Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away

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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#61 » by vaff87 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:59 pm

What a strange and sad story. Certainly not the last we'll hear of this from the MSG side of the story.
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Post#62 » by EntropyPR » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:16 pm

frothbrain wrote:Probably a suicide his family is trying to bank on by making a connection to him getting kicked out of a basketball game. Seems to be working based off the replies in this thread.


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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#63 » by Ignitowsky » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:41 pm

The news report sai there were multiple complaints about him an that he was asked more than once by security to tone it down. When they asked him to leave he took of his leg prosthesis in protest. Sounds lie he was being a massive annoyance to those around him and security acted properly I trying to remove him. He apparently was dropped as he was being removed and suffered a MIOR head injury . Hews out clubbing soon after the incident but hs fiancé reported that he had been acting erratically. She never thought to get him any help though. He then went to his father's house and jumped out of a second story window.

I feel badly for the loss of his life but I fail to see how MSG could be held responsible. The i9ncident may very well have triggered some sort of emotional "break" for this guy but he brought everything on himself, including his own death. He sounds like he was the poster buy for being emotionally unstable. Having said that, if a woman can sue McDonalds for scalding her crotch with hot coffee while driving, this guy's family will very likely see some kind of cash, probably in an out of court settlement.

PS I'd be really interested in seeing what the coroner's report says. My first take was that he had an Ambien induced sleep episode. I think it's very likely some kind of drug was involved.
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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#64 » by tonegully757 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:48 pm

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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#65 » by Beffiosa » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:17 pm

Something just isn't connecting with this whole story. Someone who suffered head and back injuries after being dropped by security jumped leaped out of a window while staying with his dad. If he wasn't the same since, what did the medical reports say in regards to TBI? What was his GCS score? Did the doctors tell the dad that someone with "back and head injuries" needs to be supervised at all times?

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Post#66 » by gino_giode » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:16 pm

I don't know if it's true or not, but this man's symptoms are text book of debilitating symptoms that develop well after suffering a traumatic brain injury.

For people that doubt this, I highly suggest reading some scientific articles on the matter because these delayed symptoms are quite common. Add to the fact that the whole event was very disturbing and stressful, as I'm sure he was berated by Knicks fans that didn't know better, which further worsened his condition.

If he doesn't have a history of these symptoms and if the tox screen came back clean, there's a good chance that the MSG event and the lead-up to his fatal fall are partly connected. If there are records that he sought medical consult sometime after MSG for concerns over his symptoms (ie: dizziness, sleep disturbance, headaches, etc), then his family deserves to make bank.

^GCS score is standard for TBI assessment, but not a fully accurate measure. He likely suffered from post-injury neuroinflammation, intracranial bleeding, and diffuse axonal injury (explains his later symptoms) which MAY be detected by MRI that is rare to administer unless his head injury was grossly apparent.
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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#67 » by BK nets BK » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:59 pm

Nuntius wrote:Wow, I'm speechless. Essentially, this man lost his life because some people complained that he was "too loud" and the secutiry dropped him while carrying him out? This **** shouldn't happen. That's really, really sad.

No that's not why he lost his life.
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Post#68 » by BK nets BK » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:04 pm

Ignitowsky wrote:The news report sai there were multiple complaints about him an that he was asked more than once by security to tone it down. When they asked him to leave he took of his leg prosthesis in protest. Sounds lie he was being a massive annoyance to those around him and security acted properly I trying to remove him. He apparently was dropped as he was being removed and suffered a MIOR head injury . Hews out clubbing soon after the incident but hs fiancé reported that he had been acting erratically. She never thought to get him any help though. He then went to his father's house and jumped out of a second story window.

I feel badly for the loss of his life but I fail to see how MSG could be held responsible. The i9ncident may very well have triggered some sort of emotional "break" for this guy but he brought everything on himself, including his own death. He sounds like he was the poster buy for being emotionally unstable. Having said that, if a woman can sue McDonalds for scalding her crotch with hot coffee while driving, this guy's family will very likely see some kind of cash, probably in an out of court settlement.

PS I'd be really interested in seeing what the coroner's report says. My first take was that he had an Ambien induced sleep episode. I think it's very likely some kind of drug was involved.

Cheering for your team is being a massive annoyence? He wasn't mocking people around him or anything. Just rooting for his team. If people around him didn't wanna hear someone cheering then they shouldn't be going to sporting events
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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#69 » by El Turco » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:29 pm

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The_ref wrote:Are people still thinking this happened while he was kicked out of MSG? He jumped out of a window a few days later. Jesus guys.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... ump-window


Yeah, I am confused. The guy had one leg, a severe brain injury, a fractured spinal cord, was not in a hospital, and was able to jump out of a window? Why wasn't he in the hospital with those type of health conditions? Something does not make sense. I can't place blame on anyone as there seems to be way too many unknowns surrounding the ejection, prior medical history, and how the injuries were caused.

