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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#61 » by skbucks1985 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:55 am

I don't see how a finish like that does anything for either guy
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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#62 » by PMFJB » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:56 am

safi wrote:I don't see how a finish like that does anything for either guy

It doesn't do anything. The booking was terrible. It accomplished nothing. Who books this crap?
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Post#63 » by PMFJB » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:05 am

On a good note. Dolph has stolen the show two ppvs in a row. I hope he is in for a big push heading to mania.
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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#64 » by skbucks1985 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:39 am

I don't remember who said this and I don't remember what the context of it was, I think it was Kevin Sullivan but I'm not sure about that. But he said that the sign of a booker that doesn't have a long term idea of what he's doing is that he's constantly booking crap finishes in top matches because it allows him to do a finish that in theory doesn't hurt either guy too much and could prolong the feud. And that's fine in the first match of a feud. But to do it in the HIAC match between Rollins and Ambrose, to do it in tonight's TLC match between Ambrose and Wyatt, matches that based on there build we are led to believe is the blow off match in this feud indicates the above type of booking mentality. If you believe that neither Rollins nor Ambrose can sustain a definitive loss then they're probably not worth being in that spot, same thing with Wyatt and Ambrose. I think these are the right guys and any of them could've sustained that definitive loss. But the fact that they felt compelled to do the crap finish indicates either one of two things: they don't think the loser could've sustained the loss or they weren't confident in there ability to book a guy after a loss.
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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#65 » by studcrackers » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:40 am

Dunthreevy wrote:Anyone else already tired of the Miz/Mizdow gimmick?


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Post#66 » by WRau1 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:32 am

Dunthreevy wrote:Anyone else already tired of the Miz/Mizdow gimmick?


Not yet but Star/Golddust has to go, IMO.
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Post#67 » by TaiLs21 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:45 am

SpReEfOrAlL wrote:Watching AJ lose to a Bella is painful.


Fearless Nikki > all.
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Post#68 » by TheGameChanger » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:53 pm

TaiLs21 wrote:
SpReEfOrAlL wrote:Watching AJ lose to a Bella is painful.


Fearless Nikki > all.


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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#69 » by TheKingofSting » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:24 am

Apparently Dean doesn't know how to unplug a tv.
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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#70 » by Dunthreevy » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:32 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Apparently Dean Dean doesn't know how to unplug a tv.


This is a pretty spot-on assessment of Ambrose's current character...

http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2014/12/ ... -stairs/5/

"Worst: Dean Ambrose Is The Dumbest Person In The Entire World

We have to have a talk about Dean Ambrose.

Since The Shield broke up, Dean has been super, super stupid. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a good wrestler or not “cool” or whatever, his character is just the dumbest thing we’ve seen since Backstage Interviewer Maria. Seriously, pay attention to what he’s doing. He’s bailing on shows to steal hot dog carts and beat people up with mustard. He’s being tricked by smokey ghost holograms. He’s threatening a guy by beating up a dressed-up mannequin with tools and is not only being commanded to do things by sentient under-the-ring televisions, he’s letting them explode in his face. This guy, Dean Ambrose The Character, is stupid as ****.

That’s going to cause an “AWW HATER ARGLE BLARGE” thing amongst people who can’t (or won’t) pay attention, but Jesus Christ, enough with this. The TLC match should be two crazy guys destroying each other, and while there are aspects of that, it’s just two guys with no momentum and basic, pre-whatever’s-happening-on-the-shows popularity just kinda farting around in circles until they hit each other. None of it makes sense. Why did Dean Ambrose hit three elbow drops off the tops of ladders? Why did he find a PLUGGED IN TELEVISION AIRING THE PAY-PER-VIEW FEED under the ring, and why did the announce team think ANY explanation of that would work? “Oh this is for our production guys,” who I guess are working diligently from under the ring. Unless Warrior and Curt Hennig and Hornswoggle are down there, there shouldn’t be a PLUGGED IN, WWE NETWORK READY TELEVISION. If they’d shown Ambrose actually go under the ring and remove the TV from Little People’s Court I might’ve allowed it.

And yeah, Dean tries to hit Bray with the television and can’t, because it’s plugged in. So instead of removing those audio visual cords, dude tries it again. The TV unplugs, causing it to EXPLODE IN ELECTRICAL SPARKS AND SMOKE, which is of course what happens when you unplug a television. Bray Wyatt, master manipulator, wins yet another match by dumb f*cking luck and literally nothing he’s actually done. Did he PLANT the TV there? Did he expect Ambrose to use it from that corner, and to not know how cords work? Is that why the TV playing the PPV suddenly cut over to the stage to show Ambrose the tall ladder, even though there’s no possible explanation for the production team cutting over there and showing it?

I keep trying to do the “I’ll be positive” gimmick, but if you watched this and thought it was cool, holy ****. I wish I could see the world like you do. Instead, I see WWE asking me to cheer for the more ignorant fictional human beings ever created, and a bunch of dumb side-picking instead of actually addressing any of the things that make this so ignorant. I’m embarrassed by this. I’m tired of being embarrassed by wrestling. If you’re going to embarrass me, at least do it in the “guys fake fighting in their underpants” ways we’re used to, where the people who don’t get it just don’t get it. Don’t make the people who don’t get it seem right."
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Re: Tables, Ladders, Chairs... and Stairs 

Post#71 » by TheKingofSting » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:40 am

It currently looks like a cluster ****. I hope WWE has some kind of plan out of this.
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