good at making difficult layups and is fairly explosive also a pretty decent FT shooter (68% for career, but 74.9% his rookie and 75% this season).

Get him 11-12 shots per game on his career 47% shooting and he can average 15+. Maybe he can add a little corner 3pt shot in the offseason can get him to 17-18.

Of course this will probably never happen since he plays with so many ball dominate players and Clifford's offense is horrible.

[Hornet Mania]

I dont think he could get 18, but i think he could get 15-16 pretty easily.

He averages 8.3 in 25mpg for his career while being the 4th or worse option usually and that was without a reliable jumper, not saying his jumper is very reliable now but its a lot better. He is good at making difficult layups and is fairly explosive also a pretty decent FT shooter (68% for career, but 74.9% his rookie and 75% this season).

Get him 11-12 shots per game on his career 47% shooting and he can average 15+. Maybe he can add a little corner 3pt shot in the offseason can get him to 17-18.

Of course this will probably never happen since he plays with so many ball dominate players and Clifford's offense is horrible.

Adding a corner 3 would be exactly what the Spurs would make MKG do if he were on their team.

[Braggins]

Over/Under on how many more games Hendo starts over MKG? I think he showed tonight it should be 0 but literally nothing would surprise from Cliff at this point.