Regardless, it always sad when a tragic event like this takes place. My condolences to the family.


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Post#70 » by timglick01 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:04 pm

I think it is more the embarrassment of the whole country watching him being carried out by security on 1 leg than the minor head injury he suffered at the time that caused his suicide.
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Post#71 » by JoseRizal » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:58 pm

Unbelievable... How insensitive and disrespectful...

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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG on Life Support 

Post#72 » by HeartBreaking » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:17 am

Nuntius wrote:Wow, I'm speechless. Essentially, this man lost his life because some people complained that he was "too loud" and the secutiry dropped him while carrying him out? This **** shouldn't happen. That's really, really sad.

Ill show respect to the dead, but we do not know all the facts or if this man had any pre-existing psychological issues. The injuries he suffered are not disclosed, and not everyone commits suicide because they have a physical injury. Until I hear whatr injury he suffered during the incident, Im not going to blame the knicks or the security guards who were doing there job.

To me suicide takes a lot more than an isolated incident, and to blame the knicks organization or the security isn't right.If i missed any other details let me know, but right now i can't believe a man who has the resolve to live with a fake leg would commit only because of this incident.

People call suicide the cowards way out, but in reality it takes a lot for a human to be able to say "this is it" and just kill themselves.
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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG on Life Support 

Post#73 » by Nuntius » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:18 am

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Nuntius wrote:Wow, I'm speechless. Essentially, this man lost his life because some people complained that he was "too loud" and the secutiry dropped him while carrying him out? This **** shouldn't happen. That's really, really sad.

Ill show respect to the dead, but we do not know all the facts or if this man had any pre-existing psychological issues. The injuries he suffered are not disclosed, and not everyone commits suicide because they have a physical injury. Until I hear whatr injury he suffered during the incident, Im not going to blame the knicks or the security guards who were doing there job.

To me suicide takes a lot more than an isolated incident, and to blame the knicks organization or the security isn't right.If i missed any other details let me know, but right now i can't believe a man who has the resolve to live with a fake leg would commit only because of this incident.

People call suicide the cowards way out, but in reality it takes a lot for a human to be able to say "this is it" and just kill themselves.


I'm not blaming the Knicks organization. This situation is too sad in order to use it as an excuse to play anyone.

I'm just trying to say that you don't mess with a person's brain or spinal chord. They are two of the most sensitive body parts that a human being has.
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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#74 » by Mbrahv0528 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:20 am

The_ref wrote:Are people still thinking this happened while he was kicked out of MSG? He jumped out of a window a few days later. Jesus guys.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... ump-window


No..nobody thinks that, apparently it's only YOU would brought it up.

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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#75 » by Danchan » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:51 am

Trader_Joe wrote:http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/12/14/7391711/jeffrey-gamblero-nets-neon-superfan-is-on-life-support-after-leap
Jeffrey Vanchiro, who had gained widespread attention as a colorful and outspoken fan of the Nets, was on a ventilator late Sunday afternoon and was not expected to survive after falling from a second-story window in Flushing, Queens, late on Saturday night.

Vanchiro was staying at his father’s house Saturday night. Vanchiro’s fiancée, Kristi Evans, who was with Vanchiro’s family at New York Hospital Queens on Sunday, said that Vanchiro’s father told her that Vanchiro awoke apparently disoriented and leapt from the building. Evans said that Vanchiro sustained severe brain damage and a fractured spinal cord in the fall, and that his brain had stopped functioning Sunday morning.


Apparently he suffered head and back injuries while be dragged out (and dropped) by MSG security and hasn't been the same since.

Tragic story and I feel awful for his family.


if that's true. good. not that i wish actual DEATH on him, but that will teach people to stop attention grabbing and trouble making. there should be consequences when you disrupt order in society. sick of these alpha male type thinking they are above everything, i bet he's loud and obnoxious in real life.
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Post#76 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:08 am

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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away 

Post#77 » by flash22 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:08 am

Ignitowsky wrote:The news report sai there were multiple complaints about him an that he was asked more than once by security to tone it down. When they asked him to leave he took of his leg prosthesis in protest. Sounds lie he was being a massive annoyance to those around him and security acted properly I trying to remove him. He apparently was dropped as he was being removed and suffered a MIOR head injury . Hews out clubbing soon after the incident but hs fiancé reported that he had been acting erratically. She never thought to get him any help though. He then went to his father's house and jumped out of a second story window.

I feel badly for the loss of his life but I fail to see how MSG could be held responsible. The i9ncident may very well have triggered some sort of emotional "break" for this guy but he brought everything on himself, including his own death. He sounds like he was the poster buy for being emotionally unstable. Having said that, if a woman can sue McDonalds for scalding her crotch with hot coffee while driving, this guy's family will very likely see some kind of cash, probably in an out of court settlement.

PS I'd be really interested in seeing what the coroner's report says. My first take was that he had an Ambien induced sleep episode. I think it's very likely some kind of drug was involved.


Just to clear something up, that women had every right to sue McDonald's. She was handed a cup of coffee that the worker thought too hot to hold by the base, so he held it by the brim, reaching it out to her. When someone hands you a cup by the brim the only place to grip it is by the base, when she gripped it it was of corse to hot to handle so she dropped it all over her crotch area, she basically doesn't have a vagina anymore, can never have kids. I would be suing too.
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Post#78 » by Q C » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:10 am

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Trader_Joe wrote:http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/12/14/7391711/jeffrey-gamblero-nets-neon-superfan-is-on-life-support-after-leap
Jeffrey Vanchiro, who had gained widespread attention as a colorful and outspoken fan of the Nets, was on a ventilator late Sunday afternoon and was not expected to survive after falling from a second-story window in Flushing, Queens, late on Saturday night.

Vanchiro was staying at his father’s house Saturday night. Vanchiro’s fiancée, Kristi Evans, who was with Vanchiro’s family at New York Hospital Queens on Sunday, said that Vanchiro’s father told her that Vanchiro awoke apparently disoriented and leapt from the building. Evans said that Vanchiro sustained severe brain damage and a fractured spinal cord in the fall, and that his brain had stopped functioning Sunday morning.


Apparently he suffered head and back injuries while be dragged out (and dropped) by MSG security and hasn't been the same since.

Tragic story and I feel awful for his family.


if that's true. good. not that i wish actual DEATH on him, but that will teach people to stop attention grabbing and trouble making. there should be consequences when you disrupt order in society. sick of these alpha male type thinking they are above everything, i bet he's loud and obnoxious in real life.


I doubt he was as obnoxious as you are. You are complete moron
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Post#79 » by fast-break » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:30 am

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Ignitowsky wrote:The news report sai there were multiple complaints about him an that he was asked more than once by security to tone it down. When they asked him to leave he took of his leg prosthesis in protest. Sounds lie he was being a massive annoyance to those around him and security acted properly I trying to remove him. He apparently was dropped as he was being removed and suffered a MIOR head injury . Hews out clubbing soon after the incident but hs fiancé reported that he had been acting erratically. She never thought to get him any help though. He then went to his father's house and jumped out of a second story window.

I feel badly for the loss of his life but I fail to see how MSG could be held responsible. The i9ncident may very well have triggered some sort of emotional "break" for this guy but he brought everything on himself, including his own death. He sounds like he was the poster buy for being emotionally unstable. Having said that, if a woman can sue McDonalds for scalding her crotch with hot coffee while driving, this guy's family will very likely see some kind of cash, probably in an out of court settlement.

PS I'd be really interested in seeing what the coroner's report says. My first take was that he had an Ambien induced sleep episode. I think it's very likely some kind of drug was involved.


Just to clear something up, that women had every right to sue McDonald's. She was handed a cup of coffee that the worker thought too hot to hold by the base, so he held it by the brim, reaching it out to her. When someone hands you a cup by the brim the only place to grip it is by the base, when she gripped it it was of corse to hot to handle so she dropped it all over her crotch area, she basically doesn't have a vagina anymore, can never have kids. I would be suing too.

People really should take a look at the injury photos of the Mc Donalds lawsuit plantiff to understand why she won her case. Add in the fact that Mc Donald's had received complaints prior (several hundreds) regarding the temp. of their coffee which were ignored.

As for this guy, suicide is unfortunate and not usually spontaneous although it can have certain "triggers" but... the MSG is not responsible here. Looking at the video they obviously didn't take extra care in carrying him out but I didn't see abusive negligence either.
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Re: Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG on Life Support 

Post#80 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:46 am

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frothbrain wrote:Probably a suicide his family is trying to bank on by making a connection to him getting kicked out of a basketball game. Seems to be working based off the replies in this thread.

So you think the first thoughts his fiancée and immediately family after he fell from the second story of a building was how to profit of his injuries (which will likely lead to his death) rather than thinking about him and how sad it is that he's no longer with them?


It wouldn't surprise me, and I don't just mean they had dollar signs in their eyes. When bad things happen people often get angry and want someone to blame for their misfortune, whether it's justified or not.
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